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Old 01-26-2015, 05:22 PM   #2781
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That sounds about right; I wonder if three would do it or if they'd just use a larger bubble mailer.
My Fright Night came with two other titles. The three discs came shipped in a box & the discs themselves were in a bubble sleeve within the box.
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Old 01-26-2015, 05:22 PM   #2782
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Any average viewer wouldn't have notice these issues. The only reason why you've detected it, is because that's what you were specifically looking for, after when somebody else did. Otherwise you wouldn't have never noticed it either. The old cliche always says: If you look for trouble, you will find it!
The only issue I noticed that was mentioned here upon my previous night's viewing was the fog scene with Evil Ed. I had thought that scene was just grainier due to it being shot at night and possibly on a lesser quality stock. When I went back to that scene this morning, I could see what all the hub-bub was about, you could clearly tell it wasn't grain upon closer inspection.

But your right, the casual viewer (such as myself) who has yet to train himself on every aspect of film dissection, from encoding issues, to haloing from overzealous use of Edge Enhancement will probably miss it.
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Old 01-26-2015, 06:36 PM   #2783
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But you are right, the casual viewer (such as myself) who has yet to train himself on every aspect of film dissection, from encoding issues, to haloing from overzealous use of Edge Enhancement will probably miss it.
...and actually maybe even enjoy the movie?

I swear I read all these constant posts in multiple threads nitpicking every last detail of hundreds of different releases and sometimes wonder if those who post them even enjoy watching movies at all.

I prefer to sit down and view a film in hopes of enjoying the overall experience, to get involved in the story...not to keep a sharp lookout across the entire scene in case (in hope?) I find a "flaw". I hope that never changes.
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Old 01-26-2015, 06:49 PM   #2784
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...and actually maybe even enjoy the movie?

I swear I read all these constant posts in multiple threads nitpicking every last detail of hundreds of different releases and sometimes wonder if those who post them even enjoy watching movies at all.

I prefer to sit down and view a film in hopes of enjoying the overall experience, to get involved in the story...not to keep a sharp lookout across the entire scene in case (in hope?) I find a "flaw". I hope that never changes.
I always relate to the Blu-ray reviews from DVD Savant. He always writes thorough discussions of the movie content, but he often gives "Excellent" or "Very Good" video and audio quality ratings to movies that might receive harsher ratings on other review sites.

I view my movies on a smaller television screen than most people here probably do, and the technical presentations of my favorite movies never distract me from enjoying the movie unless the problem is extraordinarily glaring (the noise reduction on my French Blu-ray of Le Samouraï is one unfortunate example). Most of the time, though, I simply concentrate on the movies themselves, and I watch them with a blissful "This looks way better than my old DVD or VHS." frame of mind. This may change when I move to a bigger place at some point, and inevitably buy a bigger system, but I expect that I will be watching discs with the same attitude.

I loved watching Fright Night last night, and none of the above-mentioned problems took my mind out of the movie, because I did not even notice them. I did notice what looked like an odd color change on Peter Vincent's face when Evil Ed rang at his door later in the film, but that may have simply been the way that his expression changed.

That said, I am glad that there are reviewers out there who do harp on the technical aspects of a Blu-ray presentation, because they can help to ensure that we all ultimately get the best treatments of well-loved films. The corrected Blu-ray of The Lady from Shanghai is one such example.
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Old 01-26-2015, 06:55 PM   #2785
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...and actually maybe even enjoy the movie?

I swear I read all these constant posts in multiple threads nitpicking every last detail of hundreds of different releases and sometimes wonder if those who post them even enjoy watching movies at all.

I prefer to sit down and view a film in hopes of enjoying the overall experience, to get involved in the story...not to keep a sharp lookout across the entire scene in case (in hope?) I find a "flaw". I hope that never changes.
I haven't seen anyone in this thread making the issues mentioned so far as big of a deal as your reaction suggests. In this case, there are multiple releases of the same film available and some people might be interested in which one is the better of the three. It's not a big deal. It can be "nitpicked" without anyone saying that any one version is "unwatchable".
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Old 01-26-2015, 07:29 PM   #2786
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So I just got off the phone with screen archives and they claim that they're trying to work with Twilight time now to get extra cover art and/or clear cases as well as replacement discs but they won't know for a day or two otherwise they won't have any type of replacement for these.
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Old 01-26-2015, 08:14 PM   #2787
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Talking Fright Night 30th Anniversary Edition

I am no longer "pending".......I have a "tracking number"..........hopefully I have this for Friday!
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Old 01-26-2015, 09:14 PM   #2788
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I watched the new BD of this and was quite annoyed to find a few scenes with distracting compression problems. I watched this projected on a 106 inch screen and found the following scenes stood out,

Chapter 6 - 23.17 the side pan on Sarandon's legs sitting in the chair.
26.13 Charlie coming down the stairs

Chapter 10 - 43.26 the side pan on the clocks up to the point Sarandon takes the phone.

Chapter 13 - Evil Ed walking in the fog.

I checked all the same scenes in the original Twilight Time release and the compression is rock solid without the artifacts in those scenes on the new release.
I doubt this would be much of an issue for those watching on smaller screens, but the compression in these scenes on the new disc I found very annoying.
If anyone else here owns both releases and watches on a 100+ inch screen compare them with the scenes I mentioned and report back to me.

I was planning to ditch the original Twilight release, but no chance of that now.
I was paying close attention during your first two examples and didn't notice anything. Even if I had, it's certainly not a big deal.
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Old 01-26-2015, 09:27 PM   #2789
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I can see them if I pause on my 60 inch.

Now all three versions have aspects to claim "best" version. Maybe it was planned that way!

1). Original release because it does not have the compression issues of the 30th Anniversary release or the lossy audio of the Sony release...but lacks sharper PQ of Sony and 30th Anniversary.

2). Sony release because it has slightly sharper PQ (shin pores and wrinkles, clothing and wall paper patterns) without the compression...but lacks HD audio.

3). 30th Anniversary release because it retains Sony's sharper PQ while adding a small amount more shadow detail in darker scenes, and extra features...but has compression in some scenes.
I may have to do a project soon and take the best PQ from one disc and the best AQ from another disc and combine them to make the ULTIMATE FRIGHT NIGHT blu-ray!!
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Old 01-26-2015, 09:29 PM   #2790
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I may have to do a project soon and take the best PQ from one disc and the best AQ from another disc and combine them to make the ULTIMATE FRIGHT NIGHT blu-ray!!
Someone will find something wrong with your ultimate version.
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Old 01-26-2015, 10:03 PM   #2791
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I may have to do a project soon and take the best PQ from one disc and the best AQ from another disc and combine them to make the ULTIMATE FRIGHT NIGHT blu-ray!!
That would be tough, as I don't think any one transfer can be considered the "best."
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Old 01-26-2015, 10:04 PM   #2792
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So, I finally got around to watching this. I loved it as a kid, and as a young adult (by far one of my favorites), and I was thoroughly excited to see it again for the first time in around ten years.

That being said, I was totally disappointed. This film did NOT hold up for me.

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Gotcha! I loved it. And I'm glad it's now mine to rewatch whenever I want.
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Old 01-26-2015, 10:10 PM   #2793
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I was not looking for these issues, I am saying that, at 100+ inches these scenes made themselves known. The scene with the clocks is the biggest offender, the entire scene craps itself under the bad compression. The bigger the screen, the more pronounced these will appear and it certainly takes me out of the film, especially when I remember watching the original release being without these issues.

If one cares first and foremost about the film itself in the best quality than pursuing the original release is the only road I recommend, or keep both releases for those that have them and want the extras.
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Old 01-26-2015, 10:14 PM   #2794
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...and actually maybe even enjoy the movie?

I swear I read all these constant posts in multiple threads nitpicking every last detail of hundreds of different releases and sometimes wonder if those who post them even enjoy watching movies at all.

I prefer to sit down and view a film in hopes of enjoying the overall experience, to get involved in the story...not to keep a sharp lookout across the entire scene in case (in hope?) I find a "flaw". I hope that never changes.
For those users on here that are asked to give honest and complete reviews posted here, including all the flaws, I would imagine it becomes impossible to NOT notice the flaws once you recognize them. I find myself now able to notice compression issues for what they actually are, and not dismiss them as noise or grain.

Kinda like the elephant in the room that some people can be blissfully unaware of, while others are drawn to immediately.

I still don't always recognize the halos everyone claims to see when extreme edge enhancement is used, but then again I don't go actively looking for flaws.

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Old 01-26-2015, 10:20 PM   #2795
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I was not looking for these issues, I am saying that, at 100+ inches these scenes made themselves known. The scene with the clocks is the biggest offender, the entire scene craps itself under the bad compression. The bigger the screen, the more pronounced these will appear and it certainly takes me out of the film, especially when I remember watching the original release being without these issues.

If one cares first and foremost about the film itself in the best quality than pursuing the original release is the only road I recommend, or keep both releases for those that have them and want the extras.
Watching at that size of a screen, unless EVERYTHING is perfect, your going to notice flaws. Your viewing screen is nearly twice mine on our living room set, which is a paltry 55 inches I know, but as you said a screen that size will exacerbate any inherent issues to the point that they cannot be ignored.
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Old 01-26-2015, 10:30 PM   #2796
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Is there a consensus on which audio track is best between the 5.1 and 2.0, and why?
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Old 01-26-2015, 10:32 PM   #2797
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If one cares first and foremost about the film itself in the best quality than pursuing the original release is the only road I recommend, or keep both releases for those that have them and want the extras.
Thing is, apart from those isolated instances, the compression is better throughout the bulk of the new transfer. So it's hard to say that the original has across-the-board a better transfer. It's better for however many second those compression issues last. The rest of the time, the new transfer is better.
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So, I finally got around to watching this. I loved it as a kid, and as a young adult (by far one of my favorites), and I was thoroughly excited to see it again for the first time in around ten years.

That being said, I was totally disappointed. This film did NOT hold up for me.

[Show spoiler]

Gotcha! I loved it. And I'm glad it's now mine to rewatch whenever I want.
[Show spoiler]I'm glad you're enjoying the film. It's an awesome release. Personally, the minute I saw the spoiler tag, your claim of disappointment seemed a bit dubious to me.
I don't know how anyone who watched this back in the '80s could ever grow out of it. It's just too well made and enjoyable on so many levels,
[Show spoiler]and I agree it holds up exceptionally well.
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Old 01-26-2015, 10:57 PM   #2799
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Thing is, apart from those isolated instances, the compression is better throughout the bulk of the new transfer. So it's hard to say that the original has across-the-board a better transfer. It's better for however many second those compression issues last. The rest of the time, the new transfer is better.
I agree that is what frustrates me about this release, with it being better though, the compression issues just stand out even more and I find that in the end more unacceptable than a transfer that is slightly less defined and free of these compression issues. I will point out there are more scenes than the ones I posted, they are just the more obvious ones. I am sure most will not notice on 50-60 inch screens, which would explain why I saw no mention of this, but there will be others that will, especially those familiar
with the previous release.

Some aren't as bothered as I am and that is fine, as someone who has both releases, I thought it was worth mentioning to those that would want to know. We are all big movie lovers and it is part of this home theater hobby to talk about and find the best releases of our favorite films.

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My J Geils/Stones show was the LA Coliseum show that also included George Thurogood and a pre-Purple Rain era Prince opening (who got bombarded with shoes and trash during his short set). This is my old jersey from that gig:

I don't want to go on about the stones tour but that is the same line up I saw in S.Cal. I had never heard of Prince. I cant believe you still have the shirt I do have a stones T from the Bridges to Babylon tour. Hats off to you saving stuff for that many years.
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