4K Movies Releases

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by tob

Biggest win of the season so far penton but Villa were really poor and have been all season but we got spurs away saturday so hope we can continue our good form.

Always wondered exactly how far away (in miles or km) those two stadiums are and if the hearty types can walk it.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Although, not elucidated per se on the official schedule, folks are saying that a certain manufacturer will be showing a wide color gamut (capable of the 2020 color space) at the Tech retreat in the desert next week, which, in years past has

“gathered a veritable who’s who in engineering, technology creativity, and strategic business together for a structured yet informal meeting of the minds, where top industry leaders engaged in all aspects of production, distribution, post production, film, television, web and related endeavors, gather in an environment conducive to the exchange of knowledge and information”.

*As far as ‘environment’, again, as in years past, the hotel headquarters for the event is canine friendly , so, any planned attendees reading, bring along your sidekick(s) …. http://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/...riders-n291546

I guess I should say that the quote " above comes from here (CC, last year) - https://www.creativecow.net/intersti...ry/874052&id=0

But the inside info does not.

[tob]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Always wondered exactly how far away (in miles or km) those two stadiums are and if the hearty types can walk it.

I had a look there penton and its 120 miles from London to Birmingham.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by tob

I had a look there penton and its 120 miles from London to Birmingham.

No, I mean for the derby (against Spurs).

[tob]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

No, I mean for the derby (against Spurs).

lol lol sorry.

[tob]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

No, I mean for the derby (against Spurs).

http://www.sportmapworld.com/distanc...enham-hotspur/

[Kris Deering]

Just finished John Wick on Blu-ray. One of the guilty pleasures of last year, what a ride. I noticed they shot this with the Arri but did a 4K DI, similar to Skyfall. Video looks great on Blu-ray despite Lionsgate, no banding noticed (big sigh of relief there!!!). Wasn't quite as gorgeous as Lucy on Blu-ray but still a great looking transfer overall and still a blast!

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by tob

http://www.sportmapworld.com/distanc...enham-hotspur/

Damn, the crow doesn’t get there much straighter than a human walking/driving. Next natural question would be, would it be safe walking there wearing one’s colors?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Kris Deering

Just finished John Wick on Blu-ray. One of the guilty pleasures of last year, what a ride. I noticed they shot this with the Arri but did a 4K DI, similar to Skyfall. Video looks great on Blu-ray despite Lionsgate, no banding noticed (big sigh of relief there!!!). Wasn't quite as gorgeous as Lucy on Blu-ray but still a great looking transfer overall and still a blast!

Great to hear you liked it.

The Alexa does quite an admirable job (which is probably an understatement) for not having the rez of the likes of the Sony55/65, Red Epic and Dragon. I eagerly await seeing a feature presentation with its BIG (6K) brother, as things apparently looked good to the crowd in Poland and you have to admit, this workshop took balls …. http://www.afcinema.com/First-public...uel_en&lang=en

[Kris Deering]

Definitely. Can't wait for something shot with the new one. Hopefully sooner than later.

[Penton-Man]

The 6K sensor cameras are great to create a 5K 2.40:1 frame line out of the 6K that is captured as it gives cinematographers a lot of padding outside the frame for stabilization and any repo which is found necessary.

Currently, or in the foreseeable future, I really don’t see DPs pushing for > 4K exhibition resolutions. They are now, when questioned by manufacturers, asking for things like better ergonomics and wireless interface between all the on set devices.

So not to appear compartmentalized solely to digital acquisition with the past discussion and give our celluloid friends a little something to cheer about today…. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/beh...-extend-770300

[Penton-Man]

Rest assured Sony TV aficionados…there are currently no plans to exit the TV business, although, due to its volatile profitability, the top brass in Tokyo is always seeking an alternative to have a joint venture with other companies.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

So not to appear compartmentalized...

And ramicio, you’ve got me a feeling a little sorry for your temporal resolution evangelism on the past pages, so I plan to try to check out a certain company’s interactive frame blending of 120fps arriraw capture with a 360 degree shutter angle next week in the dez.

[singhcr]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

So not to appear compartmentalized solely to digital acquisition with the past discussion and give our celluloid friends a little something to cheer about today…. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/beh...-extend-770300

Yay!

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

...next week in the dez.

Where Carolyn G. (of THR) will be moderating a panel concerning whether or not HDR, HFR, brighter, higher pixel counts, immersive sound, wider color gamma will change storytelling . A panel which includes, amongst other distinguished participants, the past President of American Society of Cinematographers (elected 3 terms )….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOnT...ature=youtu.be

[Richard Paul]

Movielabs changed what was initially a complaint about the NHK HDR system into a proposal. It is a bit hard to tell if the proposal is serious since it implies that other HDR systems aren't needed and than asks for more information. It could be an attempt to clarify the exact brightness range of other HDR systems though I do wonder if it is just a way to point out that other HDR systems won't go up to 10,000 nits.

[Penton-Man]

Before I tie up some loose ends and head on out with my wife to the annual desert retreat to become ‘illuminated’ , I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again -
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...l#post10258247

Not to mention you having no access to such things as this recently formed SG - https://kws.smpte.org/kws/public/pro...project_id=241 of which, a few pages back, I revealed some tidbits from the last meeting in December….Richard, you really do quite well with regards to cutting edge analysis.

Not sure though why you waste your time *debating* people in subgroups of other outside forums (to which I’ve been alerted) who, without blinking an eye, make ridiculously erroneous assertions like “48 nits is a Dolby Vision recommendation” or, I’d think even if their life depended upon it probably couldn’t name more than one person on the DC28 Color ad hoc group …..which is kind of basic background knowledge for those in the field now discussing such current D-Cinema endeavors such as the move to SMPTE DCPs, or esoteric housekeeping matters like the problem (related to authoring) which all current D-Cinema systems had in understanding one musical note from Boyhood, etc.

I think your talents are being wasted ...unless, you simply enjoy the debate process.

[Richard Paul]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Before I tie up some loose ends and head on out with my wife to the annual desert retreat to become ‘illuminated’ , I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again -
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...l#post10258247

Not to mention you having no access to such things as this recently formed SG - https://kws.smpte.org/kws/public/pro...project_id=241 of which, a few pages back, I revealed some tidbits from the last meeting in December….Richard, you really do quite well with regards to cutting edge analysis.

Thanks, and I try to keep informed on video developments.

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Not sure though why you waste your time *debating* people in subgroups of other outside forums (to which I’ve been alerted) who, without blinking an eye, make ridiculously erroneous assertions like “48 nits is a Dolby Vision recommendation” or, I’d think even if their life depended upon it probably couldn’t name more than one person on the DC28 Color ad hoc group …..which is kind of basic background knowledge for those in the field now discussing such current D-Cinema endeavors such as the move to SMPTE DCPs, or esoteric housekeeping matters like the problem (related to authoring) which all current D-Cinema systems had in understanding one musical note from Boyhood, etc.

I think your talents are being wasted ...unless, you simply enjoy the debate process.

While it may be swimming against the tide for some reason I just couldn't help but jump into that thread.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Richard Paul

Thanks, and I try to keep informed on video developments.

Could always be worse ….
http://xkcd.com/927/

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Richard Paul

While it may be swimming against the tide for some reason I just couldn't help but jump into that thread.

Let me know when someone shows up who serves on SMPTE 21DC or has the on-going tech committee meeting notes.

FYI, while swimming, there have been early stage formal discussions about next-gen D-Cinema (outside of, for instance, SMPTE 21DC) among consultants (some of whom were involved in formulating the original DCI spec back in-the-day) now tasked by the motion picture industry to establish knowledgeable discussion about [along with procuring a reference projector(s) of] how best to produce an HDR ‘DCP’, or more accurately, an HDR Digital Cinema Distribution Master <- of which one needs in the first place to make a DCI ‘DCP’. To that end, the two primary considerations involve wide color gamut and dynamic range.

In terms of color, the digital cinema distribution master uses XYZ encoding which easily covers the entire range of 2020, so, no big problemo there. However, the real challenge is with dynamic range and the limiting nature of the current D-Cinema distribution master in terms of luminance(12-bit samples with gamma 2.6). So, with an increase in brightness likely causing a need for more resolution in color gamut, if…
1. the D-Cinema system design stays with 12bits, we’ll require a new EOTF (like Dolby PQ), or, on the other hand, if

2. system interfaces can increase to 16-bits per component, there should be plenty of room to add everything.

Then, also another approach is ACES style with ODT…meaning, for example, as part of the ACES project at the Academy, there has been success with HDR re-rendering of the image output based upon target output device transforms. Ergo, it might well be necessary/valuable to consider how re-rendering can also be used in Exhibition in order to allow single inventory DCPs.

Discussions continue.....but, definitely not during HPA retreat week.