Game of Thrones: The Complete Fourth Season (BD with Digital Copy)

[Gusto-Guus]

Originally Posted by tj5921

S1 - Stark
S2 - Lannister
S3 - Targaryen
S4 - ?

Should my ? be Tyrell or Martell?

I like house Martell much more but not sure they will be available next season. Anyone else have the same set up for the first three? Which slip will you choose for S4?

Martell. Like Olenna says, a flower brings fear to no one.

[dcowboy7]

Originally Posted by surfdude12

the only question that matters right now (even more than whether I have enough to eat tonight):

Should I:
(a) buy it at $35 and get $5 refund if it drops to $30 in 30 day price match window, or
(b) wait until it drops to $30?

(a)

[faizoff]

Originally Posted by surfdude12

the only question that matters right now (even more than whether I have enough to eat tonight):

Should I:
(a) buy it at $35 and get $5 refund if it drops to $30 in 30 day price match window, or
(b) wait until it drops to $30?

So far it seems all signs point to the price not dropping to $30 at least not during the opening weeks.

[myptosis1]

Originally Posted by tj5921

I like house Martell much more but not sure they will be available next season.

Best Buy will have Martell next year, it would be dumb on their part if they don't. A lot of people loved Oberyn, I'm pretty sure they're going to love his family this upcoming season. I would worry about Tyrell not coming back just like Greyjoy might not come back as well.

Prediction next year: Get rid of The three main houses
Martell
Stannis sigil
Bolton
Note: maybe online exclusives

[redphoenix]

Originally Posted by tj5921

S1 - Stark
S2 - Lannister
S3 - Targaryen
S4 - ?

Should my ? be Tyrell or Martell?

I like house Martell much more but not sure they will be available next season. Anyone else have the same set up for the first three? Which slip will you choose for S4?

I have the same as you for S1-S3. I went with Tyrell this time. Best Buy teased us with it last season and then didn't go through with it. I have a feeling if I don't get it this season, it might not be offered again. I will get Martell next season, I think they will have an even larger role to play and I try to pick my sigils based on who dominated the season. Though that seems to be Lannister every season.

[danforth44]

Originally Posted by myptosis1

I can't wait to listen to Sigur Ros at the end of that episode.

I haven't seen it yet, but I was so surprised and ecstatic when they announced that what is probably my favorite band was going to be in an episode of what is probably my favorite show. Absolutely can't wait.

[ZoetMB]

Originally Posted by Snicket

I lost all of my growing respect and understanding for Jamie with that rape scene, watching it, to me it was clearly a rape. There was no consent at all. As was intended by the writters.

The fact some of you are playing rape apologetics is pretty f*****g disgusting.

I think you have to interpret the scene (and all other kinds of disgusting happenings in the story) within the context of the time and place the story is taking place, even if it's a fantasy.

Let's not forget that in most places in the world, women were considered property and there were few repercussions for rape. In fact, women had very few rights until the early 20th century. Incest and rape were quite common in many societies. Even today, every once in a while you hear some judge rule that there can't be rape between a husband and wife.

You can't expect the characters in such a story to act like "sensitive new age guys".

Found this on the web and this concerns activity in the U.S. only 100 to 200 years ago:

Although rarely mentioned, there is mounting evidence that child sexual abuse occurred frequently throughout the last two centuries. Laws about statutory rape and incest reflect awareness that child sexual abuse existed, but their erratic enforcement suggests ambiguity about sexual abuse and society's role in child protection. Between the 1880s and 1900, for example, most states increased the AGE OF CONSENT from ten to at least sixteen, reflecting a common concern of the social purity movement that girls were vulnerable to sexual harm. Although almost every state outlawed incest, sexual acts between parent and child outside of intercourse fell under less stringent legal statutes.

Now take that back 500 years or so and imagine how badly humans behaved back then. Virtually everyone on this show has murdered numerous people and not just within the confines of military action. How come there's no outrage over that?

I have no doubt that 500 years from now, if we haven't destroyed life on this planet first, the humans of that time will look back on us as being just as cruel and deranged as we see some of the characters in "Game of Thrones".

[jscoggins]

Originally Posted by ZoetMB

I think you have to interpret the scene (and all other kinds of disgusting happenings in the story) within the context of the time and place the story is taking place, even if it's a fantasy.

Let's not forget that in most places in the world, women were considered property and there were few repercussions for rape. In fact, women had very few rights until the early 20th century. Incest and rape were quite common in many societies. Even today, every once in a while you hear some judge rule that there can't be rape between a husband and wife.

You can't expect the characters in such a story to act like "sensitive new age guys".

Found this on the web and this concerns activity in the U.S. only 100 to 200 years ago:


Now take that back 500 years or so and imagine how badly humans behaved back then. Virtually everyone on this show has murdered numerous people and not just within the confines of military action. How come there's no outrage over that?

I have no doubt that 500 years from now, if we haven't destroyed life on this planet first, the humans of that time will look back on us as being just as cruel and deranged as we see some of the characters in "Game of Thrones".

You write that as if things were absolute. Yet, clearly, there are men who respect women in the show, and Jamie had prevented Brienne from being raped. So, what he did to Cersei is terrible, no matter the time period of social development.

[croooow]

Originally Posted by Gusto-Guus

It's more for Dany and "I have a rightful claim" bullshit. Claim my ass, her only claim is those Dragons and without them, she's just another nuisance to the story.

I think her claim stems from the fact that her father was king, as was his and so on for almost three centuries.

Stannis' claim is similar but only go back 15 years.

How is Dany a nuisance? Would it be better if the house that ruled for all that time just died out before our story begins? Guess that means no dragons.

[Keyser Soze.]

Early shipping? Well color me shocked.

[croooow]

Originally Posted by tj5921

S1 - Stark
S2 - Lannister
S3 - Targaryen
S4 - ?

Should my ? be Tyrell or Martell?

I like house Martell much more but not sure they will be available next season. Anyone else have the same set up for the first three? Which slip will you choose for S4?

I have those same ones and will be going with Martell. I bet we will see them both next year (silly Best Buy)

S1 - Stark
S2 - Lannister
S3 - Targaryen
S4 - Martell

[explorer6]

I lost all of my growing respect and understanding for Jamie with that rape scene, watching it, to me it was clearly a rape. There was no consent at all. As was intended by the writters.

The fact some of you are playing rape apologetics is pretty f*****g disgusting.

[Show spoiler]You didn't lose respect when he was banging his sister and tried to kill a little boy by pushing him out the window? It took you until the rape scene to lose respect and understanding for him?

Let's be honest, the guys a douche jerk of the highest order... i'm not a big fan of his, through the Brienne story arc i simply liked him more than i once did which doesn't mean i'm inviting him over to have tea any time soon.

Same with the Hound, he gets my respect for saving the beautiful and innocent Lady Sansa who if she was raped by those savages it would've been one of the hardest scenes to watch... and protected Arya somewhat and that earns some likable points but the guy was still a nasty baddie with little other redeeming qualities. Not going to crying for either of them meeting their fate.

[Jar Jar Stinks]

People, use the effing spoiler tag if you're revealing ANY plot points. Be respectful of those who haven't watched this yet.

[soarinsteven]

Originally Posted by explorer6

[Show spoiler]You didn't lose respect when he was banging his sister and tried to kill a little boy by pushing him out the window? It took you until the rape scene to lose respect and understanding for him?

Let's be honest, the guys a douche jerk of the highest order... i'm not a big fan of his, through the Brienne story arc i simply liked him more than i once did which doesn't mean i'm inviting him over to have tea any time soon.

Same with the Hound, he gets my respect for saving the beautiful and innocent Lady Sansa who if she was raped by those savages it would've been one of the hardest scenes to watch... and protected Arya somewhat and that earns some likable points but the guy was still a nasty baddie with little other redeeming qualities. Not going to crying for either of them meeting their fate.

[Show spoiler]The redemptive arc of Jaime in season 3 was so well done, so moving, and one of the best things the show has done. Nikolaj Coster-Waldau and Gwendoline Christie were brilliant. Benioff and Weiss have done a great job with gender representation, and the writing and direction of the series always so strong, precise, and smart which makes THAT scene with Jaime and Cersei so glaring a misstep. It's a tired trope in tv to use rape as a device. Scandal did this also last season. Here to either show Jaime devolving into his ugly and selfish behavior or perhaps to gain sympathy for the cold, ruthless Cersei wanting a position of power so much yet demeaned or undermined again. The fact that the rape is not addressed by either party later in the episode or season illustrates the reckless use of it. If you're not offended by it fine, but it's easy to see why so many were, or at least heartbroken by it. Maybe it's perverse, but I sort of like or understand the Jaime and Cersei relationship. Their love for each other humanizes them a little amid all the violence, cruelty, and power playing.

[Ray Jackson]

I hope there's a lot of dirty sex in season 5.

...season 4 didn't have enough dirty sex in my opinion.

[Jr7936]

same here and ups, will be coming on wed it looks like

[QUOTE=Keyser Soze.;10406772]Early shipping? Well color me shocked.

[Gusto-Guus]

Originally Posted by croooow

I think her claim stems from the fact that her father was king, as was his and so on for almost three centuries.

Stannis' claim is similar but only go back 15 years.

How is Dany a nuisance? Would it be better if the house that ruled for all that time just died out before our story begins? Guess that means no dragons.

The claims are all bullshit. Targaryens conquered westeros with the dragons. That's it. Whoever has the best strategy for conquering the land wins. Look at what Cersei did with Roberts letter at the end of season 1. Hell, everyone know Tywin was the real king of Westeros and for all we know, was pulling the strings in getting the mad king usurped.

As for Dany, "I will fight injustice with justice". Do I really need to say more? Her whole character is kind of cartoony compared to everyone else. Also, its the story the keeps me in, not the dragons. Wouldn't make a difference if there were no dragons or Danys story because she has yet to play a role and judging from GRRMs slowness, we may never see it. Hell, some speculate she'll give up westeros because of how much work her current land is. I doubt that though.

[K1NG J0RDAN]

Originally Posted by Ray Jackson

I hope there's a lot of dirty sex in season 5.

...season 4 didn't have enough dirty sex in my opinion.

[Edword]

Originally Posted by Keyser Soze.

Early shipping? Well color me shocked.

[Show spoiler]

My order shipped as well today. Hoping I'll get it before Monday. I usually get things fairly quickly from Best Buy even with standard shipping.

[iaragorn1]

What is on the Bonus Disk at Best Buy? It seems that it's likely a special effects feature since internationally there are 3 behind the scenes features and only 2 of them have been announced with Target and Walmart each getting one.