The dark side of the PS2 (and other devices)

[quexos]

Originally Posted by Mikeblu

intersting how they point out that Sony does it, not that Nokia or Samsung do exactly the same thing

That's why I added in the title "and other devices" cause I seriously doubt others have clean hands. So goes the world I guess but it's worth mentioning.

[Mikeblu]

Originally Posted by quexos

That's why I added in the title "and other devices" cause I seriously doubt others have clean hands. So goes the world I guess but it's worth mentioning.

I accualy read this same article a while back where someone looked into it and the overall amount and Dell and Apple PCs is 12x the amount of coltan the PS2s required

[Psx0005]

Imagine the number of kittens that died for every Dreamcast owner that played a Japanese hentai game

[Mikeblu]

Originally Posted by Psx0005

Imagine the number of kittens that died for every Dreamcast owner that played a Japanese hentai game

huh?

[Psx0005]

Originally Posted by Mikeblu

huh?

Just lightening the mood, story was too grim this early in the morning for me

[Mikeblu]

Originally Posted by Psx0005

Just lightening the mood, story was too grim this early in the morning for me

i like kittens!

[SoCalTiger]

Originally Posted by Psx0005

Imagine the number of kittens that died for every Dreamcast owner that played a Japanese hentai game

STUPID HENTAI!

[quexos]

Originally Posted by Mikeblu

I accualy read this same article a while back where someone looked into it and the overall amount and Dell and Apple PCs is 12x the amount of coltan the PS2s required

I guess we have to resign ourselves that we live in a world where people in third world countries have their rights somehow abused so that we can fill in our SUV's with gas, where kids are paid a dollar a day working in third world shoe factories so that we can enjoy our confortable sport shoes while walking in our streets, a world where our weapon factories have employment thanks to the sales to countries where innocents will be killed by those, a world where we pollute and destroy the planet so that we can have all the confort that "civilized" society provides (gas, air conditioning, electricity ...) a world where we over eat at fast foods while others starve and so on ...
So yeah why would playing games be the only clean and harmless part of our daily lives ?

I'm already feeling better to know that the Game Industry has it's full place in this big family that we call humanity

[Mikeblu]

Originally Posted by quexos

I guess we have to resign ourselves that we live in a world where people in third world countries have their rights somehow abused so that we can fill in our SUV's with gas, where kids are paid a dollar a day working in third world shoe factories so that we can enjoy our confortable sport shoes while waking in our streets, a world where our weapon factories have employment thanks to the sales to countries where innocents will be killed by those, a world where we pollute and destroy the planet so that we can have all the confort that "civilized" society provides (gas, air conditioning, electricity ...) a world where we over eat at fast foods while others starve and so on ...
So yeah why would playing games be the only clean and harmless part of our daily lives ?

I'm already feeling better to know that the Game Industry has it's full place in this big family that we call humanity

god i could do with air conditioning, first time weve had a heat wave sice 2005. (dont you just love britain, cold wet and prices are high)

Generally its all for profit more than comfort. You could do everything that you've described in comfort without harming anything/one but companys and indeed us take the cheaper route

[reiella]

Originally Posted by Mikeblu

god i could do with air conditioning, first time weve had a heat wave sice 2005. (dont you just love britain, cold wet and prices are high)

Generally its all for profit more than comfort. You could do everything that you've described in comfort without harming anything/one but companys and indeed us take the cheaper route

Heh. Here's a funny tidbit. Typially, the environmental impact from using AC is less than using Heaters.

Just happens alot of people tend to think of AC as more a luxury than heaters. Mostly as those folks are coming from up north [where it is true for them, just not necessarily for folks down in Arizona].

[quexos]

What about the PS3 ? does it use Coltan too ? I suppose if it did they would have mentioned it but I don't know for sure

[ADRiiAN`]

I'm surprised you guys didn't know this?

Have you ever watched 'Sum 41: Rocked in the congo'?

Well, while in Congo, they interview a man and he talks about coltan and how they mine and fight for it because it sells so well at such a high cost.

Coltan is used in probably ALL electronics, if not, in the high 90%.

Without Coltan, the electronic industry will be a huge crisis, like a huge recession for the electronic industry.

[GORT]

Originally Posted by quexos

I guess we have to resign ourselves that we live in a world where people in third world countries have their rights somehow abused so that we can fill in our SUV's with gas, where kids are paid a dollar a day working in third world shoe factories so that we can enjoy our confortable sport shoes while walking in our streets, a world where our weapon factories have employment thanks to the sales to countries where innocents will be killed by those, a world where we pollute and destroy the planet so that we can have all the confort that "civilized" society provides (gas, air conditioning, electricity ...) a world where we over eat at fast foods while others starve and so on ...
So yeah why would playing games be the only clean and harmless part of our daily lives ?

I'm already feeling better to know that the Game Industry has it's full place in this big family that we call humanity

Put your money were your mouth is and sell all your PS3,Wii,TV your car and any other evil thing you have and move into a cave so you wont feel so guilty

[quexos]

Originally Posted by FEP3108

Put your money were your mouth is and sell all your PS3,Wii,TV your car and any other evil thing you have and move into a cave so you wont feel so guilty

It was a reflexion on the way things are. I did not point a finger at anyone in particular so clean your act before you start pointing fingers at people and don't be stupid ! how one person selling all his stuff and going into a cave is going to solve anything

[ThePhantomOak]

Originally Posted by Mikeblu

I accualy read this same article a while back where someone looked into it and the overall amount and Dell and Apple PCs is 12x the amount of coltan the PS2s required

I doubt that matters. Read first... It says it is not the amount that PS2 uses, it is the timing of the demand PS2 drove.

1. PS2 is launched: tantalum=$49/lb
2. PS2 faces shortages and Sony moves to buy as much as they can: tantalum=$275
3. People start to fight over who will gain most from the windfall...

Sony could have bought zero grams from the Congo, and it could have still pushed up the price in the Congo. I would not be shocked if price stabalized in the last few years, and the "overall amount" of Dell and Apple had only a small slow effect on the price.

It is not the amount used. It is the sudden change in demand causing an oppertunity to gain windfall profit, not just profit.