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Old 03-13-2015, 03:30 AM   #781
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How is this movie even remotely Noir?
I haven't had a chance to see it yet, but I certainly saw a lot of people calling it such when it came out.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/...oir_video.html

http://www.dallasnews.com/entertainm...-film-noir.ece

http://www.avclub.com/review/pt-ande...herent--212785

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015...homas-anderson

http://www.kcci.com/entertainment/re...wback/30759004

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Old 03-13-2015, 04:46 AM   #782
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Yes it's definitely considered neo noir by most, and you can clearly see those elements in the trailer. Vlad you should look into neo noir a little more, as it's not simply just the same thing as classic film noir, which you seem to be getting stuck on
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Old 03-13-2015, 05:56 AM   #783
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Would any of these qualify for the OP list?:

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Old 03-13-2015, 01:13 PM   #784
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Yes it's definitely considered neo noir by most, and you can clearly see those elements in the trailer. Vlad you should look into neo noir a little more, as it's not simply just the same thing as classic film noir, which you seem to be getting stuck on
I've seen Inherent Vice and the only reason I could see anyone calling it a Noir is because it stars a detective. Other than that, it is just a hippie druggie sexual fantasy movie more than a detective story.
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Old 03-13-2015, 01:15 PM   #785
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I'd say no to Road to Perdition, and Public Enemies as those are more crime/gangster films. The Killer Inside Me is apparently based off a noir novel from the 1950's, and some reviews have mentioned noir in them, so that's a maybe, though based off the plot, I'd lean towards no. I haven't seen the two De Palma films, but I think they might be more suspense/thriller in the vein of Hitchcock, with perhaps some noir elements included (which can be said about several Hitchcock's films too). I'd like others to chime in too
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Old 03-13-2015, 01:55 PM   #786
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I'd say no to Road to Perdition, and Public Enemies as those are more crime/gangster films. The Killer Inside Me is apparently based off a noir novel from the 1950's, and some reviews have mentioned noir in them, so that's a maybe, though based off the plot, I'd lean towards no. I haven't seen the two De Palma films, but I think they might be more suspense/thriller in the vein of Hitchcock, with perhaps some noir elements included (which can be said about several Hitchcock's films too). I'd like others to chime in too
Enemies and Perdition are pretty squarely gangster films--Perdition is the closer to neo-noir of the two, but even so I'd call it a bit of a stretch.

Body Double is (broadly) a sleazy update/amalgamation of Rear Window and Vertigo, debatable as a neo-noir (but not really..?), though to me it reads more as postmodern Hitchcock thriller to me. I've not seen Dressed to Kill; don't even know what it's about. De Palma certainly has the capacity to make a neo-noir, even though the one he has made, The Black Dahlia, is awful.

I've read The Killer Inside Me, but haven't seen the movie. It could fit as a neo-noir, depending on how stylized it is or isn't, but I can't speak to it.
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Old 03-13-2015, 02:24 PM   #787
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I've seen Inherent Vice and the only reason I could see anyone calling it a Noir is because it stars a detective. Other than that, it is just a hippie druggie sexual fantasy movie more than a detective story.
It fits in this thread and has what are to me obvious comparisons (I'll stop short of saying 'rip-offs') to several other films listed here. I'm more taken aback that the back cover states "noir-to-end-all-noirs...Nothing like it" when I can name a handful of other films like it that are actually better and more original than it.
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Old 03-13-2015, 02:26 PM   #788
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Would any of these qualify for the OP list?:
It would be hard for me to agree on any of those. I want to say Body Double could be hail mary'd in but it's been so long since I've seen it.

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I wish a real company would release the movie.
Missed your second statement, which I loved and wholeheartedly support lol

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Old 03-13-2015, 04:01 PM   #789
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I'm curious as to why Boomerang is listed on the main page. Has there ever been any hints to that coming out?
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Old 03-13-2015, 04:07 PM   #790
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I'm curious as to why Boomerang is listed on the main page. Has there ever been any hints to that coming out?
It's part of the Kazan at Fox Vol. 1 set

http://www.foxconnect.com/the-elia-k...-volume-1.html

It's also available separately in the UK, from Eureka (region B though)

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It's part of the Kazan at Fox Vol. 1 set

http://www.foxconnect.com/the-elia-k...-volume-1.html

It's also available separately in the UK, from Eureka (region B though)

Wow!, I am totally out of the loop.
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Old 03-14-2015, 05:58 AM   #792
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I've been collecting some neo-noir soundtracks that harken back to classic noir (L.A. Confidential, L.A. Noire, Body Heat, Basic Instinct), and was wondering if anyone had any related suggestions.

Bueller? Bueller?
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It fits in this thread and has what are to me obvious comparisons (I'll stop short of saying 'rip-offs') to several other films listed here. I'm more taken aback that the back cover states "noir-to-end-all-noirs...Nothing like it" when I can name a handful of other films like it that are actually better and more original than it.
Only a handful? I an think of 1000 movies that are superior to IH. Hell, Sin City 2 was better than IH and that movie sucked.
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Only a handful? I an think of 1000 movies that are superior to IH. Hell, Sin City 2 was better than IH and that movie sucked.
Well I wouldn't go that far, I liked the film, just thought that quote from the artwork was quite extreme.
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I've been collecting some neo-noir soundtracks that harken back to classic noir (L.A. Confidential, L.A. Noire, Body Heat, Basic Instinct), and was wondering if anyone had any related suggestions.

Bueller? Bueller?
Chinatown. One of the best scores ever.
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Old 03-15-2015, 01:58 AM   #796
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Chinatown. One of the best scores ever.
Got it already, and agreed.

I have:
Chinatown
L.A. Confidential
L.A. Noire
Body Heat
Basic Instinct
Gemini Rue
Blade Runner

But I can't think of any others to add to this list at this time. I can think of lots of neo-noir, but can't think if their sountracks would be along the same lines at the ones I listed here. I know for example that the musical performances in the night club in Dark City would fit here, but I can't bring the rest of that soundtrak to mind at the moment (gonna have to pop that in tonight and see).

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I have a question about a black and white film noir (at least I believe it is) that I have been trying to locate forever. I remember seeing it on tv several times when I was a child and one scene always stuck out - a man is in a convertible and a woman grabs him by the tie and ends up choking him to death.

I was wondering if any film noir aficionados here might know which film this scene is from - hopefully it has been released on blu!
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What about Western Noir? Someone commenting on a front page news item is happy to see a "Western Noir" being released.
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Can someone explain how these neo-noir scores actually harken to classic film noir?
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Old 03-15-2015, 03:26 AM   #800
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What about Western Noir? Someone commenting on a front page news item is happy to see a "Western Noir" being released.
I watched John Sayles' Lone Star (1996) in my film noir class in college.
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