Bloodborne

[Hobbun]

Originally Posted by Goodintentions

i believe the level cap for all souls games was 999 ...

Wow, ok I guess that’s a yes then on a high level cap.

[Goodintentions]

most people for PVP reasons stayed around 110-120 though as it made things to much alike after that

[Matt S]

999? I am only level 26...! Yikes!!!!

[Hellraiserfan]

Originally Posted by jsteinhauer

I'm really discouraged now. I honestly beat the Cleric Beast on my first attempt without really even trying. That made me think I was going to cruise through this. I have been getting owned by this game ever since. I couldn't beat Father Gascione by myself. I can't beat the Blood Starved Beast after numerous attempts. The first phase is easy, like the Father. Obvious tells. One attack can be parried and riposted for major damage. But the enraged poison form is just too fast for me. I soloed Demon's, Dark I and Dark II. This is a wholly different beast.

I gave up on Beast for now and went and opened the gate, killed some guys, then quit for the night to watch a Bond movie from my 50th Anniversary set. Something for when the wife is not home.

Not sure if someone already responded but I only played Father Gascione once last night before I went to bed. That first try I got him down to about half. If you have it, use the music box throughout the fight, it will stun him for a few seconds so you can get in some charged power attacks.

On the way to Father Gascione, I noticed in the sewers where the crawling zombies are there are little dead ends to the side of the main path leading up to that first giant boar. People are leaving messages saying something like, "it's common sense" in these little dead ends. Do you need a certain amount of Insight so something will appear? I read that the more insight you have the harder the game gets and some things as well as certain enemies will appear that you couldn't see before.

[Elandyll]

Originally Posted by Matt S

999? I am only level 26...! Yikes!!!!

I don't think it's quite that high in BB

Here is what's been found so far for caps:

Note: a Soft cap is when it becomes less interesting / harder to gain points, compared to the gain in doing so. A Hard cap is the actual maximum.

VITALITY: Soft 30, Hard 50
ENDURANCE: Soft is 40, beyond that there aren't any significant gains.
STRENGTH: Soft 25, Hard 50
SKILL: Soft 25, Hard 50
BLOODTINGE: Soft 25, Hard 50
ARCANE: Soft 25, Hard 50

Last night I explored pretty much everything that was accessible (sewers and all) and farmed some blood echoes on the way, and then got to try Father Gascoigne for the first time.
He killed me when I had him down to about 20% (bummer I had almost 4000 Blood Echoes on me at the time, and I died stupidly on my way back to get these)... I think I'll get him tonight

[jsteinhauer]

Originally Posted by Hellraiserfan

On the way to Father Gascione, I noticed in the sewers where the crawling zombies are there are little dead ends to the side of the main path leading up to that first giant boar. People are leaving messages saying something like, "it's common sense" in these little dead ends. Do you need a certain amount of Insight so something will appear? I read that the more insight you have the harder the game gets and some things as well as certain enemies will appear that you couldn't see before.

That's reported to be true about insight. It sounds similar to the world tendency concept in Demon's Souls.

PowerPyx makes great videos, but he's overpowered in his clips for this game that I have seen. Epicnamebro is slower to get them posted, but he can teach you how to beat the game at any level. For Father Gasciogne, play the music box after he transforms, if you have time, then simply backstab him.

Gonna get back to it. Maybe use the PowerPyx approach and overpower my character before trying to do too much else. I agree with Casual on the summon sign thing. That was a system that worked well. Just as well would have been leaving NPC phantoms you could summon. Maybe I need to increase my vitality above 8.

[Hellraiserfan]

Originally Posted by jsteinhauer

That's reported to be true about insight. It sounds similar to the world tendency concept in Demon's Souls.

PowePyx makes great videos, but he's overpowered in his clips for this game that I have seen. Epicnamebro is slower to get them posted, but he can teach you how to beat the game at any level. For Father Gasciogne, play the music box after he transforms, if you have time, then simply backstab him.

Yeah, the music box definitely helps a lot in that fight.

I've played and beaten Demon Souls and the first Dark Souls. When it comes to backstabbing in this game is it still your normal attack(R1) or is it the stronger one(R2)? I'm at work, otherwise I would be playing right now and trying it again. I ask because last night I snuck up on a few enemies and I didn't backstab. Not sure if you have to be even closer in this game than the previous ones or I wasn't directly centered up with the enemy.

[Matt S]

thanks for stat info!

On the hud, to the right of my equipped item, there are two symbols: green box with up arrow and redish box with up arrow....?

Not sure what they mean?


Thanks!!


I am guessing the green one is my weapon regen, but red at the same time? conflicting symbols?!

[dyne]

People dying at Hunter's Dream. Yes. Homebase. People will always find a way

http://kotaku.com/bloodborne-players...t-u-1693649641

[Hobbun]

With Bloodborne’s MP, are others able to 'invade' your world and fight you, similar to the Souls’ games? Or is it only in a cooperative means in helping fighting a boss (using the bell)?

[Hellraiserfan]

Originally Posted by dyne

People dying at Hunter's Dream. Yes. Homebase. People will always find a way

http://kotaku.com/bloodborne-players...t-u-1693649641

Yeah I noticed that last night. I was at the fountain vendor and saw someone's grave(forget what they're called). All I could do was shake my head and say "duuuuuumb aaaaasss".

[Hellraiserfan]

Originally Posted by Hobbun

With Bloodborne’s MP, are others able to 'invade' your world and fight you, similar to the Souls’ games? Or is it only in a cooperative means in helping fighting a boss (using the bell)?

If you purchase a certain bell it says you can invade another player's game.

[Hobbun]

Originally Posted by Hellraiserfan

If you purchase a certain bell it says you can invade another player's game.

Bah, that’s too bad.

Was hoping they got rid of that mechanic. I am all for helping others out (and taking their help), but never liked the whole aspect of another player jumping in my game to kill me. The game does a good enough job of that to me already.

[Hellraiserfan]

Originally Posted by Hobbun

Bah, that’s too bad.

Was hoping they got rid of that mechanic. I am all for helping others out (and taking their help), but never liked the whole aspect of another player jumping in my game to kill me. The game does a good enough job of that to me already.

It really pissed me of in Demon Souls, especially with that being the first game I played from From Software but in Dark Souls I started to enjoy it because I was a lot better at playing the game. I think I was able to kill roughly 80% of the people who would invade me.

This game though, without a shield and any possible lag is going to be disgusting. I don't know how well I'll do.

[Hobbun]

They should make it where only those who purchase that ‘PVP’ bell can be invaded.

Then those that want to PVP can do so, and those who don’t want to…don’t.

[Rothwilder Blu]

Originally Posted by Hobbun

They should make it where only those who purchase that ‘PVP’ bell can be invaded.

Then those that want to PVP can do so, and those who don’t want to…don’t.

Can always play offline if needed. People come into your world (PvP or not) with half their health, I've read.

[Goodintentions]

Originally Posted by Rothwilder Blu

Can always play offline if needed. People come into your world (PvP or not) with half their health, I've read.

this

which is why im sure they added that option this time around ...

[Monkey]

Originally Posted by jsteinhauer

[Show spoiler]
Gamma posted something above about a certain item, but it takes a bunch of other stuff, too, to get some armor. I tried violence for a while and failed, because I did not own the Blunderbuss. Then I bought the Blunderbuss, and it took a second. It's usually better not to kill guys, if you don't have to, as long as you can still get their item somehow.

My guess is, because of the difficulty without cheese, it is supposed to be done the outfit way. Something that could get patched, for sure.

ok, thanks. I actually just went to that area last night but didn't go up the tower yet. I was exploring the section beyond some house that was pitch black inside.

[Hobbun]

Originally Posted by Rothwilder Blu

Can always play offline if needed. People come into your world (PvP or not) with half their health, I've read.

I knew I should have added this originally as this answer would come up, but really don’t want to play offline to avoid a mechanic of the game, as I do like the idea of helping others out (and getting help).

At least though you come in at half health, although that’s too bad in a sense as it discourages those who want to help. Like I said, they should just leave the option open to each player (those who buy the PVP bell).

Oh well, guess will just need to deal with it. Hopefully it won’t happen too often.

[Terjyn]

Originally Posted by Goodintentions

most people for PVP reasons stayed around 110-120 though as it made things to much alike after that

In Demon's Souls they stayed at ~120 because that was about the level where people luck scumming had the maximum advantage over people who weren't. And somehow they convinced the community to follow that as their guideline.

For those who didn't know Demon's Souls let you get your luck stat to -99, which meant you could be level 120 with the combat stats of a level 219.