I'm glad others are saying what I think all the time. It's fine if region free members want to suggest another option, but I hate when they say Scream shouldn't bother releasing it because it's available in UK as a Region B locked disc. Even if it's region free, I would prefer the cover and menus to be in English as opposed to Japanese or French or whatever.
I don't know anyone that has a region free player, other then members on this forum. The truth is that region free people are a very, very small minority.
I'm not going to get into why I don't want to go region free, as many of them have already been mentioned, but I will say, I remember when DVD was dying down, almost everything that had a better release outside of North America, had been re-released as an equal or even superior edition here. So many posters were saying how they shouldn't have bothered as those discs are hard to get rid of, other then on eBay, which these days with all the hassles isn't even worth it. I have thousands of discs I want to buy in North America, I don't need to start adding all of the world wide releases to my wish list!
Last edited by spawningblue; 04-15-2015 at 03:13 PM.
A friend told me that Scream (or maybe it's another company) is supposed to be working on a blu-ray release for "One Million Years BC" -- the Raquel Welch cave man/cave woman movie with Ray Harryhausen dinosaurs and pterodactyls.
Has anyone heard about this or is my friend pulling my leg?
I'm glad others are saying what I think all the time. It's fine if region free members want to suggest another option, but I hate when they say Scream shouldn't bother releasing it because it's available in UK as a Region B locked disc. Even if it's region free, I would prefer the cover and menus to be in English as opposed to Japanese or French or whatever.
I don't know anyone that has a region free player, other then members on this forum. The truth is that region free people are a very, very small minority.
I'm not going to get into why I don't want to go region free, as many of them have already been mentioned, but I will say, I remember when DVD was dying down, almost everything that had a better release outside of North America, had been re-released as an equal or even superior edition here. So many posters were saying how they shouldn't have bothered as those discs are hard to get rid of, other then on eBay, which these days with all the hassles isn't even worth it. I have thousands of discs I want to buy in North America, I don't need to start adding all of the world wide releases to my wish list!
I go for the best PQ were ever that might be, so restricting myself to UK discs only just doesn't make sense to me.
I'm glad others are saying what I think all the time. It's fine if region free members want to suggest another option, but I hate when they say Scream shouldn't bother releasing it because it's available in UK as a Region B locked disc. Even if it's region free, I would prefer the cover and menus to be in English as opposed to Japanese or French or whatever.
I don't know anyone that has a region free player, other then members on this forum. The truth is that region free people are a very, very small minority.
I'm not going to get into why I don't want to go region free, as many of them have already been mentioned, but I will say, I remember when DVD was dying down, almost everything that had a better release outside of North America, had been re-released as an equal or even superior edition here. So many posters were saying how they shouldn't have bothered as those discs are hard to get rid of, other then on eBay, which these days with all the hassles isn't even worth it. I have thousands of discs I want to buy in North America, I don't need to start adding all of the world wide releases to my wish list!
There are plenty of U.S releases that are crap, some have been available for years, many of which will likely not receive a rerelease in the U.S on Blu-ray (UHD Blu-ray perhaps though). I could list a decent amount. However for purpose of my point I'll use a single example. The Transporter. The U.S disc is garbage:
However that hasn't stopped over 5000 members from purchasing it, compared to the less than 50 who have purchased the superior Japanese disc, which is also a region A territory I might add.
Also, regardless if some superior foreign versions do end up making their way to the U.S, you would have spent a similar amount of money purchasing two U.S versions as you would if you had purchased the superior foreign edition initially and a U.S rerelease at a later date, the only difference is that you would have been enjoying the superior foreign version for years already. Not only that, if a superior U.S version was to be released, like with your example about how some found it hard to get rid of old foreign versions that they had purchased newer U.S editions of, this would be the same for many older U.S editions as well. Getting rid of them would be harder, because once people are aware that there has been a rerelease and that the new version is superior, the demand for the original drops dramatically. For example, the original U.S release of The Terminator.
Last edited by Cevolution; 04-15-2015 at 04:19 PM.
Reason: Changed a couple of words.
A friend told me that Scream (or maybe it's another company) is supposed to be working on a blu-ray release for "One Million Years BC" -- the Raquel Welch cave man/cave woman movie with Ray Harryhausen dinosaurs and pterodactyls.
Has anyone heard about this or is my friend pulling my leg?
There are plenty of U.S releases that are crap, some have been available for years, many of which will likely not receive a rerelease in the U.S on Blu-ray (UHD Blu-ray perhaps though). I could list a decent amount. However for purpose of my point I'll use a single example. The Transporter. The U.S disc is garbage:
However that hasn't stopped over 5000 members from purchasing it, compared to the less than 50 who have purchased the superior Japanese disc, which is also a region A territory I might add.
Also, regardless if some superior foreign versions do end up making their way to the U.S, you would have spent a similar amount of money purchasing two U.S versions as you would if you had purchased the superior foreign edition initially and a U.S rerelease at a later date, the only difference is that you would have been enjoying the superior foreign version for years already. Not only that, if a superior U.S version was to be released, like with your example about how some found it hard to get rid of old foreign versions that they had purchased newer U.S editions of, this would be the same for many older U.S editions as well. Getting rid of them would be harder, because once people are aware that there has been a rerelease and that the new version is superior, the demand for the original drops dramatically. For example, the original U.S release of The Terminator.
No, because I haven't bought Transporter on Blu, so I would not be buying it twice. It was rushed out and released barebones which almost guarantees there will be a better edition later on, hence why I skipped all of those initial barebones releases. It may not be re-released yet, but many Blu-rays from that initial run have had superior re-releases so it's only a matter of time (Maybe when the reboot hits theatres?). Again, I have enough movies to watch (Over a thousand), let alone buy from NA (Several thousand), I have no problem holding out, especially for a film like Transporter haha. The only release that's really bothering me is Black Sabbath, but I hold out hope Kino will release a Bava box set that combines both editions of that film together, maybe with some more supplements.
Again, showing that 5000 have the crappy version compared to 50 who have the superior version shows you that people don't like to import, and this is on Bluray.com, a site dedicated to Blu-ray enthusiasts. Outside of this site that percentage is even smaller. You are, as already stated before, a very very small minority.
As for getting rid of your old crappy US edition, again, you think the average customer knows about a superior version released in the UK or Japan? Local stores that buy up used media will almost never purchase imports. Your only option would be eBay, where as you could get rid of the crappy US version just about anywhere that buys used media.
Last edited by spawningblue; 04-15-2015 at 05:00 PM.
A friend told me that Scream (or maybe it's another company) is supposed to be working on a blu-ray release for "One Million Years BC" -- the Raquel Welch cave man/cave woman movie with Ray Harryhausen dinosaurs and pterodactyls.
Has anyone heard about this or is my friend pulling my leg?
He's pulling your leg, unless he's an industry insider. I am really hoping it's with TT like many have guessed, but we'll have to wait and see.
Thanks for the response regarding "One Millions Years BC." Seems like my buddy is misinformed. I can only keep hoping that this classic movie makes it to blu-ray one day.
No, because I haven't bought Transporter on Blu, so I would not be buying it twice. It was rushed out and released barebones which almost guarantees there will be a better edition later on, hence why I skipped all of those initial barebones releases. It may not be re-released yet, but many Blu-rays from that initial run have had superior re-releases, so it's only a matter of time (Maybe when the reboot hits theatres?). Again, I have enough movies to get through and buy, I have no problem holding out, especially for a film like Transporter haha.
My previous post was talking in general, not about you specifically.
You greatly exaggerate, overall, only a small percentage of Blu-ray's have been rerelease where they are different/superior to the "initial run". The majority of titles have only been given one transfer in each region.
9 years into the life of Blu-ray and you are still waiting, almost a decade of your life. If you like wasting your life waiting for things, then that's your choice.
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Again, showing that 5000 have the crappy version compared to 50 who have the superior version shows you that people don't like to import, and this is one Bluray.com, a site dedicated to Blu-ray enthusiasts.
No, what it shows is that many of them are stupidly prepared to hand their money over for a lesser product.
As for referring to many of these individuals who are just like yourself as enthusiasts, I beg to differ. IMO you are not a true enthusiast if you straight out refuse to import at all under any circumstance, especially if you know that there is a vastly superior version of a title you want out there, but chose to go with the inferior one. An enthusiast actually shows an interest in what they are buying, and makes informed decisions, so that they can get the best quality that their money can buy. IMO you are a casual Blu-ray consumer at best.
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In the rest of the world that percentage is much much smaller. You are, as already stated before, a very very small minority.
As for getting rid of your old crappy US edition, again, you think the average customer knows about a superior version released in the UK or Japan? Local stores that buy up used media will almost never purchase imports. Your only option would be eBay, where as you could get rid of the crappy US version just about anywhere that buys used media.
In my experience selling foreign titles, they hold more value than your average U.S title. Since you don't import you wouldn't know anything about this. We are on Blu-ray.com, average consumers and what they know is irrelevant here, all that matters is what you know. The fact that you visit this site and have the resources available to you, therefore making you more informed than that the average consumer, but still purposely choose to ignore these things, is beyond ignorant IMO.
Btw, if you want this conversation to not continue, I would suggest you don't reply
Last edited by Cevolution; 04-15-2015 at 07:37 PM.
Reason: Made serveral small changes, so that some sentences better reflected what I meant.
Thanks for the response regarding "One Millions Years BC." Seems like my buddy is misinformed. I can only keep hoping that this classic movie makes it to blu-ray one day.
Thank you soo much for your advice lol but what about Cheerleader Camp (1988)???? will it be on blu ray from shout?
I think Cheerleader Camp (aka Bloody Pom Poms) might be a possibility from someone. It looks like MGM may be the current copyright holder for the film.
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Bloody pom poms / a Quinn/Prettyman production in association with Prism...
Type of Work: Motion Picture
Registration Number / Date: PA0000404150 / 1988-02-12
Title: Bloody pom poms / a Quinn/Prettyman production in association with Prism Entertainment and Daiei Company, Ltd. ; produced by Jeff Prettyman ; produced and directed by John Quinn.
Description: 2 videocassettes : sd., col. ; 3/4 in.
Copyright Claimant: Bloody Pom Poms Productions, Inc.
Date of Creation: 1987
Date of Publication: 1988-01-29
Authorship on Application: film director/producer and other cinematographic material: John M. Quinn; producer and other cinematographic material: Jeff Prettyman; words and other cinematographic material: David Lee Fein.
Previous Registration: Screenplay prev. reg. 26May87, PAu 957-710.
Basis of Claim: New Matter: "motion picture version with original music and all other cinematographic material."
Copyright Note: C.O. correspondence.
Names: Quinn, John M., 1947-
Prettyman, Jeff, 1943-
Fein, David Lee, 1948-
Prism Entertainment
Daiei Company, Ltd.
Bloody Pom Poms Productions, Inc.
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Document Number: V3614D258
Date of Recordation: 2012-02-01
Entire Copyright Document: V3614 D257-267 P1-159
Registration Number Not Verified: PA404150.
Title: BLOODY POM POMS. PA404150.
Type of Work: Recorded Document
Document Number: V3614D258
Date of Recordation: 2012-02-01
Entire Copyright Document: V3614 D257-267 P1-159
Date of Execution: 3Feb12; as of 6Feb12
Title: $6.95 Bionic Shark, The & 550 other titles (part 002 of 011)
Notes: Amended and restated copyright security agreement.
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Orion TV Productions, Inc., MGM Domestic Digital Media, Inc., MGM Domestic TV Networks, LLC, MGM International Digital Media, Inc., Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Distribution Company, This Network, LLC, MGM Domestic Networks, LLC, United Artists Production Finance, LLC & United Artists Entertainment, LLC.
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Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios, Inc.
Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Home Entertainment, LLC
Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Lion Corporation
Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Pictures, Inc.
MGM and UA Services Company
MGM Domestic Television Distribution, LLC
MGM Home Entertainment Distribution Corporation
MGM Interactive, Inc.
MGM Networks, Inc.
MGM on Demand, Inc.
MGM Television Entertainment, Inc.
Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Animation, Inc.
MGM/UA, Inc.
Pathe Films, Inc.
Pathe Releasing Corporation
United Artists Corporation
United Artists Pictures, Inc.
MGM North America Holdings, Inc.
MGM International Television Distribution, Inc.
Orion Pictures Corporation
Metro Pictures Corporation of America
Orion Film Classics Company
Heritage Entertainment, Inc.
United Artists Films, Inc.
Orion Pictures Distribution Corporation
Orion Pictures Library Acquisition Company, Inc.
PFE Library Acquisition Company,Inc.
Orion TV Productions, Inc.
MGM Domestic Digital Media, Inc.
MGM Domestic TV Networks, LLC
MGM International Digital Media, Inc.
Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Distribution Company
This Network, LLC
MGM Domestic Networks, LLC
United Artists Production Finance, LLC
United Artists Entertainment, LLC.
JPMorgan Chase Bank, NA.
Strangeland @ Lionsgate...I dont think they care bout this title.
There's an HD transfer already available for this as there are many of Lionsgates films. I still hold to my belief that this, and everything with a digital HD release from lionsgate will eventually see a Blu Ray release as part of a budget multi-film collection in the next 1-3 years.
There's an HD transfer already available for this as there are many of Lionsgates films. I still hold to my belief that this, and everything with a digital HD release from lionsgate will eventually see a Blu Ray release as part of a budget multi-film collection in the next 1-3 years.
All evidence points to Lionsgate not particularly caring about releasing their own catalog on Blu-ray.
All evidence points to Lionsgate not particularly caring about releasing their own catalog on Blu-ray.
I would agree with you, but the plethora of multi-film Horor DVD's they released in the last few years leads me to believe that this would be a cheap way for Lionsgate to repeat what they've done before with DVD and simply dump the HD transfers onto 2 BD's and then sell them as 4 to 8 Film collections for relatively little money. As a collection in this format, no one would expect new or cleaned up transfers or special features. It would appeal to the hardcore film crowds and could generate some cheap sales.
Of course I could be wrong about all of this, but I gotta believe that Lionsgate will at least try to duplicate what seemed to work for DVD when their are already HD transfers available.
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