Disney going to DTS MA?

[Clark Kent]

It could be a sign Disney is testing the waters for future releases. Now that the PS3 fully decodes DTS-HD MA, most of the installed BD player base can now hear it fully. I honestly hope Disney switches to DTS-HD MA. With New Line being destroyed by Warner Brothers who never uses DTS, we need another studio now to go DTS. I don't ever expect Paramount or Warner to use anything but Dolby TrueHD.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Clark Kent

I honestly hope Disney switches to DTS-HD MA. With New Line being destroyed by Warner Brothers who never uses DTS, we need another studio now to go DTS.

Why?

Less efficient.
Less support.
No dynamic range option.

And let's not forget possible damage to their audio gear:

What about the poor folks who don't use the internet message boards and have access to a thread like this:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1008620

You want to explain to them why their damaged equipment was worth something that would have sounded the same in TrueHD?

[Sith]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Why?

Less efficient.
Less support.
No dynamic range option.

And let's not forget possible damage to their audio gear:

What about the poor folks who don't use the internet message boards and have access to a thread like this:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1008620

You want to explain to them why their damaged equipment was worth something that would have sounded the same in TrueHD?

Personally i wish everyone would go Uncompressed.....

If Disney wants to use dts on most non classic stuff whatever...

But when we finally get Pinoccio or Snow White, Peter Pan, Bambi,etc. on blu they better be in 7.1 uncompressed.....

[Woody]

Originally Posted by Sith

Personally i wish everyone would go Uncompressed.....

If Disney wants to use dts on most non classic stuff whatever...

But when we finally get Pinoccio or Snow White, Peter Pan, Bambi,etc. on blu they better be in 7.1 uncompressed.....

I am fairly sure PCM is going the way of the dodo. For better or worse.

[GarettP]

I hope so and I hope it is 7.1 as well, since I finally have a 7.1 setup and am surprised there is not more 7.1 movies!

[jceperley]

On the subject of Disney using DTS- MA 7.1, looks like they're gonna stick with it through the year. It's a known fact that Nightmare Before Christmas (due out next week- which I can't wait for) does have it, and in the recent couple of days, it appears that both the new Narnia and Wall-E (plus whatever Pixar catalog title comes that day- I'm willing to bet it'll be either The Incredibles of A Bug's Life 10th Anniversary- but that's OT) will be getting it too. I just hope that the Kill Bill releases next month and Sin City (whenever that comes out- I think it'll be early '09) that those two get it. Disney/ Buena Vista's always been the best studio IMO for blu-ray, and this just adds to it.

[saprano]

Originally Posted by Woody

I am fairly sure PCM is going the way of the dodo. For better or worse.

I think the only studio thats going to use it is disney,and maby lions gate.

though as of late lions gate movies have been using dts-ma 7.1,the last one that i remember that used 7.1 PCM was 3:10 to yuma.

and for the record i prefer PCM over all the HD sountracks, why? its Raw thats why, its not tinkerd with.and it sounds the best to me....next to dts-ma.

and for everybody wondering why alot of people dont like dolbyTrueHD(me) its because the fact is alot of the movies using that soundtrack dont sound as good as PCM,or dts. I'll give cloverfield the exception. yes we all know there all the same(pcm)but that doesn't stop whats going behind scenes during the mixing....excuse me,the ecoding process.

and it seems to me (and alot of people) that dolby doesn't mix there soundtracks as good as dts.

[Leopold BUTTERS]

I wish that there was only PCM. I love PCM. Every player can do it, not all players decode Dolby True HD or DTS MA HD, and recievers can do PCM and not need to decode internally. PCM is my fav.

[Sith]

Originally Posted by Woody

I am fairly sure PCM is going the way of the dodo. For better or worse.

maybe not, Narnia prince caspian just announced 7.1 pcm.....

on most of the classics you got to figure there will be 2 discs so space will
not be an issue, on single discs that could be a different story


and on a dts hd ma....I heard popping 5 times playing it thru my ps3...not cool

[Woody]

Originally Posted by Sith

maybe not, Narnia prince caspian just announced 7.1 pcm.....

on most of the classics you got to figure there will be 2 discs so space will
not be an issue, on single discs that could be a different story


and on a dts hd ma....I heard popping 5 times playing it thru my ps3...not cool

FWIW any popping on a PS3 has nothing to do with the "bitstream bomb".

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Woody

FWIW any popping on a PS3 has nothing to do with the "bitstream bomb".

There's been popping reported on other machines as well.

I suppose you're going to call him a liar or FUDster or fanboy or something clever, eh?

[Woody]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Why?

Less efficient.
Less support.
No dynamic range option.

And let's not forget possible damage to their audio gear:

What about the poor folks who don't use the internet message boards and have access to a thread like this:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1008620

You want to explain to them why their damaged equipment was worth something that would have sounded the same in TrueHD?

Oh great.

I couldn't care less what codec is used (lossless is lossless), but to answer your "points"

Less efficient. Who cares?
Less support. My gear does it, so who cares?
No dynamic range option. LOL, why would I use that?

Possible damage to their gear: FUD

I can just imagine the tears shed by some folks when Uni announced DTS MA support, I can't even imagine what will happen if Disney does too.

Until then, I will enjoy my Dolby THD 7.1 tracks............................. oh wait, no I won't.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Woody

Less efficient. Who cares?

Studios for one. More space for whatever else. Not everyone wants to use 2 discs.

Less support. My gear does it, so who cares?

Selfish much?

No dynamic range option. LOL, why would I use that?

Well, guess you live alone or don't have neighbors.

Possible damage to their gear: FUD

Not FUD. That thread I linked to has someone who had speaker damage just this very month from a NEW title (despite DTS claiming they would fix the issue in encoding).

I can just imagine the tears shed by some folks when Uni announced DTS MA support, I can't even imagine what will happen if Disney does too.

Universal wasn't too surprising.

Until then, I will enjoy my Dolby THD 7.1 tracks............................. oh wait, no I won't.

Your fake reprocessed tracks you mean?
My receiver can process ANY 5.1 track to 7.1 the same way MiCasa does it.

[Woody]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Studios for one. More space for whatever else. Not everyone wants to use 2 discs.

And why would I care if it takes more for a studio to encode it? Uni, Lionsgate, and Fox don't seem to mind.

Selfish much?

So I guess I should be a THD crusader like you because you are so "unselfish"?

Well, guess you live alone or don't have neighbors.

2 kids and a wife, no neighbors close enough to have a problem.

Not FUD. That thread I linked to has someone who had speaker damage just this very month from a NEW title (despite DTS claiming they would fix the issue in encoding).

Did you happen to mention that he was the FIRST in that months long thread to report "speaker damage"? And of course we have no proof of it. It could easily be a FUDster. No you say? People have done and said far worse throughout this format war when they had an axe to grind. Why was he the first and only?

And as an above poster said, you are reaching blaming that on DTS anyway. But why am I not surprised?

Universal wasn't too surprising.

Your fake reprocessed tracks you mean?
My receiver can process ANY 5.1 track to 7.1 the same way MiCasa does it.

No, I just mean a discreet, lossless 7.1 track mixed by whomever, approved by the studio, and in Dolby THD.

I will wait for a couple to show up...........................

What? Where are they? Is it possible that there is a limitation or complication to the great Dolby THD??

[blitz6speed]

I prefer DTS HD MA over TrueHD anyday. The fact that Dialnorm is on max as default on the TrueHD encoder is enough for me to not like Dolby in general. Peter is just a fanboy, but we love him anyway.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Woody

So I guess I should be a THD crusader like you because you are so "unselfish"?

Nearly all BD players have been updated to support TrueHD. Including those who dropped a grand on the Sony BDPS-1. Most standalones do not support DTS-MA and those who do only bitstream it. Not everyone has a PS3 after all.

2 kids and a wife, no neighbors close enough to have a problem.

Again, that's *you*. My household has kids that go to bed fairly early. If I want to watch discs after they go to bed with TrueHD I can toggle the DRC and still get decent surround.

What? Where are they? Is it possible that there is a limitation or complication to the great Dolby THD??

You know very well there's no such limitation. The fake reprocessing can be in any format.

[saprano]

Peter can the dialnorm be change in the receiver with TrueHD?

i remember i was watching a movie and i pressed something on my receiver, i dont remeber what it was, and i saw dialnorm+4.

[Woody]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Nearly all BD players have been updated to support TrueHD. Including those who dropped a grand on the Sony BDPS-1. Most standalones do not support DTS-MA and those who do only bitstream it. Not everyone has a PS3 after all.

So for the good of all BR fans everywhere!! You are quite the crusader.

Again, that's *you*. My household has kids that go to bed fairly early. If I want to watch discs after they go to bed with TrueHD I can toggle the DRC and still get decent surround.

How is that my problem??

You know very well there's no such limitation. The fake reprocessing can be in any format.

FUD again. Why so few (if any) Dolby THD 7.1 tracks? Simple question really.

[Sir Terrence]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Why?

Less efficient.
Less support.
No dynamic range option.

And let's not forget possible damage to their audio gear:

What about the poor folks who don't use the internet message boards and have access to a thread like this:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1008620

You want to explain to them why their damaged equipment was worth something that would have sounded the same in TrueHD?

Peter, don't you think its a bit disengenous to blame Dts for a faulty IC chip when they don't make IC chips? I can understand your love for Dolby products, but does that have to be at the sometimes inaccurate detriment to Dts?

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by Sir Terrence

Peter, don't you think its a bit disengenous to blame Dts for a faulty IC chip when they don't make IC chips? I can understand your love for Dolby products, but does that have to be at the sometimes inaccurate detriment to Dts?

Agreed, it's very misleading despite the obvious and documented knowledge to the contrary.