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Old 07-18-2015, 09:58 PM   #1
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Too funny, literally about 2hr. after I made that ^ post, I’m alerted to listen to ~ 23 min. mark of yet another YouTube -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZWW...tu.be&t=23m20s

To which Scottie responds….”Yes, exactly” and moves on quickly to other things. I guess it’s nice to at least see my concern validated by the boys at SpectraCal.

And Joel …..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZWW...utu.be&t=4m20s

it may not be well understood on other forums/websites but color augmented by HDR is well understood on Blu-ray.com , or should be, as of about 2 weeks ago. But I do like how you guys think in regards to past pronouncements by *the video guru* Joe (K.)
When I get around to it, I’ve got to watch that ^ entire video to see if it’s Derek or Stacey who display the best


‘cause I’d always play cards with Joel (heck, even with Dave Vaughn of http://www.soundandvision.com/writer/12760) but those other two from SpectraCal scare me a little.
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When I get around to it, I’ve got to watch that entire video....
I did this afternoon because we had a lot of rain hereabouts today which cut my riding time significantly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZWW...tu.be&t=32m45s

Stacey (from SpectraCal), yes….true, re-mastering of previously shot movies for HDR is being done now. But, for the best quality HDR, you want to have had everything in 16-bit…. 16-bit RAW capture with your digital camera, high quality (floating point) color processing with a 16-bit openEXR workflow (which will retain as much dynamic range as was in the original capture) and then re-grading in HDR from the original 16-bit P3 theatrical master renders which are rendered out in PQ ((ST 2084) BT. 2020.

Is everyone doing that?.....and, over the course of time, will some content providers succumb to the temptation of using inferior sources in order to blow out an HDR title….to make some easy money? Sure, anyone can make HDR versions of 10 or 12-bit content look better than the original SDR version, but if one uses a 16-bit source, one will get significantly better results. One studio has already proven this with their internal testing.

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Got a call it a win for Derek on the poker face thing (I plan never on playing cards with that guy ), as it looks to me like Stacey cracks a wee bit of a smile at the end….https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZWW...u.be&t=1h4m40s
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZWW...tu.be&t=32m45s

Stacey (from SpectraCal), yes….true, re-mastering of previously shot movies for HDR is being done now. But, for the best quality HDR, you want to have had everything in 16-bit…. 16-bit RAW capture with your digital camera, high quality (floating point) color processing with a 16-bit openEXR workflow (which will retain as much dynamic range as was in the original capture) and then re-grading in HDR from the original 16-bit P3 theatrical master renders which are rendered out in PQ ((ST 2084) BT. 2020.

Is everyone doing that?.....and, over the course of time, will some content providers succumb to the temptation of using inferior sources in order to blow out an HDR title….to make some easy money? Sure, anyone can make HDR versions of 10 or 12-bit content look better than the original SDR version, but if one uses a 16-bit source, one will get significantly better results. One studio has already proven this with their internal testing.
For example, in other words, no matter which manufacturer solution (Technicolor, Dolby, etc.) employed, in order to bring out the fullest potential of what HDR has to offer, it be best to have *top-level* acquisition and source for the “top-service” post production….

http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/techfa...ontentID=44028
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