rtings.com told me one the plasma's had bad motion blur can please help me. - Blu-ray Forum

batman2000 · 07-26-2015, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by poke smot

I might have sounded harsh before...but you will never know about a tv until you plug it in at your house and watch it. I've had 2 lcds and they were great. Still have the vizio. There are some great looking sets out there I'm sure. Look at what best buy has to offer, do your research, purchase one. Keep it for a week. If you don't like it return it and get something else. Now I've had and have Samsung and vizios, so that's where my vote goes. I like em both. Hell vizio now has full array led, I'd bite. Heck with as long as you have drawn this out you should have maybe been able to save some more money. Just sayin.

what about sony's and does motion blur make or brake for gaming please answer both questions

ultraman352 · 07-26-2015, 02:57 PM

Learn how to use proper grammar, and learn to do your own research, everyone has given you advice. You are very unlikely to find a plasma for 400$. You will not find a projector for 400$. Buy a Vizio, you'll be fine, when you are on a budget, enjoy what you have.

poke smot · 07-26-2015, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by batman2000

what about sony's and does motion blur make or brake for gaming please answer both questions

Sony is great. I'm not a huge gamer so I wouldn't notice a few milliseconds of lag or blur. Like I said the only way to really know, is to plug the tv in your house and watch and play the hell out of it for a week. The way you talk, I'll bet you wouldn't even tell the difference between bad and average motion blur. Take the plunge already. Geez, I would want want to be around if you had to purchase a car or something.

Retroj23 · 07-26-2015, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by batman2000

what about sony's and does motion blur make or brake for gaming please answer both questions

Like spoke smot already said, just buy an LED in your price range and see if you like it. $400 won't get you much in terms of quality but that is what is to be expected. If you want plasma then Craigslist is your best bet. Oh yeah, goggle is your friend. Do some research.

ZoetMB · 07-26-2015, 10:06 PM

Motion blur is not necessarily a bad thing. If you take a piece of 35mm motion picture film and look at one frame where there happens to be movement (say an action scene), you're going to see blur. Why? Because generally, film is exposed at only 1/48th of a second (twice the 24 fps presentation rate).

Furthermore, if you eliminate the motion blur, you get the dreaded "soap opera" effect. When sets have all these motion control settings, that's generally the side effect.

Motion blur is necessary to get the suspension of disbelief necessary for motion pictures. You can see this yourself by watching an action scene in some movie that you can buy into and then watching a similar scene on the "making of" documentary about the film that was shot on video. Everything in the "making of" looks totally fake and it makes you wonder how the movie itself looked so great. It's primarily because of the lack of motion blur in the documentary. This is why I'm glad that most filmmakers seem to have abandoned the idea of going to high frame rate video. I thought "The Hobbit" looked horrible at HFR.

I have no idea about video games as I don't play them, but since plasmas are very subject to burn-in, it's not the best idea to be playing video games on a plasma.

I strongly suggest you stop being so worried about what reviewers tell you and get into a showroom and look at the sets. While there are many advantages to Plasma, there are some beautiful looking LCDs out there when they are calibrated properly.

As far as the availability of Plasma is concerned, what others have posted is correct: you're not getting a new one for $400. While most manufacturers have stopped making them, there are some models that they claim on their websites to still be current, although they might actually be unavailable:

If you can find one, there's a Samsung 4500 51" for $450. (It was originally $850). There's also the F5300 (51" $600), H5000 (64" $1300) and the F8500 (51" $2700). Buy fast because it's the end of plasma. Those sets are not made in 42" or whatever it was you were asking for.

07-26-2015, 02:57 PM	#2
ultraman352 Active Member Member since:Feb 2011 4K collection:155 Blu-ray collection:661 DVD collection:68 Digital collection:278 Blu-ray reviews:1	Learn how to use proper grammar, and learn to do your own research, everyone has given you advice. You are very unlikely to find a plasma for 400$. You will not find a projector for 400$. Buy a Vizio, you'll be fine, when you are on a budget, enjoy what you have.

07-26-2015, 10:06 PM	#5
ZoetMB Blu-ray Ninja Member since:May 2009 Location:New York Blu-ray collection:172 DVD collection:27 Blu-ray reviews: 3	Motion blur is not necessarily a bad thing. If you take a piece of 35mm motion picture film and look at one frame where there happens to be movement (say an action scene), you're going to see blur. Why? Because generally, film is exposed at only 1/48th of a second (twice the 24 fps presentation rate). Furthermore, if you eliminate the motion blur, you get the dreaded "soap opera" effect. When sets have all these motion control settings, that's generally the side effect. Motion blur is necessary to get the suspension of disbelief necessary for motion pictures. You can see this yourself by watching an action scene in some movie that you can buy into and then watching a similar scene on the "making of" documentary about the film that was shot on video. Everything in the "making of" looks totally fake and it makes you wonder how the movie itself looked so great. It's primarily because of the lack of motion blur in the documentary. This is why I'm glad that most filmmakers seem to have abandoned the idea of going to high frame rate video. I thought "The Hobbit" looked horrible at HFR. I have no idea about video games as I don't play them, but since plasmas are very subject to burn-in, it's not the best idea to be playing video games on a plasma. I strongly suggest you stop being so worried about what reviewers tell you and get into a showroom and look at the sets. While there are many advantages to Plasma, there are some beautiful looking LCDs out there when they are calibrated properly. As far as the availability of Plasma is concerned, what others have posted is correct: you're not getting a new one for $400. While most manufacturers have stopped making them, there are some models that they claim on their websites to still be current, although they might actually be unavailable: If you can find one, there's a Samsung 4500 51" for $450. (It was originally $850). There's also the F5300 (51" $600), H5000 (64" $1300) and the F8500 (51" $2700). Buy fast because it's the end of plasma. Those sets are not made in 42" or whatever it was you were asking for.

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