2025-2026 NFL Season Thread

[R3P0]

Brady v NFL who will win

[dcowboy7]

Originally Posted by fatediesel

Yeah, Stephen A. was the one that said that and he backtracked pretty quick, saying that he'd heard that but couldn't confirm it. Most reporters wouldn't report a rumor that they don't have multiple sources on, but Stephen A. stopped being a real reporter a long time ago.

Im confused ?? why is destroying the phone a big deal if they can still get the records ?

[fatediesel]

Originally Posted by dcowboy7

Im confused ?? why is destroying the phone a big deal if they can still get the records ?

That's what I don't get, the phone itself is fairly meaningless. The records on the phone could be messed with by erasing certain messages, but the phone provider could provide a full transcript of every text message sent from the phone.

[dcowboy7]

Im shocked - evidently they cant:

"‎During the four months that the cell phone was in use, Brady had exchanged nearly 10,000 text messages, none of which can now be retrieved from that device."

[Moviefan1203]

Originally Posted by R3P0

Brady v NFL who will win

It's going to be an epic battle.

[fatediesel]

I really think Brady should just take the suspension. It's an uphill battle to win a federal case and with him destroying his phone and not cooperating it's going to be tough to win. The problem is he could get the injunction to play initially, but then in November or December lose the court battle and become suspended for the end of the season or playoffs. With games vs. the Steelers, at the Bills, vs. the Jaguars, and at the Cowboys there's a good chance the team is 2-2 at worst, which is the same record they started last year with.

One thing I'll never understand is why Brady didn't cooperate with Wells' investigation. Wells told Brady he and his lawyers could print out all his texts and black out anything not related to their investigation. They didn't want him to actually turn over his phone. Why wouldn't you cooperate with that? I've heard speculation that the NFLPA didn't want him to turn over his phone because that would have set a bad precedent for players, but if he had given the messages there's no way the suspension would have been as severe, and it's possible the suspension would have been overturned since the NFL in their ruling today admitted the Wells Report has problems.

[Terjyn]

Originally Posted by fatediesel

One thing I'll never understand is why Brady didn't cooperate with Wells' investigation. Wells told Brady he and his lawyers could print out all his texts and black out anything not related to their investigation. They didn't want him to actually turn over his phone. Why wouldn't you cooperate with that?

It's hard for me to think anything but Brady wouldn't comply because there were texts in there that made it obvious he actually did it, and he didn't want a direct admission in the Wells report.

I still don't buy referring to a guy losing weight as "the Deflator", and that overrides anything else I've seen in either the Wells report or the rebuttal.

*EDIT* One thing that's clear though, if the Phone company has the texts or not was irrelevant to the Wells report because there is no way that Wells was in a position to demand them. If it does go to court, now it matters.

[fatediesel]

Originally Posted by Terjyn

It's hard for me to think anything but Brady wouldn't comply because there were texts in there that made it obvious he actually did it, and he didn't want a direct admission in the Wells report.

The thing is Wells wouldn't know if Brady had texts that were admissions of guilt because Brady and his lawyers could have just blacked out the texts. He definitely didn't text either of McNally or Jastremski because Wells had their phone records since their phones were team-issued, so even if he was admitting something to someone else Wells would never know it was missing.

[Hatter]

Man Goodell is dumb. You would think that he would have learned his lesson after the bountygate scandal which in terms of accusations was far more severe. Brady is going to destroy them.

[rickah88]

Week 1 can't arrive soon enough.

Let's see someone who may/may not deflated a football, but then used properly inflated footballs to crush an opponent then win a championship gets 4 days.

Le'Veon Bell, who actually...ya know...broke laws gets his suspension reduced.

[Moviefan1203]

I still don't understand why Brady just didn't swallow his pride back in January. All he had to do was have a press conference and say that he didn't know letting a few pounds of pressure out was breaking the rules. He could have apologized profusely and still vowed that the integrity of the game was important to him. He would have gotten a big fine, but he wouldn't have this mess. He's in a world of hurt.

[walruswarrior]

Brady destroyed a phone . Ya that guy is innocent lol.

[Santa Barbara]

I'm glad to know the NFL values footballs higher than women.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Santa Barbara

I'm glad to know the NFL values footballs higher than women.

Thank you! Very well said!

[Moviefan1203]

Originally Posted by Santa Barbara

I'm glad to know the NFL values footballs higher than women.

Apples and oranges.

[rickah88]

[dcowboy7]

NFL does value woman alot.

SNF was actually tied for the #1 show among woman 18-49 & was #1 among woman 18-34.

[Hatter]

Originally Posted by walruswarrior

Brady destroyed a phone . Ya that guy is innocent lol.

Considering that a simple factory restore can essentially do the exact same thing, this really doesn't mean a whole lot. The reality is that the phone company has all these records but the NFL's crack team are too stupid to realize that.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Hatter

Considering that a simple factory restore can essentially do the exact same thing, this really doesn't mean a whole lot. The reality is that the phone company has all these records but the NFL's crack team are too stupid to realize that.

I don't think it's the NFL being stupid, but I believe they would need to get a court order to access the info via the carrier. Since no laws were broken, I doubt that would ever happen.
I have nothing to hide but if I were accused of cheating at work, no way I'd want my employer combing through my private life.
Operative word there being "private"
I'm just Joe Average. So I can, absolutely, understand why Brady said No, as that info would be all over the planet.

[Moviefan1203]

Having the phone destroyed on the day of the interview was a huge misstep by Brady.