4K Blu-ray Confirmed, Coming in

[Penton-Man]

Seems I’m on a Japanese venue thing today. So, to continue with that theme , although much of the information as to the HDR mandatory and optional (Dolby and Phillips) parameters for Ultra HD Blu-ray detailed in the following Japanese reporting have already been described at least in piecemeal fashion over past months by either Richard or myself, but as a follow-up/affirmation to thee old, rather esoteric, SeeQVault discussion –

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

For those not following 'NSM', I’m referring to SeeQVault with Ultra HD Blu-ray players…..the idea being to make the whole digital copy process much easier with Ultra HD Blu-ray than it is today with existing Blu-ray and DVD.

See one of the later pages here, from yesterday - http://www.phileweb.com/news/d-av/201508/18/37210.html ....if my Google translator worked right over lunchtime.

[Derb]

Any word if the format will be available this year for average joe's?

Am tired of watching 4K Macrovision.

[bailey1987]

Tomorrow could be the big day, do any of the insiders know if we can expect anything or is it still more than likely to be IFA before anything concrete appears?

[Penton-Man]

No title talk from me. Last time I did that was back in '06 with leaking Happy Madison’s Click (on another forum) as the scheduled-to-be first BD50 title…and a couple people got irritated as I stole a tiny bit of their marketing announcement thunder. All I can tell you is that, with regards to tools for dem titles, the beta version of Indigo Ultra™ has been available for content creators since July…… http://www.prweb.com/releases/2015/07/prweb12851998.htm

And although not mentioned in the ^ press release, Version 1.0 is scheduled for release next month.

[raygendreau]

Some tricky issues. Schubin talks HDR:

The Schubin Talks: Next-Generation-Imaging, Higher Dynamic Range by Mark Schubin - YouTube

[Geoff D]

Good little video, glad to see that the misconception that HDR needs a massive bandwidth overhead is addressed once again.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

Some tricky issues...

Tricky Issue People

And also

And, for the creatives, because even though the cameras can do it, the filmmakers can still learn a thing or two…..image dynamic range to be included on the curriculum, in one fashion or another, at future Master Classes - http://www.theasc.com/site/asc-master-class/ but, until then,

a freebie next week.

[Bandit Tajomaru]

Why 4k Blurays when 5k monitors are already available?

[Spike M.]

Originally Posted by Bandit Tajomaru

Why 4k Blurays when 5k monitors are already available?

Because 5K isn't a mastering standard, and the human eye can't distinguish the difference unless you put your nose to the screen.

5K monitors exist so 4K movies can be edited in 4K. Basically, so something like Gone Girl can be edited in full 4K without being in fullscreen. That's sorta dumb in my opinion, but apparently it's Mac's excuse. That and DSLR photos.

[Geoff D]

Gone Girl had a 6K post pipeline for a 5K finish so I can see why they'd want >4K monitors. http://postperspective.com/gone-girl...chers-path-6k/

[spectre08]

Originally Posted by Bandit Tajomaru

Why 4k Blurays when 5k monitors are already available?

what?

the reason Apple and Dell made 5K monitors was so that content creators could work with 4K content without down-scaling it or filling the screen.

On a 5K monitor you can work with 4K video at full resolution, and still have a significant amount of space outside the video for toolbars.

[singhcr]

Originally Posted by spectre08

what?

the reason Apple and Dell made 5K monitors was so that content creators could work with 4K content without down-scaling it or filling the screen.

On a 5K monitor you can work with 4K video at full resolution, and still have a significant amount of space outside the video for toolbars.

I didn't think of that. Thanks for the explanation!

[David M]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

It seems this writer was surprised by the Digital Bridge.

"•Digital Bridge

The last feature on this list will be news to most, since Digital Bridge has been under wraps until today’s announcement.

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/uhd-b...1505124056.htm

Originally Posted by Geoff D

To be fair to David Mackenzie, he's got better things to be doing than hanging around on this forum all the time or wading through the wikileaks Sony documents.

What gave you the impression I was surprised by it? I was NDA'd on this feature for months before the announcement. Not being able to talk about it != not knowing

[bobbydrugar]

That's the kind of thing that makes me nervous about the industry and some of these new technologies. What is the point of an NDA on a feature that is meant to get people interested. Why all the cloak and dagger. What else are they not telling us.

Communication it is one of the things that separates us from other species, Why don't we use it.

T

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by Lyris

What gave you the impression I was surprised by it? I was NDA'd on this feature for months before the announcement. Not being able to talk about it != not knowing

That's why I qualified the statement with the word "seems"

Meanwhile, back at the HDR, SMPTE continues its work on the tricky stuff:

read:https://kws.smpte.org/kws/public/pro...project_id=294

[dubious]

Off topic, but uhd-ray.com is still available for cyber squatting.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Lyris

What gave you the impression I was surprised by it? I was NDA'd on this feature for months before the announcement. Not being able to talk about it != not knowing

You and your fancy NDA's. Still, at least you're not a cocktease like some people are, you keep schtum and that's the end of it until the info is properly released.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by spectre08

what?

There’ll be an article in the November issue of ACM on Spectre.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Lyris

Not being able to talk about it != not knowing

Since last we talked, I just hope you’ve been working on your pronunciation….http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/temporal

So as to refine your presentations during interviews or at conferences, e.g.….

Dr. Hari Shroff: New Technologies for High Spatial and Temporal Resolution Imaging - YouTube

P.S.
To SMPTE fellows reading, I don’t care about what Mark says, for he’s long marched (in his sandals) to the beat of a different drummer. David is not so incorrigible.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by bobbydrugar

That's the kind of thing that makes me nervous about the industry and some of these new technologies. What is the point of an NDA on a feature that is meant to get people interested. Why all the cloak and dagger. What else are they not telling us....

Skepticism will not get you a TIES account password…

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

…..Craig and Scott (D.) submitted an extensive ~ 80 page report detailing Dolby’s HDR (or EDR, if you will) proposal to the working party - http://www.itu.int/md/R12-WP6C.AR-C-0052/en
in which it described black level and diffuse white as well as highlights as contributors to the Dolby high dynamic range solution, also detailing bit depths, described the calculation of the Perceptual Curve EOTF for converting digital video code values into absolute linear luminance levels at the point of display, and vice versa.