Shin Godzilla (2016)

[Hardkore]

Originally Posted by Lt. Brannigan

Fathom?

Not too sure how she would feel about going on a date with the big G.

[Janjira54]

It will get a theatrical release, like the recent AoT movie or DBZ movie

[Lt. Brannigan]

Originally Posted by Janjira54

It will get a theatrical release, like the recent AoT movie or DBZ movie

If it's like DBZ then my theater will get it.

[OrlandoEastwood]

Originally Posted by Lt. Brannigan

I would be surprised if Sony didn't already have a deal locked in, considering they have had the home video license for most of the Heisei and Millennium series for about two decades now.

I doubt it. The same Sony who let the rights revert back to Toho on Godzilla vs the Sea Monster, Son of Godzilla, Godzilla vs the Smog Monster, Godzilla vs Gigan, and Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla? I think their interest peaked in the early-mid 2000's.

[MechaGodzilla]

Originally Posted by Hardkore

Not too sure how she would feel about going on a date with the big G.

Depends on how much of a size queen she is, I guess.

[Show spoiler]

Originally Posted by OrlandoEastwood

I doubt it. The same Sony who let the rights revert back to Toho on Godzilla vs the Sea Monster, Son of Godzilla, Godzilla vs the Smog Monster, Godzilla vs Gigan, and Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla? I think their interest peaked in the early-mid 2000's.

True, they did, but they also renewed their rights for the Heisei and Millennium films. Evidently sales are better for the more recent movies, so it's not impossible they'd be interested in the latest one.

[Lt. Brannigan]

Originally Posted by OrlandoEastwood

I doubt it. The same Sony who let the rights revert back to Toho on Godzilla vs the Sea Monster, Son of Godzilla, Godzilla vs the Smog Monster, Godzilla vs Gigan, and Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla? I think their interest peaked in the early-mid 2000's.

But they also released the Heisei and Millennium series on Blu-Ray last year, if they hadn't done that I would have agreed with you.

[RockzillaXD]

Originally Posted by Lt. Brannigan

But they also released the Heisei and Millennium series on Blu-Ray last year, if they hadn't done that I would have agreed with you.

The contracts for those films had longer dates before they expired. Had it not been for the 2014 film we wouldn't have seen those on bluray last year. If Sony was truly interested they would have renewed the rights to the Showa films they had.

[Lt. Brannigan]

Originally Posted by RockzillaXD

The contracts for those films had longer dates before they expired. Had it not been for the 2014 film we wouldn't have seen those on bluray last year. If Sony was truly interested they would have renewed the rights to the Showa films they had.

But the Showa series after about 1964 was far more cheesy and much more likely to be less appreciated by the average movie goer. I still say Sony has the rights for any new Godzilla film.

This could settled far more effectively if we had some insider access to either either Toho or Sony. At this point we can argue all day and it would all be speculation because neither of us have any true knowledge on the subject.

It's fun to argue though....

Besides it appears that they first started releasing the millennium series on video in 1998, and only started with the Showa in 2004. Seems to me that they saw little to no profit on those, but had more success with the newer movies. Or perhaps Toho simply chose not to renew the contract with Sony for them

Either way Sony seems rather insistent on keeping the 91-2005 films which they have had for 17 years now.

[OrlandoEastwood]

Originally Posted by Lt. Brannigan

But the Showa series after about 1964 was far more cheesy and much more likely to be less appreciated by the average movie goer. I still say Sony has the rights for any new Godzilla film.

The Showa films is what most die hard G' fans grew up with. It's our bread and butter. And those Blu-rays that Sony did were lame ass attempts at a cash grab for the 2014 remake. Problems like two minutes of dead air after the end on Godzilla Vs Mothra: Battle for Earth or the wrong trailers attached in the bonus material or the over all poor quality control that Sony did.

Sony doesn't have any exclusivity to any future Godzilla movies. We could easily say the same about another Toho franchise that Paramount owns the rights to four out of the six entries, the Japanese Ring films. They passed on Sadako 3D while Well Go USA picked up the fifth film. Currently, nothing has been updated as far as a release on Sadako 3D Part 2.

[Lt. Brannigan]

Originally Posted by OrlandoEastwood

The Showa films is what most die hard G' fans grew up with. It's our bread and butter. And those Blu-rays that Sony did were lame ass attempts at a cash grab for the 2014 remake. Problems like two minutes of dead air after the end on Godzilla Vs Mothra: Battle for Earth or the wrong trailers attached in the bonus material or the over all poor quality control that Sony did.

Sony doesn't have any exclusivity to any future Godzilla movies. We could easily say the same about another Toho franchise that Paramount owns the rights to four out of the six entries, the Japanese Ring films. They passed on Sadako 3D while Well Go USA picked up the fifth film. Currently, nothing has been updated as far as a release on Sadako 3D Part 2.

You keep talking about "die hard" G fans, and honestly I don't think there is enough of us to make the Showa films worthwhile to any major studio.

As for the quality control on the Blu-Rays they released, I have no comment. The only complaint I have is that the Japanese version of Godzilla 2000 looked horrible, like it was simply a DVD upscale. I am just thrilled I have the option of watching them in Japanese.

As for other Toho franchises not having a regular home, foreign language films don't do well in the states, especially ones that are perceived to be silly like the showa series. It really would take a smaller distributor to even see a profit from those. Think about it, how many major US labels release foreign language films?


Godzilla on the other hand is a proven brand, and obviously the 91-2005 series proved to be good enough sellers, because Sony released 2 waves of Blu-Rays.

But as I said, all we have is speculation and till it actually gets a US press release we won't have any solid evidence to back up either argument.

Personally, my favorite studio is Toei... I would love to get my hands on their library.

[SirMontyPython]

Originally Posted by Lt. Brannigan

Fathom?

RIP Michael Turner
But back on topic, I am very curious how this story is going to come along, especially since the events of the MUTO, I'm curious how this next story is going to develop. Not going to assume anything as I've no knowledge of what the story could be about...

[Lt. Brannigan]

Originally Posted by SirMontyPython

RIP Michael Turner
But back on topic, I am very curious how this story is going to come along, especially since the events of the MUTO, I'm curious how this next story is going to develop. Not going to assume anything as I've no knowledge of what the story could be about...

I doubt that what happened in the US Godzilla will have any effect on the Japanese movie. As of yet no one has any idea what story Toho has up their sleeve.

[Jimmy Smith]

Originally Posted by Lt. Brannigan

I doubt that what happened in the US Godzilla will have any effect on the Japanese movie. As of yet no one has any idea what story Toho has up their sleeve.

They seem to be indicating they are going for a villainous Godzilla with this movie. The 2014 movies marketing definitely suggested Godzilla as a threat to humanity but that's not what we got in the movie where Godzilla seems only to be a threat to rival monsters and is cheered by the public at the end. Likely this will distinguish itself from the American series with a portrayal of Godzilla more like the original as a terror on mankind

[Janjira54]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Smith

They seem to be indicating they are going for a villainous Godzilla with this movie. The 2014 movies marketing definitely suggested Godzilla as a threat to humanity but that's not what we got in the movie where Godzilla seems only to be a threat to rival monsters and is cheered by the public at the end. Likely this will distinguish itself from the American series with a portrayal of Godzilla more like the original as a terror on mankind

It has already been described as a "nightmarish version of the 54 film"

[Infernal King]

Showa is my favorite Godzilla era by far.

[Jimmy Smith]

Originally Posted by Lt. Brannigan

I would be greatly surprised if Sony doesn't release it.

I'd say most likely Warner will release it. Mostly because they distribute Legendary's Godzilla series and thus they have more attachment to Godzilla than any other American studio. They will probably even put promotion for their Godzilla 2 in the extras for the Toho movie. I highly doubt Toho would object in anyway. Remember that Toho gets licensing fees and Japanese distribution and Merchandising rights for Legendary movies for a movie that they invest nothing into the production for. Its free money

[Lt. Brannigan]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Smith

I'd say most likely Warner will release it. Mostly because they distribute Legendary's Godzilla series and thus they have more attachment to Godzilla than any other American studio. They will probably even put promotion for their Godzilla 2 in the extras for the Toho movie. I highly doubt Toho would object in anyway. Remember that Toho gets licensing fees and Japanese distribution and Merchandising rights for Legendary movies for a movie that they invest nothing into the production for. Its free money

I thought Godzilla was with Universal now because of Legendary's studio jump?

[Underworld54]

Originally Posted by Lt. Brannigan

I thought Godzilla was with Universal now because of Legendary's studio jump?

Godzilla's Hollywood incarnation is through Universal, Toho should be able to release it under whatever studio they chose.

[Lt. Brannigan]

Originally Posted by Underworld54

Godzilla's Hollywood incarnation is through Universal, Toho should be able to release it under whatever studio they chose.

No doubt Toho should be able to release it with whoever they please but given that at the moment Sony has the most Godzilla movies in their catalog with a total of 11 movies, That's why I am leaning towards them releasing it.

On the other hand, Legendary could have all North American rights to the character and they might distribute through Universal.

[DouglasJ]

Godzilla 2 is not with Universal, it's with Warner Bros. They are still distributing the sequels despite the Legendary/Universal deal.