UltraHD Blurays and players will start coming by Christmas 2015. Still buying blurays

[Dubstar]

Fox's announcement should have included which object based mixing (Atmos or DTS-X) is being implemented on these discs wait and see, wait and see.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by Dubstar

Fox's announcement should have included which object based mixing (Atmos or DTS-X) is being implemented on these discs wait and see, wait and see.

Well, unless it's a trade secret under an NDA clause, Fox won't be using premium Dolby Vision HDR expanded coding for now (just standard SMPTE HDR as Samsung's SUHD sets are using that protocol and they're in partnership), so they're probably open to either audio format.

If Fox was using Dolby Vision, which is supposed to need 100 GB discs, they'd be trumpeting it at these conferences. I'd be surprised if Dolby Vision discs would have DTS:X audio, rather Dolby Atmos. It makes no difference to me, but from what I hear Atmos for the home is actually more capable (more individual simultaneous objects allowed) than consumer DTS:X.

[Dubstar]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

Well, unless it's a trade secret under an NDA clause, Fox won't be using premium Dolby Vision HDR expanded coding for now (just standard SMPTE HDR as Samsung's SUHD sets are using that protocol and they're in partnership), so they're probably open to either audio format.

If Fox was using Dolby Vision, which is supposed to need 100 GB discs, they'd be trumpeting it at these conferences. I'd be surprised if Dolby Vision discs would have DTS:X audio, rather Dolby Atmos. It makes no difference to me, but from what I hear Atmos for the home is actually more capable (more individual simultaneous objects allowed) than consumer DTS:X.

that would be really weird and counterintuitive in "commercial branding"

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

Well, unless it's a trade secret under an NDA clause, Fox won't be using premium Dolby Vision HDR expanded coding for now (just standard SMPTE HDR as Samsung's SUHD sets are using that protocol and they're in partnership), so they're probably open to either audio format.

If Fox was using Dolby Vision, which is supposed to need 100 GB discs, they'd be trumpeting it at these conferences. I'd be surprised if Dolby Vision discs would have DTS:X audio, rather Dolby Atmos. It makes no difference to me, but from what I hear Atmos for the home is actually more capable (more individual simultaneous objects allowed) than consumer DTS:X.

The 2084 HDR is the mandatory version for UHD BD whereas Dolby Vision is optional, you can be guaranteed if they were using the latter they'd be shouting it from the rooftops. I don't think we'll see Dolby Vision™ branded discs until we start seeing more displays with that tech, although it's not like there are loads at the moment with 2084 either, admittedly!

It's a pity DV wasn't the mandatory version though as I much prefer the dual-layer system because it's formed of an SDR base and HDR extension, so mugs like me with a pre-UHD 4K TV would get a properly graded SDR output instead of something which has an on-the-fly transform from P3 HDR to Rec.709 SDR.