PS2 Classics Coming to PS4?

[Mavrick]

I have to wonder how many people are actually going to re-buy these PS2 games for what could be a 3rd or 4th time. If we own it digitally then why can't we use it across formats.

[Gamma_Winstead]

Originally Posted by Mavrick

I have to wonder how many people are actually going to re-buy these PS2 games for what could be a 3rd or 4th time. If we own it digitally then why can't we use it across formats.

They'd better be cross play. There's no reason they can't be. Even if the data doesn't carry over.

If they added full trophy support, that's the only way I'd consider buying games again that I'd already bought on PS3. Even then, that'd only be games that are very specific. It wouldn't be everything.

[Havok83]

Originally Posted by Gamma_Winstead

They'd better be cross play. There's no reason they can't be. Even if the data doesn't carry over.

If they added full trophy support, that's the only way I'd consider buying games again that I'd already bought on PS3. Even then, that'd only be games that are very specific. It wouldn't be everything.

I think you mean Cross Buy. Most of those games arent online enabled. I dont see why they wouldnt be Cross Buy if they are simply the same PS2 Classics and not remasters. You didnt have to repurchase the PS1 Classics when the Vita got support for that

[dyne]

They've also been ramping up the output of PS1 games the last couple of weeks (MML's NEXT WEEK!). I'd like to think it's for an emulator being dropped on the PS4 but that's wishful thinking. If I could play my digital PS1 library on my PS4 my PS3 would finally get disconnected.

[Nerdkiller likes BD]

So, if these are really gonna be HD remasters of PS2 games, I really hope for sure that they include Twisted Metal Black Online with the regular game as well. Market is so thin for online enabled car combat games, this gen.

[navydavey]

Find a way to upscale the Onimusha series for PS4 with trophy support and I will pay whatever they ask

Find a way to get Freedom fighters on my VITA with trophy support and I will give any organ or future children I may sire

[Talal86]

Originally Posted by navydavey

Find a way to upscale the Onimusha series for PS4 with trophy support and I will pay whatever they ask

Find a way to get Freedom fighters on my VITA with trophy support and I will give any organ or future children I may sire

I remember playing a little of Onimusha on the first playstation, it was pretty good, they should definitely relaunch the series

FF looks like a fun game

EDIT: oh wait, I was thinking of Tenchu: Stealth Assassins, not Onimusha, but it does look pretty good

[Gamma_Winstead]

Originally Posted by Havok83

I think you mean Cross Buy. Most of those games arent online enabled. I dont see why they wouldnt be Cross Buy if they are simply the same PS2 Classics and not remasters. You didnt have to repurchase the PS1 Classics when the Vita got support for that

Yeah, that's what I meant.

I'm worried it's going to be a PSnow type deal, where you can only stream the games.

[Wingman1977]

Sony basically has gone all in with PS now (whether it succeeds or fails). So honestly, I wouldn't hold my breath for BC appearing on the PS4.

[Mavrick]

Originally Posted by Wingman1977

Sony basically has gone all in with PS now (whether it succeeds or fails). So honestly, I wouldn't hold my breath for BC appearing on the PS4.

I don't think it's about B/C but Sony releasing PS2 games on the store like they did on PS3.

[Wingman1977]

Originally Posted by Mavrick

I have to wonder how many people are actually going to re-buy these PS2 games for what could be a 3rd or 4th time. If we own it digitally then why can't we use it across formats.

Because Sony wants the $$$$.

[Havok83]

Originally Posted by Wingman1977

Because Sony wants the $$$$.

That would be such an awful look especially with MS bringing BC to the X1. For Sony to bring these games over and not have them be BC would be such a bad PR move, that they might as well not do it. If they can run on a PS3 (and Vita or PSP if they go further and sell PS1 Classics), then there really isnt any reason why the PS4 cant. It would just send a message of greed that would unnecessarily hurt their reputation

[Derb]

Originally Posted by Havok83

That would be such an awful look especially with MS bringing BC to the X1. For Sony to bring these games over and not have them be BC would be such a bad PR move, that they might as well not do it. If they can run on a PS3 (and Vita or PSP if they go further and sell PS1 Classics), then there really isnt any reason why the PS4 cant. It would just send a message of greed that would unnecessarily hurt their reputation

Emulation of any game thrown on the PS3 (digital) I believe had to go through the Cell Processor. Could be wrong, I just feel after the discontinued 60GB Phat model Sony gave up on BC. Streaming has been their huge focus since.. "Giaka" or whatever the hell that was called led to PS Now & so on. Only shot of true BC is Sony emulating the Cell into a software program & bring back CD-ROM on a hardware level.

[Zivouhr]

I'd like Soul Reaver 1 and 2 in HD 1080p.
Driver 1 and 2 (with a better frame rate) in HD too.
And a lot more.

Twisted Metal Black I actually never played yet.

[Havok83]

Originally Posted by Derb

Emulation of any game thrown on the PS3 (digital) I believe had to go through the Cell Processor. Could be wrong, I just feel after the discontinued 60GB Phat model Sony gave up on BC. Streaming has been their huge focus since.. "Giaka" or whatever the hell that was called led to PS Now & so on. Only shot of true BC is Sony emulating the Cell into a software program & bring back CD-ROM on a hardware level.

The PSP nor the Vita have the Cell processor so that theory shouldnt matter

[Musashi]

Originally Posted by Derb

Emulation of any game thrown on the PS3 (digital) I believe had to go through the Cell Processor. Could be wrong, I just feel after the discontinued 60GB Phat model Sony gave up on BC.

Sony dropping PS3's BC with PS2 games was actually due to added cost of the GS and its VRAM. I know it sounds crazy, but the VRAM in the PS2 was actually faster than any RAM in the PS3, so an all software emulator was physically impossible.

Originally Posted by Derb

Only shot of true BC is Sony emulating the Cell into a software program

That would be true for playing PS3 games on PS4, but for PS1 games, as pointed out here:

Originally Posted by Havok83

The PSP nor the Vita have the Cell processor so that theory shouldnt matter

Each system used its own PS1 emulator. Sony could certainly develop a PS1 emulator for the PS4, and I think they should. And it's on that note that I think they should also make a PS2 emulator for PS4. The RAM speed issue is well taken care of now.

Originally Posted by Derb

bring back CD-ROM on a hardware level.

No need for that; the PS4's Blu-ray drive can read CD and DVD already.

[Derb]

Originally Posted by Musashi

Each system used its own PS1 emulator. Sony could certainly develop a PS1 emulator for the PS4, and I think they should. And it's on that note that I think they should also make a PS2 emulator for PS4. The RAM speed issue is well taken care of now.


No need for that; the PS4's Blu-ray drive can read CD and DVD already.

I'm thinking.. There was no emulation for PS3 after the discontinued Phat model. Each game (PS 1 & 2) had to be coded separately for the Cell & delivered digital only to the console. A true digital only emulation for PS4 is possible.

Unless I missed something, PS4 can't read CD-Rom's or at least that's all I've been hearing from everyone here. Can ya play music CDs?

[Steelmaker]

Would rather see more HD remasters honestly. I have no desire to go back to playing those grainy, pixelated games.

[Taipan]

I would like to see the Star Wars games that the SNES had. Those were fun...