Aladdin (1992) (Diamond Edition) - Page 72 - Blu-ray Forum

BenjaminG · 10-04-2015, 09:36 AM

Can anyone who has the disc on hand check the duration of the A Diamond in the Rough: The Making of Aladdin? The review here lists it as 70 minutes long, but the original DVD version was 109 minutes long. Hoping that its a mistake and it hasn't been truncated....

MisterXDTV · 10-04-2015, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RyanMatthew

So, The Lion got cropped to 1.78, but Aladdin gets to stay 1.85. This is irritating. Why can't they all be OAR?

You got it all wrong: OAR for both is 1.66:1 so it's the 1.85:1 version that is cropped not the other way around.

Paulo Elias · 10-04-2015, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by leomichel74

Hi,

A message to those who already have the Blu-ray.

Nobody has mentioned it but one of highlights of the Aladdin DVD was that it had two audio-commentaries : a "Filmmakers' Audio Commentary" with Musker and Clements and Amy Pell and an "Animator's Audio Commentary" with Glen Keane, Eric Goldberg, Andreas Deja and Will Finn.

Have these two been ported over ?

In the Brazilian edition the commentaries are available if you select Bonus Features from the Top Menu, and then the DVD Bonus Features before playing the movie.

Lsalas76 · 10-04-2015, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightman04

Sorry if this has already been answered, but is this confirmed to be the same transfer as the UK version. I looked through the forum and didnt see anything...

Yeah I was wondering this too. I actually have already double dipped on the Uk version. I had the standard Uk release then gave it to my brother when I heard that there was going to be a steelbook release. The review is up now and although there is no real mention if the video is the same as the Uk one, the US has a Dts-hd 7.1 audio soundtrack, while the UK has a 5.1 audio sountrack.
It also looks like theres a bit more special features and extras on the US version.
Don't forget that the US version also comes with a digital copy(which you can sell if thats not your thing). I am debating if I should triple dip and buy the US version mainly to get the digital copy, and even though Im no stickler for audio, for me it would be good to have the best possible version of the movie. The review says that theres a 9 minute speacial feature with Genie Outtakes that ends with a tribute to Robin Williams, which I would like to have and watch and not sure if that special feature will get ported over to digital. Plus the regular slip cover looks nice too bad it probably wont fit on my steelbook. I would like to see how the Best Buy lecticular slip cover looks in person.

eightslicesofpie · 10-04-2015, 01:57 PM

Glad this got such a great review and is packed with special features. Can't wait to get it!

Nicolawicz · 10-04-2015, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by gonzo_fool

Just like the UK edition, I'm seeing some troublesome edge enhancement throughout those caps.

Yeah, it's full of it. Maybe resulting from some error.

Tom Servo · 10-04-2015, 04:08 PM

So it seems all blu-ray versions worldwide will only contain about 90% of the vertical presentation...frustrating.

Now I'm just waiting to find out if the Target "digi-book" is a real one this time, or a separate book in the slip case.

Lnds500 · 10-04-2015, 04:24 PM

Once again, there is some very weird artifacts on the picture. This is another non perfect CAPS transfer after Rescuers and Tarzan. I hoped the Diamond release would rectify the problems.

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Originally Posted by mgmoya

Yes, look this snapshots captured from my blu-ray disc:

[Show spoiler]

Greetings from Chile.

Which program are you using to take screenshots of the menus?

Justadoo444 · 10-04-2015, 04:30 PM

Now that every Rennisance Era classic has been released and reviewed in the US, I decided to rank them based on the PQ, AQ and BFQ.

It's a close race.

4. The Little Mermaid
Video: 4.5
Audio: 4.5
Bonus Features: 4

3. Aladdin (It's unfair that this one just missed both Imax AND 3D, is it not?)
Video: 4.5
Audio: 5
Bonus Features: 4

2. The Lion King
Video: 5
Audio: 5
Bonus Features: 4

1. Beauty and the Beast
Video: 5
Audio: 5
Bonus Features: 4.5

So yeah. Alas, poor Aladdin, nudged out of new things Disney tries by this much.

They didn't even put the Genie-Oke OR Diamond Edition Preview videos on there!
(I don't like sounding like Iago, but JEEZ! Is it quality control's day off?)

Ernest Rister · 10-04-2015, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Justadoo444

Now that every Rennisance Era classic has been released and reviewed in the US, I decided to rank them based on the PQ, AQ and BFQ.

It's a close race.

4. The Little Mermaid
Video: 4.5
Audio: 4.5
Bonus Features: 4

3. Aladdin (It's unfair that this one just missed both Imax AND 3D, is it not?)
Video: 4.5
Audio: 5
Bonus Features: 4

2. The Lion King
Video: 5
Audio: 5
Bonus Features: 4

1. Beauty and the Beast
Video: 5
Audio: 5
Bonus Features: 4.5

So yeah. Alas, poor Aladdin, nudged out of new things Disney tries by this much.

They didn't even put the Genie-Oke OR Diamond Edition Preview videos on there!
(I don't like sounding like Iago, but JEEZ! Is it quality control's day off?)

How does Lion King get a 4 for bonus features versus Beauty and the Beast? Were you not able to access the Second Screen App?

Gabkat2007 · 10-04-2015, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lnds500

Once again, there is some very weird artifacts on the picture. This is another non perfect CAPS transfer after Rescuers and Tarzan. I hoped the Diamond release would rectify the problems.

Not only that, but the Digital HD version shown on Vudu has two things that this Blu-ray doesn't have: the original blue castle Walt Disney Pictures logo, and the 1.66:1 aspect ratio. Why Disney couldn't have just used that transfer for the Blu-ray, I have no idea, since the Digital HD version clearly has more vertical information than the 1.85:1 transfer.

jpanimation · 10-04-2015, 05:58 PM

I'm curious about the 1:85:1 aspect ratio too. The CAPS films were all animated at 1:66:1 and thus far for Diamond Editions, they've been sticking with a 1:78:1 aspect ratio (Beauty and the Beast and The Lion King, even The Little Mermaid went with at 1:78:1). Not sure what prompted the cropping. I guess I'm actually more annoyed with Disney trying to erase all existence of the blue castle logo and the PIXAR castle.

NzYme · 10-04-2015, 06:18 PM

Love the mix on the DVD even though it's still a lossy track. According to the review looks as if the DTS-MA won't disappoint either.

The_Iceflash · 10-04-2015, 06:21 PM

1:85:1 is the Original Theatrical Aspect Ratio. Not that hard to comprehend or is it that hard to wrap our minds around. The artifacts are clearly minor and source related and not conspiracy based. If they had tampered with it to fix it there would be claims of "revisionism" and overly restoring it. There would be complaining either way!

Jiminy Christmas, do we have to ***** about everything?

Ernest Rister · 10-04-2015, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Iceflash

1:85:1 is the Original Theatrical Aspect Ratio. Not that hard to comprehend or is it that hard to wrap our minds around. The artifacts are clearly minor and source related and not conspiracy based. If they had tampered with it to fix it there would be claims of "revisionism" and overly restoring it. There would be complaining either way!

Jiminy Christmas, do we have to ***** about everything?

Correct...if you saw this in theaters in the U.S., you didn't see it at 1.66:1. If you saw it on 4:3 TVs on laserdisc, yeah, you saw it at 1.66:1.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DbzooE7jtiE

PeterTHX · 10-04-2015, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Correct...if you saw this in theaters in the U.S., you didn't see it at 1.66:1. If you saw it on 4:3 TVs on laserdisc, yeah, you saw it at 1.66:1.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DbzooE7jtiE

Yep, OAR is 1.85. 1.66 is just what the final animation was rendered by CAPS and like other full-frame presentations was not seen in theaters.

The CAV LD cover was absolutely gorgeous. Still have mine.

biomerge · 10-04-2015, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Yep, OAR is 1.85. 1.66 is just what the final animation was rendered by CAPS and like other full-frame presentations was not seen in theaters.

The CAV LD cover was absolutely gorgeous. Still have mine.

Would've made a beautiful lenticular cover.

Lnds500 · 10-04-2015, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PeterTHX

The CAV LD cover was absolutely gorgeous. Still have mine.

How the mighty have fallen...

Justadoo444 · 10-04-2015, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

How does Lion King get a 4 for bonus features versus Beauty and the Beast? Were you not able to access the Second Screen App?

I was going off of the site's rating.
Also, I DO have TLK, and the second screen (PC/Mac) doesn't work, even you remove the S from the HTTPS of the link (It elicits an error otherwise). It needs to be fixed.

Justadoo444 · 10-04-2015, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Justadoo444

I was going off of the site's rating.
Also, I DO have TLK, and the second screen (PC/Mac) doesn't work, even you remove the S from the HTTPS of the link (It elicits an error otherwise). It needs to be fixed.

As in, if you go to the computer edition, you get an error because the link is HTTPS instead of HTTP. When you actually get to it, it doesn't sync, no matter what you do. (Bd-Live is in need of fixing; I cannot get to the Virtual Vault either.)

10-04-2015, 04:30 PM	#1429
Justadoo444 Member Top contributor Member since:Oct 2014 4K collection:24 Blu-ray collection:149	Disney Rennisance Score Tally Now that every Rennisance Era classic has been released and reviewed in the US, I decided to rank them based on the PQ, AQ and BFQ. It's a close race. 4. The Little Mermaid Video: 4.5 Audio: 4.5 Bonus Features: 4 3. Aladdin (It's unfair that this one just missed both Imax AND 3D, is it not?) Video: 4.5 Audio: 5 Bonus Features: 4 2. The Lion King Video: 5 Audio: 5 Bonus Features: 4 1. Beauty and the Beast Video: 5 Audio: 5 Bonus Features: 4.5 So yeah. Alas, poor Aladdin, nudged out of new things Disney tries by this much. They didn't even put the Genie-Oke OR Diamond Edition Preview videos on there! (I don't like sounding like Iago, but JEEZ! Is it quality control's day off?) Last edited by Justadoo444; 10-04-2015 at 04:37 PM.

10-04-2015, 05:58 PM	#1432
jpanimation Active Member Member since:Feb 2012	I'm curious about the 1:85:1 aspect ratio too. The CAPS films were all animated at 1:66:1 and thus far for Diamond Editions, they've been sticking with a 1:78:1 aspect ratio (Beauty and the Beast and The Lion King, even The Little Mermaid went with at 1:78:1). Not sure what prompted the cropping. I guess I'm actually more annoyed with Disney trying to erase all existence of the blue castle logo and the PIXAR castle. Last edited by jpanimation; 10-04-2015 at 06:04 PM.

10-04-2015, 06:21 PM	#1434
The_Iceflash Active Member Member since:Jan 2013	1:85:1 is the Original Theatrical Aspect Ratio. Not that hard to comprehend or is it that hard to wrap our minds around. The artifacts are clearly minor and source related and not conspiracy based. If they had tampered with it to fix it there would be claims of "revisionism" and overly restoring it. There would be complaining either way! Jiminy Christmas, do we have to ***** about everything? Last edited by The_Iceflash; 10-04-2015 at 06:29 PM.

10-04-2015, 09:36 AM	#1421
BenjaminG Power Member Member since:Jul 2008 Location:Australia 4K collection:516 Blu-ray collection:1089 Trading Score:33	Can anyone who has the disc on hand check the duration of the A Diamond in the Rough: The Making of Aladdin? The review here lists it as 70 minutes long, but the original DVD version was 109 minutes long. Hoping that its a mistake and it hasn't been truncated....

10-04-2015, 01:57 PM	#1425
eightslicesofpie Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Feb 2015 Trading Score:233	Glad this got such a great review and is packed with special features. Can't wait to get it!

10-04-2015, 04:08 PM	#1427
Tom Servo Expert Member Top contributor Member since:Sep 2010 4K collection:219 Blu-ray collection:4418 DVD collection:237 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:2	So it seems all blu-ray versions worldwide will only contain about 90% of the vertical presentation...frustrating. Now I'm just waiting to find out if the Target "digi-book" is a real one this time, or a separate book in the slip case.

10-04-2015, 06:18 PM	#1433
NzYme Senior Member Member since:Dec 2009 4K collection:39 Blu-ray collection:402 Blu-ray reviews:6	Love the mix on the DVD even though it's still a lossy track. According to the review looks as if the DTS-MA won't disappoint either.

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