Aladdin (1992) (Diamond Edition)

[FrankV]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Que the Freak Out.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DbzooE7jtiE

Nice music. Brings back memories.

[jpanimation]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

There has been several Blu-rays that present films in their theatrical aspect ratios for the first time on home video, like Star Trek VI or Austin Powers International Man of Mystery.

Yeah but they're not trying to replicate the theatrical presentation here, which makes the sudden use of the theatrical aspect ratio a weird decision. With the altered IMAX artwork, edited dialogue and missing blue castle logo, this is the home release version of the movie, and the first time the alternate home release version has been seen at 1:85:1.

If people really want the theatrical experience and have the artwork matted, then they should also want the pre-IMAX artwork, as the redone artwork, just like the open 1:66:1 aspect ratio is not authentic to the original presentation.

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Aladdin was released in IMAX in 1.66??

Unfortunately not but when it came to presenting this new IMAX edition to the world via homevideo, 1:66:1 was their choice. This Blu-ray release is the first time the IMAX cut has been matted.

[Paulo Elias]

Originally Posted by theace69

I can't believe this is has become an issue. It's a lose lose situation for Disney because either way you'd piss off different facets of people regarding the aspect ratio they would have used. So they went with the the theatrical aspect ratio which is fine by me because isn't that Blu's are for? To simulate the theater experience?

Exactly my point of view.

You guys that haven't yet seen the new Blu-Ray are disregarding comments about the picture quality, which is simply superb, regardless.

And for the record I was unable to see edge enhancements or any sort of digital filter that could degrade the picture.

[Lnds500]

Originally Posted by Hardback247

To be honest, does this whole aspect ratio "problem" really matter?

No, especially when the loss is so miniscule and the picture itself has much bigger problems than the AR.

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

How many times are we going to go through this? NO. NO! The intended AR for post-Dalmatians features IS NOT 1.33:1. They were PROTECTED for possible TV airings, the same as Aladdin. HDTV was a twinkle in some technician's eye in 1992, and in 1992, it was a 4:3 home video world, but the films were intended to be seen in theaters, not on home video.

No according to Disney's instructions at the time.

"One Hundred And One Dalmatians" 1961 Premiere Release Information:

(NOTE: The live-action featurette, "The Horse With The Flying Tail" premiered with this.)

"MR. EXHIBITOR PLEASE NOTE

Give your patrons the best possible picture on your theatre screen. For top projection results in the presentation of "One Hundred and One Dalmatians" do not exceed

ASPECT RATIO 1:33 to 1

or you will lose top and bottom of picture"

(NOTE: All DVD releases of "One Hundred and One Dalmatians" are at 1.33:1. As long as these are an open matte transfer, it would be consistent with the theatrical framing.)

They changed their minds on the re-release.

"One Hundred And One Dalmatians" 1979 Re-Release Information:

"The Aspect Ratio for a Spot-tacular Screen Image is 1.75 to 1."

(NOTE: The original theatrical framing for "One Hundred and One Dalmatians" when it premiered in 1961 was 1.33:1. Therefore, the 1.75:1 matting of this 1979 re-release is another example of the critically frowned upon theatrical re-releases of Disney animated films in improper aspect ratios.)

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Lnds500

No, especially when the loss is so miniscule and the picture itself has much bigger problems than the AR.



No according to Disney's instructions at the time.



They changed their minds on the re-release.

What part of post-Dalmatians did you not understand, Lnds?

[disneywildcat]

Originally Posted by FrankV

The chapters of the Diamond in the Rough documentary on the US and international DVD are:

11:58 The Producers – NOT ON US BLU-RAY
02:43 From Arabian Nights to the Silver Screen
03:23 Reflections on Black Friday
04:29 Keane's Team: Redesigning the Lead Character
01:54 Rough Stuff #1: Progression Reel
01:12 Rough Stuff #2: An Animator Checks His Work
01:33 Green Room - Take 1
06:53 The Music – NOT ON US BLU-RAY
04:25 "A Whole New World": The Recordinng Sessions
01:06 Rough Stuff #3: Work in Progress - "Prince Ali"
01:07 Green Room - Take 2
13:30 The Animators – NOT ON US BLU-RAY
03:10 Pencil + Computer: Creating the Magic Carpet
04:30 Master of the Line: The Art Of Al Hirschfeld
02:41 Designing Jasmine
02:08 Designing Jafar
02:24 Unsung Heroes of the Clean-Up Department
03:11 Jafar Goes to the Birds
02:41 Rough Stuff #4: When Live Action Meets Animation
02:08 Green Room - Take 3
06:28 The Voice Talents – NOT ON US BLU-RAY
10:09 You Talkin' to Me? The Voices of Aladdin - NOT ON INTERNATIONAL BLU-RAY (footage of Robin Williams recording the voice of the genie)
02:24 Gilbert Gottfried: Up Close and Aggravated
01:48 Behind The Microphone
01:23 Extended Cast Member Interviews / Scott Weinger
01:42 Extended Cast Member Interviews / Linda Larkin
01:36 Extended Cast Member Interviews / Douglas Seale
01:58 Extended Cast Member Interviews / Jonathan Freeman
01:08 The Voice Talent / Green Room - Take 4
03:46 Made You Look

That means about 40 minutes of footage was cut out of the documentary on the US Blu-ray and about 10 minutes on the international Blu-ray. The DVD is the only place where you can watch the full documentary.

I wouldn't call the Europe/Mideast BD the "International BD". Japan, much of Asia, and Latin America haven't gotten a release yet till now, and all of those countries should get the same Diamond Edition bonus features.

Either way, the US BD is a upgrade for me. Never got the Platinum Edition DVD as my family never upgraded titles we had on VHS, so can't wait to get this release.

[Dsneybuf]

Unpleasantly surprising that Disney cut out most, if not all, of the parts with Leonard Maltin interviewing the filmmakers, since they helped tie everything together.
Do I need to type a specific description of the "subliminal message" before someone can tell me whether or not Disney cut it out again? If they did put it back, does lossless audio make it any easier not to mis-hear? (I hear half of the line as the "subliminal message", and the other half as what Disney said Scott Weinger actually recorded.)

[GP Legend]

The entire, uncut Diamond in the Rough documentary is on youtube in case anyone wants to watch it.

[Mason_Ireton]

I don't mind the Leonard Maltin intros being dropped but I still would've included them. Surprised that both Voices Of Aladdin segments were dropped... Hope enough noise will rise for Disney to correct this.

Ok can somebody with in depth Hollywood knowledge Identifiy the following nods that Genie/Robin mimics in Genie Outtakes please



1:30 Mimics a game host, Genie has a humanoid face

1:38 I'm guessin Genie's bein Mr Rogers? Least that's my guess from Robin's vocal tone

2:41 I know he's mimicking a GodFather scene but Who is he?

6:08 Sport Announcer Genie refers this boxing character as Bill, yet I think he's suppose to be Muhammad Ali

6:27 Think I heard Robin use this voice in a Comic Relief sketch, recognized it from ABC's World News Robin Williams Tribute

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Dsneybuf

Unpleasantly surprising that Disney cut out most, if not all, of the parts with Leonard Maltin interviewing the filmmakers, since they helped tie everything together.
Do I need to type a specific description of the "subliminal message" before someone can tell me whether or not Disney cut it out again? If they did put it back, does lossless audio make it any easier not to mis-hear? (I hear half of the line as the "subliminal message", and the other half as what Disney said Scott Weinger actually recorded.)

*sigh*

It's so exasperating how quickly and tenaciously people fall for urban legends. Annoying, also, because even when you correct these false rumors, they sprout up again like dandelions.

[Ernest Rister]

Ed Sullivan
Mr. Rogers
2:41 is Richard Nixon
6:08 boxer character is just a type, it isn't anyone specifc, just like the "surfer dude"
6:28 is boxing promoter Don King

[Mason_Ireton]

@Ernest Rister, thanks for help, I was thinkin the host was Sullivan as well but wasn't sure, so I was right bout Mr Rogers *laughs* would've love to see that bit animated.

Yea the Genie Boxer was the only 1 that puzzled me cause the only boxers that might've worked for the 90s would've been Muhammad Ali or Hurricane (was he boxing round early 90s?)

[Dsneybuf]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

*sigh*

It's so exasperating how quickly and tenaciously people fall for urban legends. Annoying, also, because even when you correct these false rumors, they sprout up again like dandelions.

Well, I don't believe in any "subliminal message" (hence the quotes), but I still felt curious whether or not Disney did anything about the lines this time. When I had the DVD, it seemed kind of awkward that the dialogue suddenly disappeared during that part.

[Black Sabbath]

Wonder what the chances of the Best Buy exclusive cover version going to $19.99 are.

[Freddy2]

Originally Posted by Paulo Elias

And for the record I was unable to see edge enhancements or any sort of digital filter that could degrade the picture.

Just to be clear, what most are referring to as Edge Enhancement is in fact a Ringing Artifact caused by bad scaling algorithms. The original CAPS resolution is 2048x1234, so some down-scaling is necessary. But as other examples, like Beauty and the Beast or The Lion King (both CAPS), have shown, proper scaling should not introduce this ringing.
And it is definitely not in the source either. The source is CAPS and therefore there is no excuse for any flaws in the encode.
Unfortunately this encode is anything but perfect, considering the unnecessary ringing and the sloppy framing (the tiny black lines left and right).
Rather disappointing they didn't fix these mistakes, that were known for years since the European release, for this Diamond Edition.

[BootlegZani]

Originally Posted by Nailwraps

I too have a question; Is the original (Blue Castle) Disney logo intact or has it been replaced with the recent logo?

Not to be rude but why does this matter? People keep asking this. Who cares how the logo looks does that affect the film itself or this is all just nostalgia?

[BootlegZani]

Originally Posted by The_Iceflash

Only here do we complain when they release a film in its INTENDED aspect ratio.

God-forbid they actually release it as intended.

Lol.

[BootlegZani]

Originally Posted by Hardback247

To be honest, does this whole aspect ratio "problem" really matter?

No it really doesn't. These people are cynical as hell and also apparently love a specific logo for whatever reason.

[fitprod]

Originally Posted by Justadoo444

I was going off of the site's rating.
Also, I DO have TLK, and the second screen (PC/Mac) doesn't work, even you remove the S from the HTTPS of the link (It elicits an error otherwise). It needs to be fixed.

I believe it can't be fixed... At the time Disney was doing The Lion King second screen app, it was being hosted by Sony. They discontinued the contract over three years ago, thus the content is gone... Disney didn't want to go through the hassle of building a new host site and updating the BD.

Yeah, digital future!

fitprod

[Snl40boi]

Now we are complaining about the logo? Lol ok how many of us complained when Disney used the new logo instead of the original Touchtone logo on The Nightmare Before Christmas re release? Yet people still bought it, wasn't that big of a deal.