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Old 09-22-2008, 05:04 PM   #41
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Yes, of course. We have grown accustomed to this being early adopters, but the issue with what many are saying is that adoption will hurt if this sort of thing continues. Maybe the ones to blame are the studios and their releases not being backward compatible with older players?

How many times have you updated your DVD player? I have bought many SD DVD players over the years and never ONCE did I have to update firmware before being able to play a DVD I had bought.
why blame the studios and backwards compatibility? considering how technology is, you should already have expected this in the first place.

the reason why you never had to update your dvd player was because it wasnt as advance as things are nowadays.

people want bd live
people want truehd
people want pip functions.
people want free stuff blah blah blah.

how the hell can it reach the consumer without updates then?

we tend to forget the reason why we have these upgrades is because they are trying to grow and correct what needs to be done on their earlier lines. that shows a sense of responsibility on their end, and i applaud them for it.

if they didnt, guess what?!? the masses end up complaining yet AGAIN for something.

sad reality?

damned if you do, damned if you dont.

want everything for nothing. yet not want to understand, dont want to get up, yet dont remember the days they had to stand up to change the channel back in the day.
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Old 09-22-2008, 05:15 PM   #42
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Isn't there suppose to be a quality control group that makes sure that all movies play on all players?

Pretty sure it was posted here months ago.
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Old 09-22-2008, 05:54 PM   #43
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I am interested in the replacement discs that Paramount sent out to the people that got early review copies.

Has anyone that has had an issue actually recieved a retail copy? Maybe this is something that Paramount has caught and is getting addressed through them and not a firmware issue at all???
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Old 09-22-2008, 05:59 PM   #44
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The reason that many of us are having to install firmware updates is simple: we have first-and-second generation machines. The PS3 was the first 2.0 compliant product on the market, and, surprise surprise, it isn't having any of the above problems. The reason? It's ithernet link allows it to automatically download upgrades as needed, without the user being aware.

This is the price for being an early adopter. While I agree that Joe-Six-Pack will not put up with this kind of hassle, he's not buying a BD-player yet, either. The industry is anticipating having 2.0 players on the market, en masse, for this upcoming holiday season. 1.0 and 1.1 players will be deeply discounted, and it will be buyer beware. While retailers should be explaining to consumers the differences in the players their purchasing, a buyer should be asking themselves why one play is substantially cheaper than the other. I also think it would benefit the industry if they put a label on the outside of all 1.0 and 1.1 players advising buyers that a firmware update may be needed to play future releases.

In the end, this will be a blip in the history of Blu-ray, and the masses will never have had the experience, as all players will be 2.0 moving forward. Those of us who have been around a while know that this was caused by having to release the format early to compete with HD DVD, and knowing that, I would rather have gone through firmware updates for Blu-ray than have to had been stuck with "good enough" HD DVD. Just my 2-cents...
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Old 09-22-2008, 06:22 PM   #45
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You should have bought a PS3, I have NEVER had any problems with it. Software will only go so far with outdated hardware.
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Old 09-22-2008, 06:32 PM   #46
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Old 09-22-2008, 06:43 PM   #47
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Has anyone tried it (Ironman) on a 301?
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Old 09-22-2008, 07:15 PM   #48
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typical
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Old 09-22-2008, 07:29 PM   #49
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What is a son of a basket?

Do you mean, "You're a bastard from a basket."
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Old 09-22-2008, 07:58 PM   #50
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You should have bought a PS3, I have NEVER had any problems with it. Software will only go so far with outdated hardware.
Well I for one have NEVER had a problem with my S300 either, but if you read the forums you will find out that all players have had some issues, and yes that includes the PS3. (which by the way my daughter owns and is hooked up to the same TV my S300 is, and she likes the picture from the S300 better.)
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Old 09-22-2008, 08:01 PM   #51
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Exactly Monkyman. My sister has a ps3 and I have an S300. I have compared the two, and I like my s300 better. It even loads nice and fast with the new 4.20 software.
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