Will Plasma owners transition to OLED?

[Visionist]

Originally Posted by antennahead

Same here. "When" an 80" OLED that doesn't cost as much as a used car is available with matured tech, my 65" ZT60 will move to the bedroom. Is that overkill? A 65" bedroom TV?

Not at all, not at all...



I'll be getting an OLED when: A) Multiple 4K 75+ inchers are available for £4000 or less. B) The best performer of the lot is undisputed. C) The always online 4K disk player fiasco is either gone or at least nullified. D) Enough of my favourite films start releasing on 4K disc (The Dark Knight Trilogy will really have me by the teeth at that point- 4K IMAX!) E) I figure out ho I'm gonna incorporate ATMOS into the bedroom setup.

[Bluyoda]

Originally Posted by sperezmore

Plasma owner for years now

But.....

My wish,

75" - 85" OLED

Hopefully one day.

Regards,

My thoughts exactly.
Proud Kuro 5090 owner, but a bigger screen would be great.

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by Visionist

Not at all, not at all...



I'll be getting an OLED when: A) Multiple 4K 75+ inchers are available for £4000 or less. B) The best performer of the lot is undisputed. C) The always online 4K disk player fiasco is either gone or at least nullified. D) Enough of my favourite films start releasing on 4K disc (The Dark Knight Trilogy will really have me by the teeth at that point- 4K IMAX!) E) I figure out ho I'm gonna incorporate ATMOS into the bedroom setup.

Why do you and some others make size a criteria for supporting OLED ? If you own a Samsung smartphone or Tablet you know that OLED is already being implemented in small displays. I even hear the next IPhone will have OLED display. As far as I'm concerned OLED should be adopted over LED in any form as the future of display technology. PDP fans, supporters, videophiles, should support OLED technology, if not in purchases right now, verbal support or advocacy.

The thing is, the matter of resolution has (ie, 4K, 8K) has played a role in slowing the progress of OLED adoption. Basically, if you are buying a TV under 70 inches, you don't need a 4K set. However, the benefits of OLED can be obtained without need of a really large panel.

[Blu-Dog]

Originally Posted by Auditor55

Why do you and some others make size a criteria for supporting OLED ?

Probably for the same reason they want projectors. They want a bigger view. The also don't want that crazy issue people had about plasma - loud noises that greater than 60" was not feasible, though Panasonic made a 120" plasma, just to prove them wrong.


When OLED reaches the mass market - something that is probably a few years away, at current pricing - the market will be filled with people upgrading in size. A legacy of warnings will actually stunt that market, since people will be used to hearing rumors of problems making larger screens, and all of the bogus "size charts vs. distance viewed" stuff over the years.

Originally Posted by Auditor55

If you own a Samsung smartphone or Tablet you know that OLED is already being implemented in small displays. I even hear the next IPhone will have OLED display. As far as I'm concerned OLED should be adopted over LED in any form as the future of display technology. PDP fans, supporters, videophiles, should support OLED technology, if not in purchases right now, verbal support or advocacy.

True. I've been waiting for a "kuro killer" since I got one, in 2009. OLED sounds like it might be the one, but the limited size has bothered me since Sony put out a small curiosity screen a few years back. It was a technology demonstrator, but far too small, and didn't have the correct resolution for Blu-ray.


Now, there's a serious size issue. They are asking very high prices for OLED at this time, and I'm going to wait for them to get this thing organized.

Originally Posted by Auditor55

The thing is, the matter of resolution has (ie, 4K, 8K) has played a role in slowing the progress of OLED adoption. Basically, if you are buying a TV under 70 inches, you don't need a 4K set. However, the benefits of OLED can be obtained without need of a really large panel.

It appears to be far more complicated than that. The increased color gamut is a major upgrade - not just the resolution. Size is only part of the picture, even though all the foot-dragging about UHD cripples new adoption. It's still being marketed as "four times the resolution", don't fall for that.


Marketing campaigns geared to a non-technical crowd is an ancient trick, that still works. You don't have to be technical to understand it. They're only marketing it that way.


I bought into 4k with a set that is fairly large, but doesn't have HDR. I'm not moving up until they make an even larger set (mine is only 79") and OLED isn't even going near that size for the mass market.


2K is nearly gone, as it should be. There are excellent 4K sets in the $1,000 range that are 60" and below. For some, that's plenty.


For others, who want 80" or more, there's nothing wrong with waiting. Flooding the market with small set is a philosophy from tube television days, and a 55" to 60" television is the equivalent of the old 36" "behemoth" of the 70"s.


Time to go big - they can do it, but simply won't. I'll just hang around until they milk this market dry.

[Auditor55]

2K is nearly gone, as it should be. There are excellent 4K sets in the $1,000 range that are 60" and below. For some, that's plenty.

I've have seen 65 inch 4K TV's going for $1100. However, most of them have one thing in common that makes them undesirable, poor blacks. When I look at 4K TV's in the store, the colors look great, however many of them have blue or purple blacks, which makes them unacceptable for videophiles. That is where OLED comes in. Again, I would much rather have an 1080p OLED over a 4K LED set. What makes OLED expensive is the 4K resolution thing. Apparently it must cost a lot to manufacturer OLED TV's with 4K resolution. I think if we had 75 inch 1080p OLED sets, they would still blow away 75 4K LED sets. A 75 inch 1080p OLED set would be cheaper than one with, in my opinion, useless 4K resolution. A 1080p OLED set with wide color gamut and HDR would be fine.

[Dean L]

Originally Posted by Auditor55

I think if we had 75 inch 1080p OLED sets, they would still blow away 75 4K LED sets. A 75 inch 1080p OLED set would be cheaper than one with, in my opinion, useless 4K resolution. A 1080p OLED set with wide color gamut and HDR would be fine.

My thinking too!!!

[Midnight Rambler]

Originally Posted by Blu-Dog

Flooding the market with small set is a philosophy from tube television days, and a 55" to 60" television is the equivalent of the old 36" "behemoth" of the 70"s.

I assume you're referring to RPTV's, as CRT's were nowhere near that size. And I don't recall ever knowing anyone who had a RPTV, they were mostly the domain of very high-end users. Most people, at best, had a 19" or 25" CRT. I don't think we went to > 25 in. CRT's until late 80's/early90's ?

Only point being, it cracks me up when people today refer to a 50 or 60 inch TV as "small".

[Suntory_Times]

Originally Posted by Midnight Rambler

I assume you're referring to RPTV's, as CRT's were nowhere near that size. And I don't recall ever knowing anyone who had a RPTV, they were mostly the domain of very high-end users. Most people, at best, had a 19" or 25" CRT. I don't think we went to > 25 in. CRT's until late 80's/early90's ?

Only point being, it cracks me up when people today refer to a 50 or 60 inch TV as "small".

Times change. For many film enthusiasts wanting to have a cinema like experience 50" is indeed to small.

[hanshotfirst1138]

Well, when my plasma dies, I guess I'll have to .

[rubystone356]

Originally Posted by Suntory_Times

Times change. For many film enthusiasts wanting to have a cinema like experience 50" is indeed to small.

a 50 inch is considered small when you go the projector route. which is what I did. I had the gt25 plasma. now I have a gt1080 optoma projector.
its 144 inches width. 162 diagonal.
Jacob

[OldFool]

I am very satisfied with my 60ZT60. Although unprofessionally calibrated by me using Disney's WOW, it still remains the best picture I've ever seen on any TV. I have no plans on replacing it unless it dies, hopefully it will outlast me!