List of International BDs with Better PQ, AQ, and/or More Extras - Page 124 - Blu-ray Forum

Bluyoda · 01-25-2016, 06:08 PM

Btw., I can't find the Columbo TV series on amazon.de..
Is it really available on BD, or is it just the Columbo movie?
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PuppetMasterBlu · 01-25-2016, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Sleepy Hollow is a tough one. Many think the JP disc is better than the U.S., but the colors have always looked off to me and it's 1080i.

Yeah I have the UK Sleepy Hollow and I prefer that.

HD Goofnut · 01-25-2016, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by PuppetMasterBlu

Yeah I have the UK Sleepy Hollow and I prefer that.

Right, the U.K. disc has AVC instead of MPEG-2 and lossless audio, but drops the extras found on the U.S. disc. Besides both use the same antiquated master.

HD Goofnut · 01-25-2016, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by appsare

bump

The DE disc of The Kentucky Fried Movie has slightly better compression than the US disc: http://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=704...0&a=1&go=0&l=1

wesslan · 01-29-2016, 10:11 PM

Ok here goes... many updates made and maybe even some title don't belong but post it all anyways and you can decide. There are probably still some small errors here and there but VERY hard to find complete specs for the rest. And yes I put ???? marks everywhere to make it easy to see what we are missing. Now you all can do the rest....

Saw
US - MPEG-2 1.78:1 23925 kbps, DTS-ES 6.1 1509 kbps 24-bit, unrated director's cut @ 102m46s, English subs (Region free)
US (Complete Movie Collection) - AVC 1.78:1 29956 kbps, DD 5.1-EX 640 kbps 24-bit, unrated director's cut @ 102m46s, English subs (Region free)
UK - VC-1 1.78:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 ???? kbps ??-bit, unrated director's cut @ 102m45s, extras in SD, English subs (Region B locked) *upscale*
IT - AVC 1.78:1 ????? kbps, Dolby TrueHD 5.1 ???? kbps ??-bit, unrated director's cut @ 103 min, no English subs (Region B locked)
DE - VC-1 1.85:1 23417 kbps, DTS-HD HR 7.1 2046 kbps 16-bit, unrated director's cut @ 102m46s, more extras, no English subs (Region free)
FR - VC-1 1.85:1 24.92 Mbps, DTS-HD MA 6.1 ???? kbps 16-bit, unrated director's cut @ 102m45s, no English subs (Region B locked)
JP - AVC 1.85:1 30709 kbps, Dolby TrueHD 5.1-EX 1899 kbps 24-bit, r-rated theatrical @ 103m11s, English subs (Region free) Sony OOP disc

Saw II
US - MPEG-2 1.78:1 23150 kbps, DTS-HD HR 6.1 3039 kbps 24-bit, unrated @ 94m32s, English subs (Region free)
US (Complete Movie Collection) - AVC 1.78:1 30000 kbps, DD 5.1-EX 640 kbps, unrated @ 94m32s, English subs (Region free)
UK - VC-1 1.78:1 1080i 50hz ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 ??-bit, r-rated theatrical @ 88m56s, English subs (Region B locked)
DE - VC-1 1.85:1 24901 kbps, DTS-HD HR 7.1 3018 kbps 16-bit, unrated @ 94m34s, more extras, no English subs (Region B locked)
FR - VC-1 1.85:1 24.85 Mbps, DTS-HD MA 6.1 2440 kbps 16-bit, unrated @ 94m42s, no English subs (Region B locked)
JP - AVC 1.85:1 30997 kbps, Dolby TrueHD 5.1-EX 2234 kbps 24-bit, r-rated theatrical @ 92m46s, English subs (Region free) Sony OOP disc

Saw III
US - MPEG-2 1.78:1 open matte 16682 kbps, DTS-HD HR 6.1 3039 kbps 24-bit, unrated @ 113m44s, English subs (Region A locked)
US (Complete Movie Collection) - MPEG-2 1.78:1 open matte 16682 kbps, DD 5.1-EX 640 kbps, unrated @ 113m44s, English subs (Region free)
UK - MPEG-2 1.78:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD HR 6.1 ???? kbps ??-bit, unrated @ 113m44s, some extras in SD, English subs (Region B locked)
IT - VC-1 1.85:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 ???? kbps 16-bit, r-rated @ 108m17s, English subs (Region ?)
SE - VC-1 1.85:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD HR 6.1 3018 kbps 16-bit, unrated @ 113m46s, extras in SD, no English subs (Region free)
DE - VC-1 1.85:1 19474 kbps, DTS-HD HR 7.1 3018 kbps 16-bit, unrated @ 113m46s, no English subs (Region free)
AT - AVC 1.85:1 25991 kbps, DTS-HD HR 7.1 2998 kbps 16-bit, director's cut @ 120m42s, no English subs (region B locked) *Final Edition*
FR - VC-1 1.78:1 24896 kbps, DTS-HD MA 6.1 2639 Kbps 16-bit, director's cut @ 120m49s, extras in SD and forced french subs, no English subs (Region B locked)
JP - AVC 1.85:1 32820 kbps, Dolby TrueHD 6.1 2061 kbps 16-bit, unrated @ 113m43s, English subs (Region free) Sony OOP disc

Saw IV
US - AVC 1.78:1 16999 kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 5566 kbps 24-bit, unrated director's cut @ 95m31s, English subs (Region A locked)
UK - AVC 1.85:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 ???? kbps 24-bit, unrated director's cut @ 95m31s, English subs (Region B locked)
DE - VC-1 1.85:1 23941 kbps, DTS-HD HR 7.1 3018 kbps 16-bit, unrated @ 83 min?, no English subs (Region B locked)
NL - VC-1 1.85:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 ???? kbps ??-bit, r-rated theatrical @ 92m35s, different extras, no English subs (Region B locked)
FR - AVC 1.85:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 ???? kbps 16-bit, unrated director's cut @ 95m31s, no English subs (Region B locked)
JP - AVC 1.85:1 34125 kbps, Dolby TrueHD 7.1 2348 kbps 16-bit, unrated director's cut @ 95m28s, English subs (Region free) Sony OOP disc

Saw V
US - AVC 1.78:1 20997 kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 5050 kbps 24-bit, unrated director's cut @ 95m03s, English subs (Region A locked)
UK - AVC 1.85:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 ???? kbps 24-bit, unrated director's cut @ 95 min, English subs (Region B locked)
IT - VC-1 1.78:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 ???? kbps 16-bit, r-rated theatrical @ 92m12s, English subs (Region ?)
DE - VC-1 1.85:1 23978 kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 2016 kbps 16-bit, unrated director's cut @ 95m04s, most extras, no English subs (Region B locked)
FR - VC-1 1.85:1 23934 kbps, DTS-HD MA 6.1 2504 kbps 16-bit, unrated director's cut @ 95m14s, no English subs (Region B locked)
JP - AVC 1.85:1 30.59 Mbps, Dolby TrueHD 7.1 ???? kbps 24-bit, unrated director's cut @ 95 min, English subs (Region free)

Saw VI
US - AVC 1.78:1 17999 kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 5318 kbps 24-bit, unrated director´s cut @ 91m40s, English subs (Region A locked)
UK - AVC 1.78:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 ???? kbps ??-bit, unrated director´s cut @ 91m40s, English subs (Region B locked)
IT - AVC 1.85:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 ???? kbps 16-bit, r-rated theatrical @ 87m04s, no English subs
DE - VC-1 1.78:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 ???? kbps 16-bit, r-rated theatrical @ 88 min?, no English subs (Region B locked)
FR - AVC 1.78:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 6.1 ???? kbps 16-bit, unrated director´s cut @ 91m49s, no English subs (Region B locked)
JP - AVC 1.85:1 ????? kbps, Dolby TrueHD 7.1 ???? kbps 24-bit, English subs (Region A locked)

Saw 3D aka Saw: The Final Chapter aka Saw VII
US - AVC 1.78:1 26998 kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 5550 kbps 24-bit, unrated @ 90m11s, English subs (Region A locked) 2D and 2D+3D
UK - AVC 1.78:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 ???? kbps 24-bit, unrated @ 90m11s, English subs (Region B locked) 2D+3D
SE - MVC 1.78:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 ???? kbps ??-bit, unrated @ 90m10s, no English subs (Region ?) 2D+3D
SP - AVC 1.85:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 ???? kbps ??-bit, r-rated theatrical @ 90 min, no English subs
DE - VC-1 1.78:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 ???? kbps 16-bit, no English subs (Region B locked)
FR - AVC 1.85:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 ???? kbps 16-bit, unrated @ 90m26s, no English subs, less extras (Region B locked)

Cevolution · 01-29-2016, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by wesslan

Saw 3D aka Saw: The Final Chapter aka Saw VII
US - AVC 1.78:1 26998 kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 5550 kbps 24-bit, unrated @ 90m11s, English subs (Region A locked) 2D and 2D+3D
UK - AVC 1.78:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 ???? kbps 24-bit, unrated @ 90m11s, English subs (Region B locked) 2D+3D
SE - MVC 1.78:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 ???? kbps ??-bit, unrated @ 90m10s, no English subs (Region ?) 2D+3D
SP - AVC 1.85:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 ???? kbps ??-bit, r-rated theatrical @ 90 min, no English subs
DE - VC-1 1.78:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 ???? kbps 16-bit, no English subs (Region B locked)
FR - AVC 1.85:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 ???? kbps 16-bit, unrated @ 90m26s, no English subs, less extras (Region B locked)

I own the Australian Sony disc for this, which I can confirm has high bitrate. According to the database 41.00Mbps, which was submitted by Atexp80, so it should be accurate:

Ben_R · 01-29-2016, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wesslan

[Show spoiler]

Thanks

Loads of work gone into that list but it blurs before my eyes

Which are the versions to own with the best PQ AQ and uncut?

Cevolution · 01-29-2016, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wesslan

Saw 3D aka Saw: The Final Chapter aka Saw VII

US - AVC 1.78:1 26998 kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 5550 kbps 24-bit, unrated @ 90m11s, English subs (Region A locked) 2D and 2D+3D
UK - AVC 1.78:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 ???? kbps 24-bit, unrated @ 90m11s, English subs (Region B locked) 2D+3D
SE - MVC 1.78:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 ???? kbps ??-bit, unrated @ 90m10s, no English subs (Region ?) 2D+3D
SP - AVC 1.85:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 ???? kbps ??-bit, r-rated theatrical @ 90 min, no English subs
DE - VC-1 1.78:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 ???? kbps 16-bit, no English subs (Region B locked)
FR - AVC 1.85:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 ???? kbps 16-bit, unrated @ 90m26s, no English subs, less extras (Region B locked)

The bitrate for the U.S release on the list doesn't match up with the entry in the database, which says 35.00 Mbps:

Which is correct?

Does the U.S 2D only disc have a higher AVC bitrate than the 3D disc? Or is the 35.00 Mbps bitrate meant to be for the 3D release, combining the AVC and MVC birates, but was accidentally put against the 2D only release?

PuppetMasterBlu · 01-30-2016, 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Right, the U.K. disc has AVC instead of MPEG-2 and lossless audio, but drops the extras found on the U.S. disc. Besides both use the same antiquated master.

Right but it has different colors than the JP edition that you said looked off.

Cevolution · 01-30-2016, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by wesslan

Saw VI
US - AVC 1.78:1 17999 kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 5318 kbps 24-bit, unrated director´s cut @ 91m40s, English subs (Region A locked)
UK - AVC 1.78:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 ???? kbps ??-bit, unrated director´s cut @ 91m40s, English subs (Region B locked)
IT - AVC 1.85:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 ???? kbps 16-bit, r-rated theatrical @ 87m04s, no English subs
DE - VC-1 1.78:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 ???? kbps 16-bit, r-rated theatrical @ 88 min?, no English subs (Region B locked)
FR - AVC 1.78:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 6.1 ???? kbps 16-bit, unrated director´s cut @ 91m49s, no English subs (Region B locked)
JP - AVC 1.85:1 ????? kbps, Dolby TrueHD 7.1 ???? kbps 24-bit, English subs (Region A locked)

I checked the Japanese Saw VI disc a short while ago, these are the specs:

AVC, 1.78:1, English DTS-HD MA 7.1, English subs, (region A locked)

knifethrower · 01-30-2016, 10:12 AM

Correction for Heavenly Creatures Canadian, it should be noted that the current listing is for the 2011 BD/DVD combo edition which is 1080p and also keeps the theatrical scope ratio (identical encode to the OOP US Lionsgate release).

The 2010 Canadian release uses an older 1080i open-matte 16:9 master.

Code:

2010 Canadian Release

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00005.MPLS
Length:                 1:48:48 (h:m:s)
Size:                   17 938 280 448 bytes
Total Bitrate:          21,98 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        19611 kbps          1080i / 29,970 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Dolby Digital Audio             English         640 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio             French          640 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -4dB

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         1,332 kbps

wesslan · 01-30-2016, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cevolution

The bitrate for the U.S release on the list doesn't match up with the entry in the database, which says 35.00 Mbps:

Which is correct?

Does the U.S 2D only disc have a higher AVC bitrate than the 3D disc? Or is the 35.00 Mbps bitrate meant to be for the 3D release, combining the AVC and MVC birates, but was accidentally put against the 2D only release?

I don't see any 2D bitrates on here only 3D with 35 Mbit that doesn't say anything since 3D isn't using avc alone but mvc so I'll take that as incorrect for now. And with a correct scan on BDinfo you never can get 35.00 Mbps as result. It would read maybe 34998 kbps or something so that's why you can't take anything just written on this database as it's often early/wrong.

The correct 3D specs for NOR disc as an example is:
Disc Title: SAW 7 3D
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 26278 kbps / 1080p / 23,976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Video: MPEG-4 MVC Video / 13829 kbps /

Another I have is:
Disc Title: SAW_7_3D
MPEG-4 AVC Video 18500 kbps 1080p / 23,976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
MPEG-4 MVC Video 9415 kbps

The one I'm basing my numbers on is this one:

MPEG-4 AVC Video 26998 kbps 1080p / 23,976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS-HD Master Audio English 5550 kbps 7.1 / 48 kHz / 5550 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio French 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio English 224 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround
Dolby Digital Audio English 224 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics English 29,570 kbps
Presentation Graphics English 33,648 kbps
Presentation Graphics Spanish 27,891 kbps

And since I myself prefer 2D and all other Saw is 2D that's the bitrates I hunt

wesslan · 01-30-2016, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cevolution

I checked the Japanese Saw VI disc a short while ago, these are the specs:

AVC, 1.78:1, English DTS-HD MA 7.1, English subs, (region A locked)

Ah seems Sony Japan got out of Saw business after 1-5 then since they often use TrueHD. Nice to have some more info, now we only need those BDinfo bitrates

wesslan · 01-30-2016, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben_R

Thanks

Loads of work gone into that list but it blurs before my eyes

Which are the versions to own with the best PQ AQ and uncut?

Haha thank you. It was a hassle :P Well, easy and cheap, the french boxset I would say. It has the overall best quality if you take price into account and uncut status. The real comparison I would like to see is that new Austrian Final Edition boxset vs the french. Those are the only two with that special directors cut on Saw 3 but I think the french is the only with lossless audio on all so I probably lean to french anyways

PQ wise the JP discs is amazing but you loose on the r-rated status there for some of the titles I found out just recently.

If someone really like the Saw movies and want to add some more info to the list, here you will find more details on extras and such. http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/search.php

wesslan · 01-30-2016, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cevolution

I own the Australian Sony disc for this, which I can confirm has high bitrate. According to the database 41.00Mbps, which was submitted by Atexp80, so it should be accurate:

Sorry but no blu-ray can have 41.00 Mbps as average video bitrate. Too high for the blu-ray specifications. That's why BDinfo is the only way to get correct data.

HD Goofnut · 01-30-2016, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knifethrower

Correction for Heavenly Creatures Canadian, it should be noted that the current listing is for the 2011 BD/DVD combo edition which is 1080p and also keeps the theatrical scope ratio (identical encode to the OOP US Lionsgate release).

[Show spoiler]

Fixed. I added re-release to CA release. I also updated the Saw entries.

Cevolution · 01-30-2016, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wesslan

I don't see any 2D bitrates on here only 3D with 35 Mbit that doesn't say anything since 3D isn't using avc alone but mvc so I'll take that as incorrect for now. And with a correct scan on BDinfo you never can get 35.00 Mbps as result. It would read maybe 34998 kbps or something so that's why you can't take anything just written on this database as it's often early/wrong.

Sometimes some members simply round the bitrates off when they enter them into the database. The U.S version I linked to with the 35.00 Mbps bitrate was the 2D only version. The U.S 3D entry doesn't have a video bitrate listed against it in the database. I don't take anything that is listed in the database as fact until I can confirm the info myself, or I know and trust the member who entered the specs. However, if there are specs listed, in this case a 35.00 Mbps bitrate, it came from someone, and I am curious where they got this info from and whether it is correct or not. If the 26998 kbps bitrate for the U.S disc that you posted is correct, is this for the AVC stream only? If not, then it's a little low for a 3D release. As far as I'm aware, when you enter a bitrate for a 3D release into the database, you are meant to combine the AVC and MVC bitrates together. My thought process was that the 35.00 Mbps bitrate might have been meant for the U.S 3D release but was accidentally submitted against the 2D release, because if the 26998 Kbps bitrate you posted is the AVC only, with the MVC bitrate added to it should be somewhere around 35.00 Mbps.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wesslan

Ah seems Sony Japan got out of Saw business after 1-5 then since they often use TrueHD. Nice to have some more info, now we only need those BDinfo bitrates

There is a Dolby TrueHD 5.1 track on the disc for the Japanese track.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wesslan

Sorry but no blu-ray can have 41.00 Mbps as average video bitrate. Too high for the blu-ray specifications. That's why BDinfo is the only way to get correct data.

The 41.00 Mbps would be the AVC and MVC bitrates combined. The member who submitted that bitrate uses BDinfo.

kidglov3s · 01-31-2016, 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wesslan

Haha thank you. It was a hassle :P Well, easy and cheap, the french boxset I would say. It has the overall best quality if you take price into account and uncut status. The real comparison I would like to see is that new Austrian Final Edition boxset vs the french. Those are the only two with that special directors cut on Saw 3 but I think the french is the only with lossless audio on all so I probably lean to french anyways

PQ wise the JP discs is amazing but you loose on the r-rated status there for some of the titles I found out just recently.

If someone really like the Saw movies and want to add some more info to the list, here you will find more details on extras and such. http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/search.php

I ended up just today, having been inspired by a lot of the posts between you and Cevolution lately, after making and cancelling about 50 different orders on Amazons all across the globe, ordering:

Saw Quadrilogy - JP
(I went with this over the big FR set as I prefer the unrated Saw III and this is the only disc that has it in great quality, these will be my go to discs for all four of these movies)

Saw I - V - DE
(This was the most economically efficient way for me to supplement I/II with quality presentations of the unrated cuts and all the extras. Saw II has a cheap FR disc listed on Amazon but any way I found to add Saw to that came out quite a bit more than this set with I/II uncut with all extras, VC-1, DTS HD-HR)

Saw V, VI - US
(To upgrade to lossless for these from that cheap set, whatever drawbacks these discs have I'm fine living with, at least at this point)

I can't imagine I won't be happy with this combo added to my DVD of the Saw III director's cut (a curiosity for me not, at least at this point, throwing the $15-$20 minimum to upgrade to BD) and Saw 3D Ca I got a few weeks ago.

I can't wait to watch all the Saw movies with lossless audio and Saw III with a solid video presentation.

wesslan · 01-31-2016, 07:13 AM

Update on runtime for JP Saw V-VI and audiocodec on VI from Cevolution

Saw V
US - AVC 1.78:1 20997 kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 5050 kbps 24-bit, unrated director's cut @ 95m03s, English subs (Region A locked)
UK - AVC 1.85:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 ???? kbps 24-bit, unrated director's cut @ 95 min, English subs (Region B locked)
IT - VC-1 1.78:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 ???? kbps 16-bit, r-rated theatrical @ 92m12s, English subs (Region ?)
DE - VC-1 1.85:1 23978 kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 2016 kbps 16-bit, unrated director's cut @ 95m04s, most extras, no English subs (Region B locked)
FR - VC-1 1.85:1 23934 kbps, DTS-HD MA 6.1 2504 kbps 16-bit, unrated director's cut @ 95m14s, no English subs (Region B locked)
JP - AVC 1.85:1 30.59 Mbps, Dolby TrueHD 7.1 ???? kbps 24-bit, unrated director's cut @ 95m02s, English subs (Region free)

Saw VI
US - AVC 1.78:1 17999 kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 5318 kbps 24-bit, unrated director´s cut @ 91m40s, English subs (Region A locked)
UK - AVC 1.78:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 ???? kbps ??-bit, unrated director´s cut @ 91m40s, English subs (Region B locked)
IT - AVC 1.85:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 ???? kbps 16-bit, r-rated theatrical @ 87m04s, no English subs
DE - VC-1 1.78:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 ???? kbps 16-bit, r-rated theatrical @ 88 min?, no English subs (Region B locked)
FR - AVC 1.78:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 6.1 ???? kbps 16-bit, unrated director´s cut @ 91m49s, no English subs (Region B locked)
JP - AVC 1.78:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 ???? kbps ??-bit, unrated director´s cut @ 91m38s, English subs (Region A locked)

wesslan · 01-31-2016, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kidglov3s

I ended up just today, having been inspired by a lot of the posts between you and Cevolution lately, after making and cancelling about 50 different orders on Amazons all across the globe, ordering:

Saw Quadrilogy - JP
(I went with this over the big FR set as I prefer the unrated Saw III and this is the only disc that has it in great quality, these will be my go to discs for all four of these movies)

Saw I - V - DE
(This was the most economically efficient way for me to supplement I/II with quality presentations of the unrated cuts and all the extras. Saw II has a cheap FR disc listed on Amazon but any way I found to add Saw to that came out quite a bit more than this set with I/II uncut with all extras, VC-1, DTS HD-HR)

Saw V, VI - US
(To upgrade to lossless for these from that cheap set, whatever drawbacks these discs have I'm fine living with, at least at this point)

I can't imagine I won't be happy with this combo added to my DVD of the Saw III director's cut (a curiosity for me not, at least at this point, throwing the $15-$20 minimum to upgrade to BD) and Saw 3D Ca I got a few weeks ago.

I can't wait to watch all the Saw movies with lossless audio and Saw III with a solid video presentation.

Nice one

I love my JP Saw Quadrilogy because of the outstanding PQ.

But for V-VI you really should add JP or maybe some other disc with lossless 7.1 because the US disc is pretty low bitrate compared. JP V is cheap on amazon, ordered it myself a day ago

VI is OOP and second hand only.

And I don't like the directors cut version of III myself either, prefer Unrated.

01-25-2016, 06:08 PM	#2461
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01-29-2016, 10:11 PM	#2465
wesslan Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2010 Location:Sweden Blu-ray reviews:1	Ok here goes... many updates made and maybe even some title don't belong but post it all anyways and you can decide. There are probably still some small errors here and there but VERY hard to find complete specs for the rest. And yes I put ???? marks everywhere to make it easy to see what we are missing. Now you all can do the rest.... Saw US - MPEG-2 1.78:1 23925 kbps, DTS-ES 6.1 1509 kbps 24-bit, unrated director's cut @ 102m46s, English subs (Region free) US (Complete Movie Collection) - AVC 1.78:1 29956 kbps, DD 5.1-EX 640 kbps 24-bit, unrated director's cut @ 102m46s, English subs (Region free) UK - VC-1 1.78:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 ???? kbps ??-bit, unrated director's cut @ 102m45s, extras in SD, English subs (Region B locked) upscale IT - AVC 1.78:1 ????? kbps, Dolby TrueHD 5.1 ???? kbps ??-bit, unrated director's cut @ 103 min, no English subs (Region B locked) DE - VC-1 1.85:1 23417 kbps, DTS-HD HR 7.1 2046 kbps 16-bit, unrated director's cut @ 102m46s, more extras, no English subs (Region free) FR - VC-1 1.85:1 24.92 Mbps, DTS-HD MA 6.1 ???? kbps 16-bit, unrated director's cut @ 102m45s, no English subs (Region B locked) JP - AVC 1.85:1 30709 kbps, Dolby TrueHD 5.1-EX 1899 kbps 24-bit, r-rated theatrical @ 103m11s, English subs (Region free) Sony OOP disc Saw II US - MPEG-2 1.78:1 23150 kbps, DTS-HD HR 6.1 3039 kbps 24-bit, unrated @ 94m32s, English subs (Region free) US (Complete Movie Collection) - AVC 1.78:1 30000 kbps, DD 5.1-EX 640 kbps, unrated @ 94m32s, English subs (Region free) UK - VC-1 1.78:1 1080i 50hz ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 ??-bit, r-rated theatrical @ 88m56s, English subs (Region B locked) DE - VC-1 1.85:1 24901 kbps, DTS-HD HR 7.1 3018 kbps 16-bit, unrated @ 94m34s, more extras, no English subs (Region B locked) FR - VC-1 1.85:1 24.85 Mbps, DTS-HD MA 6.1 2440 kbps 16-bit, unrated @ 94m42s, no English subs (Region B locked) JP - AVC 1.85:1 30997 kbps, Dolby TrueHD 5.1-EX 2234 kbps 24-bit, r-rated theatrical @ 92m46s, English subs (Region free) Sony OOP disc Saw III US - MPEG-2 1.78:1 open matte 16682 kbps, DTS-HD HR 6.1 3039 kbps 24-bit, unrated @ 113m44s, English subs (Region A locked) US (Complete Movie Collection) - MPEG-2 1.78:1 open matte 16682 kbps, DD 5.1-EX 640 kbps, unrated @ 113m44s, English subs (Region free) UK - MPEG-2 1.78:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD HR 6.1 ???? kbps ??-bit, unrated @ 113m44s, some extras in SD, English subs (Region B locked) IT - VC-1 1.85:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 ???? kbps 16-bit, r-rated @ 108m17s, English subs (Region ?) SE - VC-1 1.85:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD HR 6.1 3018 kbps 16-bit, unrated @ 113m46s, extras in SD, no English subs (Region free) DE - VC-1 1.85:1 19474 kbps, DTS-HD HR 7.1 3018 kbps 16-bit, unrated @ 113m46s, no English subs (Region free) AT - AVC 1.85:1 25991 kbps, DTS-HD HR 7.1 2998 kbps 16-bit, director's cut @ 120m42s, no English subs (region B locked) Final Edition FR - VC-1 1.78:1 24896 kbps, DTS-HD MA 6.1 2639 Kbps 16-bit, director's cut @ 120m49s, extras in SD and forced french subs, no English subs (Region B locked) JP - AVC 1.85:1 32820 kbps, Dolby TrueHD 6.1 2061 kbps 16-bit, unrated @ 113m43s, English subs (Region free) Sony OOP disc Saw IV US - AVC 1.78:1 16999 kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 5566 kbps 24-bit, unrated director's cut @ 95m31s, English subs (Region A locked) UK - AVC 1.85:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 ???? kbps 24-bit, unrated director's cut @ 95m31s, English subs (Region B locked) DE - VC-1 1.85:1 23941 kbps, DTS-HD HR 7.1 3018 kbps 16-bit, unrated @ 83 min?, no English subs (Region B locked) NL - VC-1 1.85:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 ???? kbps ??-bit, r-rated theatrical @ 92m35s, different extras, no English subs (Region B locked) FR - AVC 1.85:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 ???? kbps 16-bit, unrated director's cut @ 95m31s, no English subs (Region B locked) JP - AVC 1.85:1 34125 kbps, Dolby TrueHD 7.1 2348 kbps 16-bit, unrated director's cut @ 95m28s, English subs (Region free) Sony OOP disc Saw V US - AVC 1.78:1 20997 kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 5050 kbps 24-bit, unrated director's cut @ 95m03s, English subs (Region A locked) UK - AVC 1.85:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 ???? kbps 24-bit, unrated director's cut @ 95 min, English subs (Region B locked) IT - VC-1 1.78:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 ???? kbps 16-bit, r-rated theatrical @ 92m12s, English subs (Region ?) DE - VC-1 1.85:1 23978 kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 2016 kbps 16-bit, unrated director's cut @ 95m04s, most extras, no English subs (Region B locked) FR - VC-1 1.85:1 23934 kbps, DTS-HD MA 6.1 2504 kbps 16-bit, unrated director's cut @ 95m14s, no English subs (Region B locked) JP - AVC 1.85:1 30.59 Mbps, Dolby TrueHD 7.1 ???? kbps 24-bit, unrated director's cut @ 95 min, English subs (Region free) Saw VI US - AVC 1.78:1 17999 kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 5318 kbps 24-bit, unrated director´s cut @ 91m40s, English subs (Region A locked) UK - AVC 1.78:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 ???? kbps ??-bit, unrated director´s cut @ 91m40s, English subs (Region B locked) IT - AVC 1.85:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 ???? kbps 16-bit, r-rated theatrical @ 87m04s, no English subs DE - VC-1 1.78:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 ???? kbps 16-bit, r-rated theatrical @ 88 min?, no English subs (Region B locked) FR - AVC 1.78:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 6.1 ???? kbps 16-bit, unrated director´s cut @ 91m49s, no English subs (Region B locked) JP - AVC 1.85:1 ????? kbps, Dolby TrueHD 7.1 ???? kbps 24-bit, English subs (Region A locked) Saw 3D aka Saw: The Final Chapter aka Saw VII US - AVC 1.78:1 26998 kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 5550 kbps 24-bit, unrated @ 90m11s, English subs (Region A locked) 2D and 2D+3D UK - AVC 1.78:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 ???? kbps 24-bit, unrated @ 90m11s, English subs (Region B locked) 2D+3D SE - MVC 1.78:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 ???? kbps ??-bit, unrated @ 90m10s, no English subs (Region ?) 2D+3D SP - AVC 1.85:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 ???? kbps ??-bit, r-rated theatrical @ 90 min, no English subs DE - VC-1 1.78:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 ???? kbps 16-bit, no English subs (Region B locked) FR - AVC 1.85:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 ???? kbps 16-bit, unrated @ 90m26s, no English subs, less extras (Region B locked)

01-31-2016, 07:13 AM	#2479
wesslan Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2010 Location:Sweden Blu-ray reviews:1	Update on runtime for JP Saw V-VI and audiocodec on VI from Cevolution Saw V US - AVC 1.78:1 20997 kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 5050 kbps 24-bit, unrated director's cut @ 95m03s, English subs (Region A locked) UK - AVC 1.85:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 ???? kbps 24-bit, unrated director's cut @ 95 min, English subs (Region B locked) IT - VC-1 1.78:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 ???? kbps 16-bit, r-rated theatrical @ 92m12s, English subs (Region ?) DE - VC-1 1.85:1 23978 kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 2016 kbps 16-bit, unrated director's cut @ 95m04s, most extras, no English subs (Region B locked) FR - VC-1 1.85:1 23934 kbps, DTS-HD MA 6.1 2504 kbps 16-bit, unrated director's cut @ 95m14s, no English subs (Region B locked) JP - AVC 1.85:1 30.59 Mbps, Dolby TrueHD 7.1 ???? kbps 24-bit, unrated director's cut @ 95m02s, English subs (Region free) Saw VI US - AVC 1.78:1 17999 kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 5318 kbps 24-bit, unrated director´s cut @ 91m40s, English subs (Region A locked) UK - AVC 1.78:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 ???? kbps ??-bit, unrated director´s cut @ 91m40s, English subs (Region B locked) IT - AVC 1.85:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 ???? kbps 16-bit, r-rated theatrical @ 87m04s, no English subs DE - VC-1 1.78:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 ???? kbps 16-bit, r-rated theatrical @ 88 min?, no English subs (Region B locked) FR - AVC 1.78:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 6.1 ???? kbps 16-bit, unrated director´s cut @ 91m49s, no English subs (Region B locked) JP - AVC 1.78:1 ????? kbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 ???? kbps ??-bit, unrated director´s cut @ 91m38s, English subs (Region A locked)

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