Darkman (1990) Steelbook (Koch Media) (Germany) - Blu-ray Forum

Oscar Rothman · 03-30-2014, 04:50 PM

Darkman (1990) Steelbook Koch Media Germany

Release Date: Jun. 06, 2014

Purchase Link:

Amazon DE

Artwork:

*PREACHER* · 03-30-2014, 07:28 PM

[Show spoiler]

Claimed!!!

Oscar Rothman · 04-18-2014, 01:55 PM

Amazon.de pre-order is live http://www.amazon.de/Darkman-Steelbo...och+Media+GmbH

Jondog21 · 04-18-2014, 02:42 PM

Guess I should add this info to all the Koch wave threads

MK50 over on HDN has reported the following:

"KOCH Media has confirmed the following (for the entire wave!):
Steelbook, NOT Stickerbook
FSK Logo is a Sticker
NO inside artwork
Printed infos on the back"

sarah_wentworth · 09-02-2014, 04:09 PM

does this movie work on canadian blu ray player? thanks

brian9229 · 09-02-2014, 06:26 PM

Ive never in over 20 years seen any other art for this movie, does it exsist?

Smigro · 09-02-2014, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sarah_wentworth

does this movie work on canadian blu ray player? thanks

I think most Koch BD's are region locked but I could be wrong.

sarah_wentworth · 09-03-2014, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Smigro

I think most Koch BD's are region locked but I could be wrong.

thanks. it looks so much better than the Shout Factory blu ray. wish i could buy it.

UniSol GR77 · 05-15-2015, 12:43 AM

I've heard this is the best relase, no grain-scrubbing or heavy DNR. Right?

Batmobilly666 · 05-15-2015, 06:12 AM

There's less DNR. Which makes teh edge enhancement more obvious, though.

UniSol GR77 · 01-24-2016, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Batmobilly666

There's less DNR. Which makes teh edge enhancement more obvious, though.

Is this meaning that they used the untampered HD file to begin with?

Batmobilly666 · 01-25-2016, 08:31 AM

I'm not sure what you mean by "untampered HD file". It's likely sourced from the same old DVD transfer with less DNR applied. Which one is "better" is hard to say and a matter of taste; I'd say they are equally bad but in a different way.

You can compare some screencaps here.

UniSol GR77 · 01-25-2016, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Batmobilly666

I'm not sure what you mean by "untampered HD file". It's likely sourced from the same old DVD transfer with less DNR applied. Which one is "better" is hard to say and a matter of taste; I'd say they are equally bad but in a different way.

You can compare some screencaps here.

I mean: I think UNIVERSAL provided KOCH MEDIA with the original HD transfer not tampered with DNR and Post-Production. The uncontaminated, archivial HD file so to speak.

Batmobilly666 · 01-25-2016, 11:31 AM

There's still ugly artificial sharpening so I certainly wouldn't call it "untempered". I don't know if such a thing even exists for Darkman, I'd bet the edge enhancement was baked in for the DVD mastering and nothing else exists.

UniSol GR77 · 01-25-2016, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Batmobilly666

There's still ugly artificial sharpening so I certainly wouldn't call it "untempered". I don't know if such a thing even exists for Darkman, I'd bet the edge enhancement was baked in for the DVD mastering and nothing else exists.

Generally speaking, edge enhancement comes after the transferring. It's post-production. That's what I know.

Batmobilly666 · 01-25-2016, 11:58 AM

Yes, obviously. If a master without EE exists, the German disk certainly doesn't have it.

UniSol GR77 · 01-25-2016, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Batmobilly666

Yes, obviously. If a master without EE exists, the German disk certainly doesn't have it.

Maybe the Germans had the untampered HD file and just added EE by themselves. But there is not the same amount of DNR like the American one, so an "uncontaminated" file must exist for sure.

Batmobilly666 · 02-01-2016, 08:55 AM

I don't think it "must exist for sure". My theory is that all that they had in the first place was an old DVD master with EE already baked in and they used that to create the Blu-Ray master. The US disc has the same amount of EE, it's just blurrier.
We will probably never know and I don't think anyone is gonna spend money on a new master for this movie.

dvdmike · 02-01-2016, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Batmobilly666

I don't think it "must exist for sure". My theory is that all that they had in the first place was an old DVD master with EE already baked in and they used that to create the Blu-Ray master. The US disc has the same amount of EE, it's just blurrier.
We will probably never know and I don't think anyone is gonna spend money on a new master for this movie.

It's the laserdisc master

Batmobilly666 · 02-01-2016, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dvdmike

It's the laserdisc master

For real?

Even better.

03-30-2014, 04:50 PM	#1
Oscar Rothman Banned Top contributor Member since:Apr 2012 Location:Hawaii Blu-ray collection:412	Darkman (1990) Steelbook (Koch Media) (Germany) Darkman (1990) Steelbook Koch Media Germany Release Date: Jun. 06, 2014 Purchase Link: Amazon DE Artwork: Last edited by neoz; 09-06-2014 at 12:56 AM. Reason: Updating Op

04-18-2014, 01:55 PM	#3
Oscar Rothman Banned Top contributor Member since:Apr 2012 Location:Hawaii Blu-ray collection:412	Amazon.de pre-order is live http://www.amazon.de/Darkman-Steelbo...och+Media+GmbH

04-18-2014, 02:42 PM	#4
Jondog21 Active Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2012 Location:Virginia Blu-ray collection:1524 DVD collection:23 Trading Score:16	Guess I should add this info to all the Koch wave threads MK50 over on HDN has reported the following: "KOCH Media has confirmed the following (for the entire wave!): Steelbook, NOT Stickerbook FSK Logo is a Sticker NO inside artwork Printed infos on the back"

09-02-2014, 04:09 PM	#5
sarah_wentworth Expert Member Member since:Jun 2014 Location:canada	does this movie work on canadian blu ray player? thanks

09-02-2014, 06:26 PM	#6
brian9229 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jun 2012 Location:Vermont / Steelbook™ - 481 4K collection:411 Blu-ray collection:1553 DVD collection:71 Digital collection:57 Blu-ray reviews:12 Trading Score:59	Ive never in over 20 years seen any other art for this movie, does it exsist?

05-15-2015, 12:43 AM	#9
UniSol GR77 Banned Member since:May 2009 Location:Naples, Italy. Trading Score:1	I've heard this is the best relase, no grain-scrubbing or heavy DNR. Right?

05-15-2015, 06:12 AM	#10
Batmobilly666 Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2012 Location:Germany 4K collection:12 Blu-ray collection:813 DVD collection:20 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:1	There's less DNR. Which makes teh edge enhancement more obvious, though.

01-25-2016, 08:31 AM	#12
Batmobilly666 Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2012 Location:Germany 4K collection:12 Blu-ray collection:813 DVD collection:20 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:1	I'm not sure what you mean by "untampered HD file". It's likely sourced from the same old DVD transfer with less DNR applied. Which one is "better" is hard to say and a matter of taste; I'd say they are equally bad but in a different way. You can compare some screencaps here.

01-25-2016, 11:31 AM	#14
Batmobilly666 Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2012 Location:Germany 4K collection:12 Blu-ray collection:813 DVD collection:20 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:1	There's still ugly artificial sharpening so I certainly wouldn't call it "untempered". I don't know if such a thing even exists for Darkman, I'd bet the edge enhancement was baked in for the DVD mastering and nothing else exists.

01-25-2016, 11:58 AM	#16
Batmobilly666 Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2012 Location:Germany 4K collection:12 Blu-ray collection:813 DVD collection:20 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:1	Yes, obviously. If a master without EE exists, the German disk certainly doesn't have it.

02-01-2016, 08:55 AM	#18
Batmobilly666 Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2012 Location:Germany 4K collection:12 Blu-ray collection:813 DVD collection:20 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:1	I don't think it "must exist for sure". My theory is that all that they had in the first place was an old DVD master with EE already baked in and they used that to create the Blu-Ray master. The US disc has the same amount of EE, it's just blurrier. We will probably never know and I don't think anyone is gonna spend money on a new master for this movie.

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