Motionflow, standard or high.. yer preference - Blu-ray Forum

FuneralDancer · 10-02-2008, 07:05 AM

To be honest I had never really messed with this setting and always kept on Standard.. I had read that its best to keep on standard and keep that cinemotion on Auto1

I think older movies look better when turned on High, I was watching TCM and now the Thing. For newer movies I think the picture goes too fast when turned on High.. and I just leave it on Standard

arush5268d · 10-02-2008, 07:13 AM

Great thing about my dear ol' plasma - no motion blur!

FuneralDancer · 10-02-2008, 07:35 AM

Huh? I haven't noticed any blurring occur

SellmeyourDVD · 10-02-2008, 01:29 PM

I keep mine on high 99% of the time, you actually get really used to it and sometimes i have to turn it off to realize the difference

At first it made me think there was something wrong with my tv becuase i got so used to it.

olds403 · 10-02-2008, 02:07 PM

I have motion enhancer off on my 60a3000 sxrd set

FuneralDancer · 10-03-2008, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SellmeyourDVD

I keep mine on high 99% of the time, you actually get really used to it and sometimes i have to turn it off to realize the difference

At first it made me think there was something wrong with my tv becuase i got so used to it.

I'm gonna try 'n get use to it! I'm watching Blow right now..

SellmeyourDVD · 10-03-2008, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuneralDancer

I'm gonna try 'n get use to it! I'm watching Blow right now..

You could always turn it off, but i think the motion enhancements make the picture a MILLION times more lifelike and eyepopping.

EDIT: BTW blow is a damn good movie

crunchywyte · 10-03-2008, 02:48 PM

I turn it on high on my XBR4 to show people what it does but I noticed when watching blu-rays the picture will get almost static looking lines sometimes, so I keep it off, anyways I read that to get True 24p you need to have it off as it inserts frames......

mr.hidef · 10-05-2008, 05:12 AM

Nite Nite dancer......

10/4/08 12:15 cst

brett_day · 10-05-2008, 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arush5268d

Great thing about my dear ol' plasma - no motion blur!

+1

crazyBLUE · 10-05-2008, 05:25 AM

when im watching cable it's off . for blue - ray movies its on 120 HZ

Chevypower · 10-05-2008, 05:26 AM

This "no motion blur on my plasma" thing is ridiculous. Film makers know, that you can't pan too fast in 24 frame. It will blur on fast pans, even if you watch it on a $200,000 Christie!

plowmanjoe · 10-05-2008, 05:32 AM

yeah seriously. plasma people need to make a club and spread lcd hate amongst themselves. this thread has nothing to do with plasma. can't people be happy with what they have?

brett_day · 10-05-2008, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Chevypower

This "no motion blur on my plasma" thing is ridiculous. Film makers know, that you can't pan too fast in 24 frame. It will blur on fast pans, even if you watch it on a $200,000 Christie!

plasma's do not suffer with motion blur! Motion blur on lcd's is excessive blocking, that occurs on lcd screens because they cannot refresh fast enough...intended blur is intended blur, but motion blur is a blocking effect on LCD's that does not happen on plasma's...

Chevypower · 10-05-2008, 05:37 AM

Blur isn't intended blur, it's just that movies are still standardized in 24fps, it has it's limitations... While some people say they like the "effect", it's not really an effect, it's just what it is. I am looking forward to them adopting 48fps on movies, they have been talking about it for years.

crazyBLUE · 10-05-2008, 05:44 AM

I've owned plasma . I HAVE LCD I COULD NOT BE HAPPIER!!!!!

JasonR · 10-05-2008, 05:46 AM

Brett,

I am sorry you had a bad LCD, but I have never seen blur on my set. Especially in the manner you explain it. Motion blur on lcd's is excessive blocking

Granted, not all sets are created equal. I would say not all plasmas are better than LCDs and not all LCDs are better than plasmas.

Considering the new Samsung LCD had a better motion resolution than all of the plasmas tested, I would call your generalization false.

http://hdguru.com/

krazeyeyez · 10-05-2008, 05:52 AM

if there is no motion blur on lcd's, what is the purpose of 120hz or motionflow on lcd's?

i ask this as an lcd owner that as far as i have read and heard the "plasma dude" has it right lol. one of the limitations of lcd's that is in the process of being overcome.

brett_day · 10-05-2008, 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasonR

Brett,

I am sorry you had a bad LCD, but I have never seen blur on my set. Especially in the manner you explain it. Motion blur on lcd's is excessive blocking

Granted, not all sets are created equal. I would say not all plasmas are better than LCDs and not all LCDs are better that plasmas.

Considering the new Samsung LCD had a better motion resolution than all of the plasmas tested, I would call your generalization false.

http://hdguru.com/

ok fair point, but the lcd's still need have motion flow technology in order to reduce motion blur on the sets. Plasmas need no such feature as the refresh rates of plasma tv's far exceed LCD.

I will admit that LCD technology is improving rapidly but overall i still feel they are behind plasma's mainly due to the motion blur that still occurs on the majority of lcd's that are sold today. i am glad that you like your tv though. i loved the PQ of my sammy when it was working, but the motion blur was awful on my sammy

callas01 · 10-05-2008, 05:55 AM

Yeah, I dont get blur either unless I am watching Nascar and they are at track level, then there is some, sometimes. And the PQ with the settings I use is really really close to my friends calibrated 85U. I think his PQ edges mine a little, but he says its the same...IDK Anyways, I too am getting kinda tired of the LCD bashing lately. Some people don't want Plasmas

to the OP, I would just leave the 120hz off, I cannot stand the way it looks and with Native 24 fps, you don't need it on a blu.

10-02-2008, 07:05 AM	#1
FuneralDancer Banned Member since:Aug 2008 Location:San Antonio Trading Score:8	Motionflow, standard or high.. yer preference To be honest I had never really messed with this setting and always kept on Standard.. I had read that its best to keep on standard and keep that cinemotion on Auto1 I think older movies look better when turned on High, I was watching TCM and now the Thing. For newer movies I think the picture goes too fast when turned on High.. and I just leave it on Standard Last edited by FuneralDancer; 10-02-2008 at 07:14 AM.

10-05-2008, 05:46 AM	#17
JasonR Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Nov 2007 Trading Score:12	Brett, I am sorry you had a bad LCD, but I have never seen blur on my set. Especially in the manner you explain it. Motion blur on lcd's is excessive blocking Granted, not all sets are created equal. I would say not all plasmas are better than LCDs and not all LCDs are better than plasmas. Considering the new Samsung LCD had a better motion resolution than all of the plasmas tested, I would call your generalization false. http://hdguru.com/ Last edited by JasonR; 10-05-2008 at 05:52 AM.

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10-02-2008, 07:13 AM	#2
arush5268d Banned Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Houston, TX Blu-ray collection:85	Great thing about my dear ol' plasma - no motion blur!

10-02-2008, 07:35 AM	#3
FuneralDancer Banned Member since:Aug 2008 Location:San Antonio Trading Score:8	Huh? I haven't noticed any blurring occur

10-02-2008, 01:29 PM	#4
SellmeyourDVD Blu-ray Guru Member since:Apr 2008 Blu-ray collection:125 Trading Score:11	I keep mine on high 99% of the time, you actually get really used to it and sometimes i have to turn it off to realize the difference At first it made me think there was something wrong with my tv becuase i got so used to it.

10-02-2008, 02:07 PM	#5
olds403 Active Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Michigan	I have motion enhancer off on my 60a3000 sxrd set

10-03-2008, 02:48 PM	#8
crunchywyte Senior Member Member since:Apr 2007 Location:Jacksonville, FL Blu-ray collection:64 Blu-ray reviews:16	I turn it on high on my XBR4 to show people what it does but I noticed when watching blu-rays the picture will get almost static looking lines sometimes, so I keep it off, anyways I read that to get True 24p you need to have it off as it inserts frames......

10-05-2008, 05:12 AM	#9
mr.hidef Power Member Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Twin Cities Home Theater Gallery:113 Blu-ray collection:570 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:17	Nite Nite dancer...... 10/4/08 12:15 cst

10-05-2008, 05:25 AM	#11
crazyBLUE Moderator Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Pacific Northwest Home Theater Gallery:89 Blu-ray collection:479 DVD collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 38 Trading Score:30	when im watching cable it's off . for blue - ray movies its on 120 HZ

10-05-2008, 05:26 AM	#12
Chevypower Special Member Member since:Feb 2008	This "no motion blur on my plasma" thing is ridiculous. Film makers know, that you can't pan too fast in 24 frame. It will blur on fast pans, even if you watch it on a $200,000 Christie!

10-05-2008, 05:32 AM	#13
plowmanjoe Senior Member Member since:May 2008 Blu-ray collection:6 Trading Score:2	yeah seriously. plasma people need to make a club and spread lcd hate amongst themselves. this thread has nothing to do with plasma. can't people be happy with what they have?

10-05-2008, 05:37 AM	#15
Chevypower Special Member Member since:Feb 2008	Blur isn't intended blur, it's just that movies are still standardized in 24fps, it has it's limitations... While some people say they like the "effect", it's not really an effect, it's just what it is. I am looking forward to them adopting 48fps on movies, they have been talking about it for years.

10-05-2008, 05:44 AM	#16
crazyBLUE Moderator Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Pacific Northwest Home Theater Gallery:89 Blu-ray collection:479 DVD collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 38 Trading Score:30	I've owned plasma . I HAVE LCD I COULD NOT BE HAPPIER!!!!!

10-05-2008, 05:52 AM	#18
krazeyeyez Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Dec 2007 Location:the guy on the couch Home Theater Gallery:18 Blu-ray collection:287 Blu-ray reviews:4	if there is no motion blur on lcd's, what is the purpose of 120hz or motionflow on lcd's? i ask this as an lcd owner that as far as i have read and heard the "plasma dude" has it right lol. one of the limitations of lcd's that is in the process of being overcome.

10-05-2008, 05:55 AM	#20
callas01 Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Riverside, CA Home Theater Gallery:42 Blu-ray collection:230 DVD collection:47	Yeah, I dont get blur either unless I am watching Nascar and they are at track level, then there is some, sometimes. And the PQ with the settings I use is really really close to my friends calibrated 85U. I think his PQ edges mine a little, but he says its the same...IDK Anyways, I too am getting kinda tired of the LCD bashing lately. Some people don't want Plasmas to the OP, I would just leave the 120hz off, I cannot stand the way it looks and with Native 24 fps, you don't need it on a blu.

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