Samsung 4K UHD Blu-ray Player UBD-K8500

[joebp415]

Thanks Ray..your right..930-940 has HDR..850c does not..so I guess that firmware update that said the 850c will support HDR really does not..bear with me I am new to all this..I can't even find HDMI 2.0a cables..even on Amazon..guess I have to wait to get HDR whenever I get a new tv which won't be for awile since I just got this one 3 months ago..oh well

[katiehlvr2]

Originally Posted by joebp415

Thanks Ray..your right..930-940 has HDR..850c does not..so I guess that firmware update that said the 850c will support HDR really does not..bear with me I am new to all this..I can't even find HDMI 2.0a cables..even on Amazon..guess I have to wait to get HDR whenever I get a new tv which won't be for awile since I just got this one 3 months ago..oh well

U receive hdr on the sony 850c. It just has a lower amount of nits.
You still receive the hdr benefit

[pkirby11]

Originally Posted by joebp415

Thanks Ray..your right..930-940 has HDR..850c does not..so I guess that firmware update that said the 850c will support HDR really does not..bear with me I am new to all this..I can't even find HDMI 2.0a cables..even on Amazon..guess I have to wait to get HDR whenever I get a new tv which won't be for awile since I just got this one 3 months ago..oh well

Technically there are not really such things as HDMI 2.0 or 2.0a cables which is probably why you're having trouble finding any. There is a specification to meet to support 18GBPS transfer on the cable. Here I'll give you a link to Blue Jeans Cables, they are great and they have a nice explanation on HDMI 2.0, hope it helps.

https://www.bluejeanscable.com/store...hdmi-cable.htm

One about HDMI 2.0 compliance:
https://www.bluejeanscable.com/artic...out-hdmi-2.htm

[joebp415]

Thank you guys..one more question..when I hooked up 4K player to Tv it jacked up my brightness and contrast to max..I thought you were not suppose to have those settings that high..will it damage my Tv in anyway or shortin the lifespan of Tv?

[duckydan]

I also have the 850c and it definitely has HDR but I am having an issue with the picture settings as well... I am having banding in the Peanuts movie and it's definitely because of color settings since I can increase and reduce it based on playing with settings. I posted in the Peanuts movie since it's the only movie I've seen it in so far but it's very frustrating. I adjusted the settings on the player and tv best I can by eye but I think until some sort of calibration disc comes out it is going to be extremely frustrating.

[connect42]

Amazon delivered mine last night. I ran new hdmi cables and played a little. No issues to report. It powered on fine, remote is small, but not the horror I had heard.

I have an LG 55UB8500 (4K with no HDR). The first full movie I have watched on the player was Hotel Transylvania 2 with my kids. All important settings set to auto on the player, TV set to the 10 bit hdmi 3 port, with deep color turned on. I really can't imagine a blu-ray looking any better than this.

I am going to order the Hdfury Integral soon so I can us this 10 bit port to play UHD Blu-ray.

[beeliii]

It would be great if someone could answer this question, I'm seriously considering buy this but the lack of films for it is scaring me off; does the player upscale blu rays better than a TV would, or does it basically do the same thing as a 4K TV? Thanks.

[connect42]

Originally Posted by beeliii

It would be great if someone could answer this question, I'm seriously considering buy this but the lack of films for it is scaring me off; does the player upscale blu rays better than a TV would, or does it basically do the same thing as a 4K TV? Thanks.

I have zero actual proof, but see the post right above your post. The blu-ray looks fabulous. Is it in my head? I don't know.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Samsung UHD player owners with SDR UHD displays may find the comments by Stacey Spears interesting:

One other interesting note. When the Samsung UHD player is plugged into a Panasonic display, it is signalling 2020 and the display goes into wide gamut mode for SDR. We have done some frame captures to look at the output of the Samsung UHD BD. Their remapping to SDR is pretty awful. There is some hard clipping going on. The same SDR BD does not have the clipping. Unless you own an HDR display, no reason to spend money on UHD BD at this time.

You can read his full post here

[SolidRaider]

So I just got the Samsung UBD player and now I'm watching Exodus and I have my Sony x85c on HDR, so why does it look like shit?

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Samsung UHD player owners with SDR UHD displays may find the comments by Stacey Spears interesting:

You can read his full post here

I've already decided to skip over the Sammy and have been warned off by others but that just vindicates my decision. The Panny player may not be any better with the SDR conversion, but it could hardly be worse.

Interesting aside about the HDR metadata on the UHD discs though, with some discs carrying across the 4000 nit brightness information (as MaxCLL data, I assume) from the underlying Dolby Vision grade. That was true for a Warners disc (Mad Max) and seeing as Sony have also licenced Dolby's HDR grading tools then that may also hold true for the Sony UHD releases too. Now all we need is a 4000 nit consumer display to test them on!

[duckydan]

Originally Posted by SolidRaider

So I just got the Samsung UBD player and now I'm watching Exodus and I have my Sony x85c on HDR, so why does it look like shit?

Watching Mad Max on the format and while the picture is for the most part better than my vudu or copy the banding issues and screen tearing are killing me. I don't have it with any other device including a Roku 4 but it is terrible. I'm not sure if it's the HDR (although it doesn't happen on Amazon HDR) or a setting on the player but it has me ready to return it.

[montyb]

Originally Posted by joebp415

Thank you guys..one more question..when I hooked up 4K player to Tv it jacked up my brightness and contrast to max..I thought you were not suppose to have those settings that high..will it damage my Tv in anyway or shortin the lifespan of Tv?

My Samsung UN65JU7500 does the same thing when watching 4K blu rays. Samsung told me its the HDR in the machine connecting with the HDR in the TV and to leave them as the player adjusts them. I am afraid of image burn from the black bands on the widescreen movies when my Contrast pumps up to 100 and the Backlight all the way up at 20.
Not sure if your Sony set is doing the same thing or not. Just sounded familiar when I read your post.
Also does the settings go back to the way you had them once you stop watching the 4K disc?

[SolidRaider]

Originally Posted by montyb

My Samsung UN65JU7500 does the same thing when watching 4K blu rays. Samsung told me its the HDR in the machine connecting with the HDR in the TV and to leave them as the player adjusts them. I am afraid of image burn from the black bands on the widescreen movies when my Contrast pumps up to 100 and the Backlight all the way up at 20.
Not sure if your Sony set is doing the same thing or not. Just sounded familiar when I read your post.
Also does the settings go back to the way you had them once you stop watching the 4K disc?

So crank up the backlight and contrast and thus HDR?

[Derb]

Watching Mad Max now.

Someone posted the colors were wrong on the flare explosives.

My set clearly shows red-left yellow-right.

Will check the detail DNR issue at 48:16 as I get to that part.. Will update.

Edit

All good!

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I've already decided to skip over the Sammy and have been warned off by others but that just vindicates my decision. The Panny player may not be any better with the SDR conversion, but it could hardly be worse.

Interesting aside about the HDR metadata on the UHD discs though, with some discs carrying across the 4000 nit brightness information (as MaxCLL data, I assume) from the underlying Dolby Vision grade. That was true for a Warners disc (Mad Max) and seeing as Sony have also licenced Dolby's HDR grading tools then that may also hold true for the Sony UHD releases too. Now all we need is a 4000 nit consumer display to test them on!

That's going to be my next TV in a couple of years. I'm going to be very nitpicky in that regard.

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by SolidRaider

So crank up the backlight and contrast and thus HDR?

No that's not how it works at all.

But hdr is graded alot darker, so having the backlight at 20 doesn't make it bright. As a matter of fact alot of people still find it too dark. If they do there's a few options. Bump up gamma, brightness, or dynamic contrast which is sorta like turning on a light switch in the tv.

[skiizim]

When I played exodus, I had to bump up the brightness. On the other hand, when I watched the Martian, I had to tone it down. I'm sure there is some sort of happy medium but.... I do my best, I'm happy with the results, just wish there was some more content. I told myself I wouldn't rebut and now I have eight.

[joebp415]

Hi Monty..yes after I stop watching the 4K player and switch the tv to cable my settings go back to normal .I was having more issues watching Spider-Man 2..the movie would just go off and I have that green screen saying no signal

[Derb]

Originally Posted by ray0414

So im finding some issues with how this player outputs "4k". Some people have discussed possible DNR on these discs. But the problem might be the player itself.

With the mad max disc, heres an upclose facial shot. 1 picture is with the resolution set to "auto", which is defaulting to 4k since it is a 4k disc.

the 2nd picture is with changing the resolution on the player to "1080P".

anyone else see some major differences with the texture of his face and the sharpness of his eyes? there is more detail with the player set at 1080P!






if anybody has the HDMI screen capture and would like to try to replicate this that would be great.

None of these issues on my end.