Panasonic DMP-UB900 Ultra HD Player - Page 11 - Blu-ray Forum

kristoffer · 03-13-2016, 10:37 PM

In the first video they say the player has a button on the remote called "Playback info" and when you press it you get info about the discs including bitrate.(I know a little German..)

kristoffer · 03-13-2016, 10:45 PM

They mess about a bit and they say that the TV (DX900) hasn't been calibrated and frame interpolation is on…

Geoff D · 03-13-2016, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kristoffer

In the first video they say the player has a button on the remote called "Playback info" and when you press it you get info about the discs including bitrate.(I know a little German..)

Yes. My current Panasonic player does the same thing, it's quite handy because it says what the source format is (codec, resolution, frame rate etc) and what the output format is, a lot of player info screens only say what the output format is (if at all).

Geoff D · 03-13-2016, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kristoffer

But no video shows it turning on and starting up yet.

Not starting up, but you can clearly see that the player is up and running in the UK unboxing video, they mention the dynamic range adjustment for one thing.

Adrian Wright · 03-14-2016, 07:07 PM

Screenshot showing data from disc including bit rate and output signal etc etc

dvdmike · 03-14-2016, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Adrian Wright

Screenshot showing data from disc including bit rate and output signal etc etc

Now that I like, and I mean like a lot....
Hmmmmmm really wanted to see what pioneer and Sony did

Geoff D · 03-14-2016, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dvdmike

Now that I like, and I mean like a lot....
Hmmmmmm really wanted to see what pioneer and Sony did

As I said above it's a very nifty little feature, you don't know what you've been missing all these years mike.

The display also shows that the Panasonic can do a 4:2:2 output, unlike the Samsung.

Bolty · 03-14-2016, 11:48 PM

But why did Ted Cruz get the first hand demonstration?

2themax · 03-15-2016, 03:23 PM

The 12bit 4:2:2 output excites me. That happens to match the DV specs for UHD.

Kris Deering · 03-15-2016, 03:43 PM

Doubt we'll see DV support with this player, I was under the impression that requires different hardware that is not available yet. Would love to be wrong though.

On that note, from some inside sources I've been told the reason we haven't seen any DV titles on UHD Blu is because the authoring software tools are not finalized yet. No conspiracies.

2themax · 03-15-2016, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Kris Deering

Doubt we'll see DV support with this player, I was under the impression that requires different hardware that is not available yet. Would love to be wrong though.

My hope is that since they use their own chips that it was built with DV in mind. One can dream.

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On that note, from some inside sources I've been told the reason we haven't seen any DV titles on UHD Blu is because the authoring software tools are not finalized yet. No conspiracies.

No conspiracies needed. They aren't. The muxers and video encoders just aren't there yet.

FilmFreakosaurus · 03-15-2016, 04:18 PM

Due to the increased data demands for Dolby Vision 12 bit I would assume the studios need ready access to BD-100 media as well. They have to keep the bitrates up to compensate for all the extra video information or a whole new slew of artifacts can become visible.

FilmFreakosaurus · 03-15-2016, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 2themax

My hope is that since they use their own chips that it was built with DV in mind. One can dream.

No conspiracies needed. They aren't. The muxers and video encoders just aren't there yet.

THX reps stated this player does not have DV support.

It probably won't happen until fourth quarter products.

Dolby Vision displays that are capable of 12 bit, extra Nits, and even wider color reproduction will probably cost a premium.

Blu Nick · 03-15-2016, 07:32 PM

Review from What Hi Fi

http://www.whathifi.com/panasonic/dm...ampaign=buffer

ray0414 · 03-15-2016, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Blu Nick

Review from What Hi Fi

http://www.whathifi.com/panasonic/dm...ampaign=buffer

another glowing review for UHD blu ray. another kick to the nuts of the doomsday naysayers that have never even seen it.

FilmFreakosaurus · 03-15-2016, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Blu Nick

Review from What Hi Fi

http://www.whathifi.com/panasonic/dm...ampaign=buffer

Boy, the grammar used in the article leaves something to be desired. They definitely need better writers.

And the choice of displays being used is a head scratcher. A projector that cannot, by its very nature, reproduce HDR levels allowed in the UHD Blu-ray spec... an LCD display that isn't 10 bit or HDR capable at all... it's as if these guys don't understand the very tech they're supposed to review.

I'll have to wait for something like Secrets to do a full bench analysis before I make the leap.

ray0414 · 03-15-2016, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

Boy, the grammar used in the article leaves something to be desired. They definitely need better writers.

And the choice of displays being used is a head scratcher. A projector that cannot, by its very nature, reproduce HDR levels... an LCD display that isn't 10 bit... it's as if these guys don't understand the very tech they're supposed to review.

I'll have to wait for something like Secrets to do a full bench analysis before I make the leap.

everything says this projector is HDR capable. it doesnt take much to be able to take advantage of HDR metadata.

elwaylite · 03-15-2016, 07:49 PM

WhatHiFi is fluff. Not my go to for player tech reviews. Any one can get a player and say "wow it looks good and it is fast". I care about output accuracy and bench testing. AV Forums, Secrets and HDTV Test are better here.

dvdmike · 03-15-2016, 07:54 PM

They write like crap, oh and all that expensive sound hardware that justified the price?

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Sound could be a little more agile

FilmFreakosaurus · 03-15-2016, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ray0414

everything says this projector is HDR capable. it doesnt take much to be able to take advantage of HDR metadata.

But, again, most projectors, let alone consumer projectors, don't have the capability at the moment, outside of a premium laser projector as in some Dolby Vision cinemas (such as the Barco shown at CEDIA, which was amazing to behold), to recreate the highlights and the contrast range of UHD Blu-ray.

And then in comparison they use a "regular" display that doesn't have a 10 bit panel or HDR.

As was said above... What Hifi is fluff.

03-13-2016, 10:37 PM	#201
kristoffer Blu-ray Ninja Member since:May 2010 Location:Denmark	In the first video they say the player has a button on the remote called "Playback info" and when you press it you get info about the discs including bitrate.(I know a little German..)

03-13-2016, 10:45 PM	#202
kristoffer Blu-ray Ninja Member since:May 2010 Location:Denmark	They mess about a bit and they say that the TV (DX900) hasn't been calibrated and frame interpolation is on…

03-14-2016, 07:07 PM	#205
Adrian Wright Senior Member Member since:Aug 2006 Location:Nottingham, England 4K collection:4 Blu-ray collection:5 Trading Score:38	Screenshot showing data from disc including bit rate and output signal etc etc

03-14-2016, 11:48 PM	#208
Bolty Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Lake Worth Be...ah, no, Fl 4K collection:76 Blu-ray collection:100 Digital collection:93 Trading Score:82	But why did Ted Cruz get the first hand demonstration?

03-15-2016, 03:23 PM	#209
2themax BD & UHD Insider Member since:Jan 2008 Trading Score:8	The 12bit 4:2:2 output excites me. That happens to match the DV specs for UHD.

03-15-2016, 03:43 PM	#210
Kris Deering Power Member Member since:Nov 2006 Location:Pacific Northwest Blu-ray collection:400 Trading Score:131	Doubt we'll see DV support with this player, I was under the impression that requires different hardware that is not available yet. Would love to be wrong though. On that note, from some inside sources I've been told the reason we haven't seen any DV titles on UHD Blu is because the authoring software tools are not finalized yet. No conspiracies.

03-15-2016, 04:18 PM	#212
FilmFreakosaurus Banned Member since:Apr 2012 Location:US of A Blu-ray collection:306 DVD collection:17	Due to the increased data demands for Dolby Vision 12 bit I would assume the studios need ready access to BD-100 media as well. They have to keep the bitrates up to compensate for all the extra video information or a whole new slew of artifacts can become visible.

03-15-2016, 07:32 PM	#214
Blu Nick Active Member Member since:Apr 2009 Location:Swindon, United Kingdom	Review from What Hi Fi http://www.whathifi.com/panasonic/dm...ampaign=buffer

03-15-2016, 07:49 PM	#218
elwaylite Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Mar 2007	WhatHiFi is fluff. Not my go to for player tech reviews. Any one can get a player and say "wow it looks good and it is fast". I care about output accuracy and bench testing. AV Forums, Secrets and HDTV Test are better here.

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