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Old 10-05-2008, 03:35 AM   #1
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Not so sure he "lost" that ability... if you're talking about the 'jump into his stomach and make him explode Mortal Kombat style' move - I would offer that he doesn't find that necessary to do that.

Over the unseen 6 months, he becomes better able to use his abilities, and if you notice the fighting in reload or revolutions (with the Upgrades or Smith) it's relatively effortless. There's no more scared bunny or act of desperation moves (and certainly less effort, grunting and face-making - courtesy of 'there is no spoon'/'do you think that's air you're breathing' thinking) . During the Burly Brawl, he starts taking on dozens of Smiths, but it truly becomes overwhelming, and his best move is to 'Flee' Final Fantasy style.

So does he need the jump gut move in 2/3. I'd say no. He's able to take on agents with their rules and beat them at their own game. Neo just got better at 'physically' fighting Agents. Just like I don't need to count on my fingers anymore once I was able to do it in my head effectively. We all grow and evolve... except those people on the Kansas School Board.
So he stops acouple hundred bullets with his hand, then decides to fight 6 dudes hand to hand, instead of simply destroying them, (gut style like you said) and leaves others to go and protect the "key dude"??

I guess he just wasnt in a hurry?

Sorry, I still don't buy it.

If anything, if he "evolved" he would not have gone "backwards" where it required hand to hand combat. He could have done something like altering the matrix to hold them all in place or something. (you know, like the bullets) *shrug*
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So he stops acouple hundred bullets with his hand, then decides to fight 6 dudes hand to hand, instead of simply destroying them, (gut style like you said) and leaves others to go and protect the "key dude"??

I guess he just wasnt in a hurry?

Sorry, I still don't buy it.

If anything, if he "evolved" he would not have gone "backwards" where it required hand to hand combat. He could have done something like altering the matrix to hold them all in place or something. (you know, like the bullets) *shrug*
I guess I don't see a 'bullet', which is nothing more than another representation of data in the Matrix (with a predictable speed and trajectory), as much of an opponent. You learn with every opponent you fight. So toy with the fighters like a cat toys with a mouse, then when you've gotten out of the situation what you want - get on with the mission. If Neo just walked through his encounters by throwing everybody against the wall all the time, he'd never grow as a fighter.

Back on topic : I f-ing hate All of Jada Pinkett's lines except "She got a FAT ASS!", I hate Mifune and that Neo groupie chatter (all that 'holding the dock' and 'I won't let you down sir' crap)...
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I guess I don't see a 'bullet', which is nothing more than another representation of data in the Matrix (with a predictable speed and trajectory), as much of an opponent. You learn with every opponent you fight. So toy with the fighters like a cat toys with a mouse, then when you've gotten out of the situation what you want - get on with the mission. If Neo just walked through his encounters by throwing everybody against the wall all the time, he'd never grow as a fighter.

Back on topic : I f-ing hate All of Jada Pinkett's lines except "She got a FAT ASS!", I hate Mifune and that Neo groupie chatter (all that 'holding the dock' and 'I won't let you down sir' crap)...
I agree that a bullet is different than an "agent" (I would argue that they are both "a representation of data in the matrix", but I digress)

And my point is, because he is "the one" he shouldnt need to grow as a fighter, his growth IMO should be growing in control of the matrix (ie: flying, which is a whole diff story I dont even want to get into.)

And /cosign pinkett hate
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