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Old 04-25-2016, 06:54 PM   #68301
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Roger logic

Haynesworth raking a guys face off with his cleat with clear evidence: 5 games.

Brady accused of committing a violation in which even if clear evidence existed by the rulebook is described as a fineable offence in most cases: 4 games.

You don't have to like Brady whatsoever to see that it's ridiculous.
Yes, but what's even more ridiculous is that the NFLPA did this to themselves by giving Goodell such enormous power during the CBA. The NFL is the most successful league in the United States yet it has the weakest players' association. They have nobody to blame but themselves when decisions like this happen.
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Old 04-25-2016, 07:07 PM   #68302
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Yes, but what's even more ridiculous is that the NFLPA did this to themselves by giving Goodell such enormous power during the CBA. The NFL is the most successful league in the United States yet it has the weakest players' association. They have nobody to blame but themselves when decisions like this happen.
This is true. The only thing the CBA ever favoured the pa in the past were rookies and even that doesn't exist anymore in the current cba.
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Old 04-25-2016, 07:11 PM   #68303
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Roger logic

Haynesworth raking a guys face off with his cleat with clear evidence: 5 games.

Brady accused of committing a violation in which even if clear evidence existed by the rulebook is described as a fineable offence in most cases: 4 games.

You don't have to like Brady whatsoever to see that it's ridiculous.
Youre not taking into account:
a) nfl felt brady lied to them
b) pats previous problems
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Old 04-25-2016, 07:16 PM   #68304
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Yes, but what's even more ridiculous is that the NFLPA did this to themselves by giving Goodell such enormous power during the CBA. The NFL is the most successful league in the United States yet it has the weakest players' association. They have nobody to blame but themselves when decisions like this happen.
If the players want to get some of his power, they have to be willing to go on strike and miss game checks. I have a hard time seeing that happen because a lot of players can't afford to do that, and the NFL knows it.
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Old 04-25-2016, 07:19 PM   #68305
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Youre not taking into account:
a) nfl felt brady lied to them
b) pats previous problems
Rulebook: small fine
Result: 4 games + 1 million dollar team fine + loss of pick

There is no way points a and B can logically fill.in that gap. Roger was mad that he lost previous high profile cases and wanted to take it out on the next guy by abusing the power given to him.
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Old 04-25-2016, 08:11 PM   #68306
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Sure it matters - lying to the commish is a factor + just like when a player gets busted for drugs the 3rd time penalty is worse than the 1st.
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Old 04-25-2016, 08:18 PM   #68307
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Mike Tirico, one of ESPN’s best known on-air voices, is leaving the network for NBC, according to several sources. Tirico has been a mainstay with ESPN since '91, and given his many roles at ESPN, he will be an incredibly difficult talent to replace. Tirico has been ESPN's on-air face of the NFL, serving as the lead play-by-play announcer for “MNF” since '06. A source says that Sean McDonough, who recently renewed his deal with ESPN, is a leading candidate to replace Tirico on "MNF," though no decision has been made yet. NBC would not comment on the move, with a spokesperson saying that the net does not comment on people under contract with another outlet.

A versatile broadcaster, Tirico also heads up ESPN’s second NBA broadcast team and will continue to call games through this year's playoffs, as his current deal ends this summer. He also has called college basketball and football games and led ESPN’s golf and tennis coverage. Tirico is expected to be the lead play-by-play voice on NBC’s new “Thursday Night Football” package of five late-season games. It is unclear what his other roles will be at NBC, where Al Michaels is the lead play-by-play voice for the network’s signature “SNF” package, and Bob Costas is an established Olympics host, having been selected as primetime host for a record 11th Olympics including this summer's Rio Games.
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Brady being suspended is stupid - whether or not you like the greatest quarterback of all time

If the suspension does hold true, then his debut will come at the cost of the Cleveland Browns
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Old 04-25-2016, 08:38 PM   #68309
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This is a pretty big loss for ESPN. Tirico is one of the very best in the business.
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Old 04-25-2016, 08:46 PM   #68310
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Sure it matters - lying to the commish is a factor + just like when a player gets busted for drugs the 3rd time penalty is worse than the 1st.
Are you seriously comparing what the rule book considers a minor infraction the same as failing a drug test yet alone a third strike one? Also, in several sports if there's a reasonable gap between infractions that punishmentnis no longer compounded. Spygate is ancient news
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Old 04-25-2016, 09:03 PM   #68311
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Are you seriously comparing what the rule book considers a minor infraction the same as failing a drug test yet alone a third strike one? Also, in several sports if there's a reasonable gap between infractions that punishmentnis no longer compounded. Spygate is ancient news
The rules are whatever Roger Goodell says they are. That's basically the power the CBA handed him and the court seems to agree on, unfortunately. Gawd, Goodell is going to really let this go to his head. I expect many more power trips going forward.

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Old 04-25-2016, 09:17 PM   #68312
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Are you seriously comparing what the rule book considers a minor infraction the same as failing a drug test yet alone a third strike one? Also, in several sports if there's a reasonable gap between infractions that punishmentnis no longer compounded. Spygate is ancient news
Again you are just looking at the rule but as i said the lying & the fact that it was the pats again gets tacked on to that.
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Old 04-25-2016, 09:45 PM   #68313
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Again you are just looking at the rule but as i said the lying & the fact that it was the pats again gets tacked on to that.
Should be irrelevant. Not even someone like Jordan Belfort would go back to jail if he got caught for Jay walking. This is horrible news for the league because as chadfl said, the courts just said that Goodell can do whatever he wants no matter how irresponsible it is. Yes the PA deserves blame for accepting the cba but I'm sure they expected reasonable judgment from the boss, not one who acts like a scorned lover.
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Rulebook: small fine
Result: 4 games + 1 million dollar team fine + loss of pick

There is no way points a and B can logically fill.in that gap. Roger was mad that he lost previous high profile cases and wanted to take it out on the next guy by abusing the power given to him.
any rational person can see how bogus it is
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I wonder who'll replaces him on MNF?
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Ahh good point. I forgot about the "en banc" hearing possibility. It was only a 2-1 decision so that's possible I suppose.
Few courts ever approve them, and that particular court is extremely stingy with them.
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Few courts ever approve them, and that particular court is extremely stingy with them.
True but this is a case where the Chief Judge of the appeals court wrote a stinging dissent in a 2-1 decision.
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As much as I hate the Patriots and Brady I have trouble taking any satisfaction from this ruling. It sets a very bad precedent IMO. The more I've read about this case the more I think Goodell doesn't have a leg to stand on.
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As much as I hate the Patriots and Brady I have trouble taking any satisfaction from this ruling. It sets a very bad precedent IMO. The more I've read about this case the more I think Goodell doesn't have a leg to stand on.
He has 64 that aren't even his, as long as a group as powerful as the owners of the NFL stand behind him, he will wield a lot of power.
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