MGM James Bond films for Blu-ray releases

[Daredevil666]

No mono tracks, DAD or DUD as it's called in Bond cycles, doesn't have the bonus features in 1080i, but all the others seems to have been redone / recut in 1080i (I still need to check FYEO and LALD).
The PQ on both FYEO and DUD is OK, but not as good as the others since they weren't redone in 4K. I think 9 movies only were done 4K, up to MWTGG. The others will look paler in comparison.
DUD's master is OK, but since it enhances the details, it shows even more dodgy back projections or green screens.

[daniel1994]

Originally Posted by dvdvision

No mono tracks, DAD or DUD as it's called in Bond cycles, doesn't have the bonus features in 1080i, but all the others seems to have been redone / recut in 1080i (I still need to check FYEO and LALD).
The PQ on both FYEO and DUD is OK, but not as good as the others since they weren't redone in 4K. I think 9 movies only were done 4K, up to MWTGG. The others will look paler in comparison.
DUD's master is OK, but since it enhances the details, it shows even more dodgy back projections or green screens.

Ok thanks...I pre-ordered box set #2, Dr. NO and Casino Royale (my one and only double dip ever). Hoping to get a better peak at DuD once Netflix has it available for rental. The sound is actually the best on DuD, however some of the picture quality on the standard DVD was really awful (Ditto for Goldeneye).

[zoso0928]

PLEASE post some screenshots im dying here man..

[t0nythebeat]

Originally Posted by zoso0928

PLEASE post some screenshots im dying here man..

I should have "Casino Royale" by wednesday.
But I dont think that counts, haha.

[iNCREDiPiNOY]

I should have "Casino Royale" by wednesday.
But I dont think that counts, haha.

That doesn't count.

[captainjoe]

These should tide you over until we get members posting full 1080P shots.

100 720P BD shots:
http://www.ecranlarge.com/article-details-9983.php

[Lyle_JP]

Originally Posted by BluBrit

Also, I guess the original mono track is not on the bluray, but has the 5.1 soundtrack been corrected to remove the bad sound effects as Largo enters SPECTRE headquarters and the wrong music when Bond first meets Domino?

To me, the dumbest (and I mean dog stupid) thing in the Thunderball remix was the scene where Bond tries to pretend the motor on his boat is dead. In the original film mix, he starts pretending to try and start the boat, but really he's just turning the key on and off rapidly, making the motor turn over only briefly. He then makes his way to the back of the boat and unplugs the motor. After, when he tries to start it again, all he gets is a dry click from the key being turned. In the new mix, the unplugged motor is still turning over.

Whoever did that at DTS should be slapped. Hard.

[Lyle_JP]

Originally Posted by BluBrit

I only had problems with the music/sound-effect choices on Thunderball and OHMSS.

For the most part, me too. Those two were abominations, but the other 5.1 mixes were surprisingly well done. Still, that's no excuse for not including the original tracks. No matter how good the remix is, the original should be available, especially given the near-endless storage space of blu-ray.

[BluBrit]

Originally Posted by Lyle_JP

To me, the dumbest (and I mean dog stupid) thing in the Thunderball remix was the scene where Bond tries to pretend the motor on his boat is dead. In the original film mix, he starts pretending to try and start the boat, but really he's just turning the key on and off rapidly, making the motor turn over only briefly. He then makes his way to the back of the boat and unplugs the motor. After, when he tries to start it again, all he gets is a dry click from the key being turned. In the new mix, the unplugged motor is still turning over.

Whoever did that at DTS should be slapped. Hard.

My god! I hadn't noticed that, but that is unbelievably dumb. You would think they would have at least referenced the 5.1 track against the mono tracks and carefully thought through the justification for any differences. Lazy.

Originally Posted by Lyle_JP

For the most part, me too. Those two were abominations, but the other 5.1 mixes were surprisingly well done. Still, that's no excuse for not including the original tracks. No matter how good the remix is, the original should be available, especially given the near-endless storage space of blu-ray.

Agree entirely. I thought when they'd added the original mono mixes back to the US ultimate editions, following the complaints from the EU ultimate editions, that they'd got the message. Clearly not

[daniel1994]

Originally Posted by BluBrit

My god! I hadn't noticed that, but that is unbelievably dumb. You would think they would have at least referenced the 5.1 track against the mono tracks and carefully thought through the justification for any differences. Lazy.



Agree entirely. I thought when they'd added the original mono mixes back to the US ultimate editions, following the complaints from the EU ultimate editions, that they'd got the message. Clearly not

I don't think they had enough room. Remember for the early masters they really used up the 4k masters really well so that would really take up a lot of disc space. I might be wrong. Not a big disappoitment for me. I'm still keeping my UE's. It's the quality of the picture that counts more

[Lyle_JP]

Originally Posted by daniel1994

I don't think they had enough room. Remember for the early masters they really used up the 4k masters really well so that would really take up a lot of disc space. I might be wrong. Not a big disappoitment for me. I'm still keeping my UE's. It's the quality of the picture that counts more

A mono track at 256k in Dolby Digital is usually more than sufficient and loses almost no sound fidelity. And that is an insignificant fraction of the blu-ray storage space.

[hollywoodguy]

A little clarification:

The US versions do have the mono tracks, but they are coded Region A only.

All the international versions do not have the mono tracks, but they are Region A, B & C.

I wrote this about the PQ over at AVS:

Dr. No & Live and Let Die-- close to perfection. (For those who care, Live and Let Die has the corrected colors.)

From Russia with Love-- almost as good as Dr. No, but sharpened more aggressively.

Thunderball & For Your Eyes Only-- not as impressive as the others (a little softer overall), but still very nice.

Die Another Day-- the most sizeable upgrade because the DVD was so bad, but it's still by far the most problematic title. A lot less visible sharpening artefacts than the DVD, but still way too much EE.

[Adam_ME]

Originally Posted by hollywoodguy

A little clarification:

The US versions do have the mono tracks, but they are coded Region A only.

All the international versions do not have the mono tracks, but they are Region A, B & C.

I wrote this about the PQ over at AVS:

Dr. No & Live and Let Die-- close to perfection. (For those who care, Live and Let Die has the corrected colors.)

From Russia with Love-- almost as good as Dr. No, but sharpened more aggressively.

Thunderball & For Your Eyes Only-- not as impressive as the others (a little softer overall), but still very nice.

Die Another Day-- the most sizeable upgrade because the DVD was so bad, but it's still by far the most problematic title. A lot less visible sharpening artefacts than the DVD, but still way too much EE.

If the original mono tracks, corrected colors, and original subtitles are included, it'll be hard to find fault with these titles.

About the only complaint I'd have is For Her Thighs Only not looking as good as Dr. No and FRWL which are nearly 20 years older.

[Daredevil666]

Are you 100% sure the US versions are region A ? Because if then, European versions will sell virtually nil. BR fanboys are 007 fanboys and want the original mono, therefore, they won't buy any BR if the mono is region A only. FYOL not as good PQ wise as the earlier is, as I said, because the early movies were scanned in 4K, the rest in regular HD which is sub-par already for any HD presentation. Minimum should be 2K for recent films, 4K for any old movie.

[daniel1994]

Originally Posted by hollywoodguy

A little clarification:

The US versions do have the mono tracks, but they are coded Region A only.

All the international versions do not have the mono tracks, but they are Region A, B & C.

I wrote this about the PQ over at AVS:

Dr. No & Live and Let Die-- close to perfection. (For those who care, Live and Let Die has the corrected colors.)

From Russia with Love-- almost as good as Dr. No, but sharpened more aggressively.

Thunderball & For Your Eyes Only-- not as impressive as the others (a little softer overall), but still very nice.

Die Another Day-- the most sizeable upgrade because the DVD was so bad, but it's still by far the most problematic title. A lot less visible sharpening artefacts than the DVD, but still way too much EE.

Wow that's awsome that the US versions have the mono tracks. Now at could sell some of my UE's at my sister's garage sale.

[Blu Ray McHone]

Originally Posted by Nooff

Fox Netherlands releases all catalog titles Region Free at the moment

Yes, which is very nice. I got Walk the Line that way.

[hollywoodguy]

Originally Posted by dvdvision

Are you 100% sure the US versions are region A?

Yes.

[Daredevil666]

Awwww... bad bad bad, I got the Region B discs, and was planning to get the US versions for the mono tracks. I guess I'll have to buy a blu-ray region A player before !

[Spymaster]

Originally Posted by Lyle_JP

To me, the dumbest (and I mean dog stupid) thing in the Thunderball remix was the scene where Bond tries to pretend the motor on his boat is dead. In the original film mix, he starts pretending to try and start the boat, but really he's just turning the key on and off rapidly, making the motor turn over only briefly. He then makes his way to the back of the boat and unplugs the motor. After, when he tries to start it again, all he gets is a dry click from the key being turned. In the new mix, the unplugged motor is still turning over.

Whoever did that at DTS should be slapped. Hard.

Has this DTS mix been retained on the BD version? Or was it re-done and corrected?

Can we expect the atrocious DTS mixing of the "Gunbold's Safe" sequence in OHMSS, where the music was mixed horifically low, to be similarly retained/changed?

Have the original theatrical subtitles on Live And Let Die and Die Another Day been retained, or are they now player-generated (yuck!) again?

[hollywoodguy]

Originally Posted by Spymaster

Has this DTS mix been retained on the BD version? Or was it re-done and corrected?

Can we expect the atrocious DTS mixing of the "Gunbold's Safe" sequence in OHMSS, where the music was mixed horifically low, to be similarly retained/changed?

Have the original theatrical subtitles on Live And Let Die and Die Another Day been retained, or are they now player-generated (yuck!) again?

I'm happy to report that the Thunderball DTS audio has the corrected version of the above-mentioned problem (there is now a click sound when he tries to start the motor).

Also, Die Another Day is sourced from a fully texted master, meaning subtitles for locations and Korean dialogue are not player-generated. I am not 100% sure, but I seem to recall the same goes for Live and Let Die.

I do not know one way or the other, but an educated guess would be that glaring problems are also going to be addressed for OHMSS.