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Old 08-03-2016, 11:01 AM   #741
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The Rolling Girls
http://www.fandompost.com/oldforums/...l=1#post371541

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Another post of caps. This is going to make updating the index I made more fun....

Belladonna of Sadness
http://www.fandompost.com/oldforums/...l=1#post368888

Also relevant...http://www.fandompost.com/oldforums/...l=1#post369042
There are a ton of different 1080P screenshots found in this review:

http://doblu.com/2016/07/26/belladon...lu-ray-review/

I didn't see any significant compression artifacts on Belladonna of Sadness.

The man in charge of the restoration for it discusses some of the finer details in the comments section.
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For those that bought the Bleach Blu-ray set, can any of you provide screencaps/comparisons at all? I'm still hoping the upscale job isn't bad. If VIZ was just using HD materials from Aniplex Blu-ray Boxes (which will never happen), I wouldn't be as worried, but given the rocky history of R1 companies upscaling series with no Blu-rays in Japan...
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^Anyone?
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Here's some old hissatsu comparisons/shots you may have seen before. If not, these are usually very useful. Sadly he doesn't do these as much anymore. Trying to bring these here like I said I would a while back. I'll also be embedding his big The Garden of Sinners DVD vs. BD comparison for easier viewing, but much later as it'll be a huge pain in the ass (have to edit ALL the links from web.archive.org like I did with some below). Also if the Internet Archive ever loses it (that HAS unfortunately happened), it won't be lost forever. Nothing more irritating than useful info being lost forever. The death of the Mania/AnimeOnDVD forums is still a huge tragedy. We lost 15+ years of info. If only I was wiser and tried archiving more back then...

But anyway, enjoy the comparisons.

Baccano! FUNimation DVD Singles (4 discs, box sets were 3) vs. JP BD
Quote:
Originally Posted by hissatsu
So I got my box yesterday. Took comparison shots of the BD and the Funi DVD. Please note that Baccano! was released after Funi finally "improved" their DVD encoding. (cough)

01 R1DVD | BD
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https://web.archive.org/web/20110519...0&postcount=61

Blue Submarine No.6 Bandai DVD vs. JP BD
(Note: JP BD is generally considered by videophiles to be inferior to the JP DVDs (which were the source for Discotek's DVDs))
Quote:
Originally Posted by hissatsu
In the interests of science and abusing myself, I kept my Blue Sub No. 6 pre-order in so I could experience the Q-Tec goodness for myself. Comparing the BD to the R1DVD, in the titanic battle between the BD's heavy handed "high-tech" upscaling and the DVD's large amounts of dot crawl and some scenes I just couldn't get to not be a jaggy interlaced mess, I'll go with the Q-Tec crap. But I would have far preferred a "normal" upscale, and in the spirit of this show, I hope Q-tec, its technology, and its employees wind up at the bottom of the ocean, sans submarine. On the other hand, the box art is not bad.

01 R1DVD | BD
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https://web.archive.org/web/20111202...8&postcount=36

Gankutsuou: The Count of Monte Cristo Geneon DVD vs. JP BD
WTK unfortunately early on didn't quote his entire posts when posting these to Fandom Post, and the Internet Archive didn't save the post on Mania. From what I remember, his post went along the lines of how he was very disappointed that a Blu-ray in 2011 had less detail than DVDs from 2005 (this is most noticeable in the fourth comparison, the Geneon DVDs have more detail in the hair than the Blu-ray), the packaging was nice, and that Media Factory (who released this Blu-ray) was going on his upscale shitlist. He also advised people with the DVDs to hang onto them.
Quote:
Originally Posted by hissatsu
(DVD screenshots bicubic resized to 1920x1080, Geneon original release, not Funimation)

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http://www.fandompost.com/oldforums/...ll=1#post38040

Kaleido Star ADV DVDs (no idea if it's the singles or thinpaks) vs. JP BD
Quote:
Originally Posted by hissatsu
Ah, the wonderful sensation you get when you realize that the really expensive box set you just bought is rather disappointing.

While certainly not as bad as other releases, the Kaleido Star BD box is an (expensive) disappointment. Excessive DNR and sharpening. Plenty of halos. Any scene with anything like a grain pattern gets scrubbed clean. See 4, 15, 18, 20, 21, and 22 for particularly noticeable examples of excessive DNR. At least they didn't smear line art.

Regrettably, I'll be selling this BD box.

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http://www.fandompost.com/oldforums/...l=1#post248728

Rurouni Kenshin: Trust & Betrayal ADV Director's Cut DVD vs. JP BD
Quote:
Originally Posted by hissatsu
Well, looks like I'm a little late with the screenshots this time, so here's a comparison with the R1 ADV Tsuioku-hen... I mean, Samurai X: Trust and Betrayal DVDs (barf). For the most part the BD is a huge improvement, though things are not as good as they could be, due to both choices made in the production of the BD and unfortunate reality.

There has been grain removal applied, though not nearly as severe as some. There's still a fine grain structure there for the most part, but it's pretty light. I can't see any signs of detail loss or smearing of detail. So while I'd prefer they leave the grain alone, I don't find what they did too objectionable.

The unavoidable issue is with scenes that used SD digital compositing and/or CG. Those are upscaled. Screenshots 21, 30, 33, 46, 48, 57, and 58 are upscaled. The only alternative is to redo the animation for those portions from scratch. I think Lain is the only anime that has had that luxury so far, and it will likely rarely be repeated. But beyond that, there are scenes that show no signs of any digital work and were definitely done on film that are upscaled as well. I suspect that the film elements for those cuts were probably lost at some point. Unfortunately archival of the original film elements has not been a very high priority in the past, so this will not be the last release affected by this. The percentage of upscaled scenes is extremely low in the first two episodes, but it goes up in the third and especially the fourth. It is somewhat disappointing that some pivotal scenes in the last episode are upscaled, even knowing that it was unavoidable.

I've also read complaints of black crush - this I think is a bit wrongheaded, or at least forgetting what RK Tsuioku-hen looked like in the first place. The dark scenes have always been very dark/murky, from the original LD release (which I still own) onwards. I used to have the R2JP DVD director's cut. Just as dark. The ADV DVD is has more black crush than the BD as well. Unless if you're going to insist that every release of Tsuioku-hen ever has independently made the same error, I think it's a lot more likely that this is the way it was originally made.

In the end I'm quite satisfied with my purchase, if not overjoyed. It probably the best that Tsuioku-hen will ever look, and I can finally get rid of those ADV DVDs.

BD screenshots cropped to 4:3 (1440x1080), DVD screenshots bicubic resized to 1440x1080

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45 R1DVD | BD * No equivalent frame, the background is different, maybe the original footage was lost?
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58 R1DVD | BD * Possibly the biggest issue with the ADV release, the missing epilogue text in the JP releases.
59 R1DVD | BD
60 R1DVD | BD
https://web.archive.org/web/20111229...&postcount=112
http://www.fandompost.com/oldforums/...ll=1#post37523

The Rose of Versailles Nozomi DVD vs. JP BD
Quote:
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Overall, Rose of Versailles looks pretty good. The white balance is quite different from the DVDs, quite a bit cooler, though the white balance on the DVDs was itself shifted towards yellow. There's been some grain reduction - there's still quite a bit of grain - but 35 year old 16mm without grain reduction done is really grainy, more like this. The ED looks too dark, but it gets lighter after a few episodes (the last 2 screenshots).

01 R1DVD | JPBD
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20 R1DVD | JPBD | JPBD (episode 6)
21 R1DVD | JPBD | JPBD (episode 6)
http://www.fandompost.com/oldforums/...l=1#post268591

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Old 08-18-2016, 11:24 AM   #745
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Like I thought, I hit the text limit... Here's some more. Also let me know if I messed up with any links. Any from the Internet Archive I had to modify the links.

Gurren Lagann Bandai DVD vs. JP BD
Quote:
Originally Posted by hissatsu
No real surprises here. TTGL is similar in quality to the recomposites done by Aniplex for Working! and Kannagi, perhaps better. Obviously a major improvement over the R1DVD (lots of compression artifacts there) and much better than a simple upscale would have been. I can't see any artifacting - grain filters at work yes, but that's entirely something else. There is some aliasing, particularly in the logo, but that should be expected. Recompositing doesn't create new detail, only show detail present in the original graphic assets beyond what SD video could resolve. Unless if they start actually redrawing everything, there's no way around that.

Very satisfied with this release, and it takes its place next to Kara no Kyoukai on the LD shelf. Similar "near LD box size" packaging format to that release, though TTGL is in quite a bit heavier (close to 10 lbs) and thicker box.

I don't have any DVD releases of the movies, so I'm just comparing the R1 Bandai TV series release. I have the Parallel Works R2 DVDs, so I suppose I could compare those, but that will have to wait if it happens at all. Screenshots are from the first episode and around the end of the show. If you've been living under a rock for the past 6 years or so, there may be spoilers.

(DVD screenshots bicubic resized to 1920x1080)

01 R1DVD | BD
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http://www.fandompost.com/oldforums/...l=1#post189771
Howl's Moving Castle JP DVD vs. JP BD
Quote:
Originally Posted by hissatsu
Ah, that rare creature, the digital anime that's actually has a 1080p level of detail. But all the digitally animated Ghibli films fall into that class. (The first non-Ghibli 1080p production resolution digital anime release I know of arrives next week - think Shinkai).

Anyhow, Howl looks pretty fantastic. Huge level of detail difference from the DVD, even if the DVD wasn't windowboxed. And the color is so much more vibrant; yeah they tweaked the contrast and the color temperature is a little warmer, but it just looks so much better. The DVD looks faded and rather decrepit by comparison in just about every screenshot.

There is some visible artifacting in the 5th screenshot, but that scene has an insane amount of movement in it. I doubt you'd be able to notice it in motion, but if it bothers you, you really, really, shouldn't look at the DVD screenshot.

(DVD screenshots bicubic resized to 1920x1080)

01 R2DVD | BD
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https://web.archive.org/web/20111225...7&postcount=21
http://www.fandompost.com/oldforums/...ll=1#post56015
Last Exile Geneon DVD vs. JP BD
Same situation with Gankutsuou, text in his post is now gone. From what I remember, he stated Last Exile's DVDs were authored by SpeeDVD (note: ANN encyclopedia isn't always complete/very accurate, so this is probably most of what they did) who did the best encodes around back then (and based off other archived AOD posts I've seen, they were great), so the upgrade isn't massive. He noted something about the sound, can't remember what. It was a positive for the Blu-ray though. Really hope we can get these from FUNi someday. They accidentally announced a Blu-ray like 5 years ago, and nothing. They also noted this.
Quote:
Originally Posted by hissatsu
DVD screenshots bicubic resized to 1920x1080

01 R1DVD | BD
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http://www.fandompost.com/oldforums/...ll=1#post44156
Noein Manga DVD vs. JP BD
Text in post is gone, and sadly I never saw this originally when it was up.
Quote:
Originally Posted by hissatsu
(DVD screenshots bicubic resized to 1920x1080)

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http://www.fandompost.com/oldforums/...ll=1#post38097
Serial Experiments Lain Geneon DVD vs. JP BD
Quote:
Originally Posted by hissatsu
The Lain BD Box came in this morning. The active area of the video on the BD is not 4:3. Instead of 1440x1080, it's 1520x1080, so it complicates taking comparison shots. Look like it was originally cropped a bit to 4:3. Pretty big improvement all around.

01 R1DVD | BD
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14 R1DVD | BD

P.S. And a shout out to amazon.co.jp who finally raised the discount from 24% to the more standard 27% only immediately after shipping preorders. Thanks a bunch, jerks.
https://web.archive.org/web/20110519...8&postcount=73
Urusei Yatsura AnimEigo DVD vs. JP BD
Quote:
Originally Posted by hissatsu
Animeigo's UY DVDs aren't exactly known for their sparkling video quality. Constant ghosting (I think I was kind with the screenshots, I could have shown ghosting for just about any shot with motion), compression artifacts all over the place, EE, DNR, composite masters, the whole package. So it wouldn't be hard to improve upon them. I forget if the R2 UYTV DVDs even used component masters; they were certainly released long enough ago that composite masters wouldn't be surprising. But they have to be better than AE's release. Even AE's LD box of the first 40 episodes was better.

Anyway, I'd say the UYTV BDs look very good. No grain reduction or EE that I can see. Far less cropped than the R1 DVDs. I don't think an over 30 year old, 16mm TV series could have looked much better.

(BD screenshots cropped to 1440x1080, DVD screenshots bicubic resized to 1920x1080)

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http://www.fandompost.com/oldforums/...l=1#post171797

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That should cover a good amount of them. Now to figure out what ones I haven't posted here before... Some are already on the index. Will post more later, and also Sensuifu dropped some more caps on Fandom Post, will post those later as well. Going to take a bit of a break after this before I flood the thread more to help videophiles.

Anyway, here's a special Moribito post. Posted about it briefly before, but I thought I'd make comparing easier.

Posts where these caps came from below. There is no equivalent VIZ shot for the 4th comparison, it wasn't provided.
1 MB | VIZ | JP
2 MB | VIZ | JP
3 MB | VIZ | JP
4 MB | JP
5 MB | VIZ | JP
6 MB | VIZ | JP
7 MB | VIZ | JP

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Quote:
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I'm not bothering with screenshots of the whole set, as I don't really have much spare time lately. But here are equivalent shots to the problematic screenshots I posted of the MB release.

http://acacallis.com/moribito/moribito_JPBD_01.png
http://acacallis.com/moribito/moribito_JPBD_02.png
http://acacallis.com/moribito/moribito_JPBD_03.png
http://acacallis.com/moribito/moribito_JPBD_04.png
http://acacallis.com/moribito/moribito_JPBD_05.png
http://acacallis.com/moribito/moribito_JPBD_06.png
http://acacallis.com/moribito/moribito_JPBD_07.png


And the MB screenshots I posted last year...

Quote:
http://acacallis.com/moribito/moribi...facting_01.png
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http://acacallis.com/moribito/moribi...facting_06.png
http://acacallis.com/moribito/moribi...facting_07.png

...this is the sort of thing I had really hoped would be left behind with DVDs. I'm pretty certain the bitrate is in the 30s for all of these. It really shouldn't be that way, and I haven't seen artifacting this bad on any other anime BD release, US or JP. It's enough that I can see it without looking for it, which is distracting.
http://www.fandompost.com/oldforums/...l=1#post136336
Quote:
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Finally took some screencaps of this release. The PQ is actually better than I feared and it definitely looks better than MB's release. Not sure what happened in Library-chan's caps, but I didn't have the amount of blocking and course gradients as seen on the previous examples -

http://i.imgur.com/2c4EPSl.png | http://i.imgur.com/keeVpTX.png
http://i.imgur.com/9vvMtUV.png | http://i.imgur.com/JGA1czg.png
http://i.imgur.com/r7yvekh.png | http://i.imgur.com/0AprQjh.png
http://i.imgur.com/CERQujh.png | http://i.imgur.com/OpVqO74.png


and the ones from MB and JP comparisons (here) vs Viz's -

http://i.imgur.com/v6GdAz2.png
http://i.imgur.com/eYbZn16.png
http://i.imgur.com/N3bV8Mk.png
http://i.imgur.com/9msyxNS.png
http://i.imgur.com/YNSiMDt.png
http://i.imgur.com/OQMG4Em.png


I think they look as good as the JP caps. There's a slight variance in the brightness, but overall, almost identical.

So yeah, while there is some banding/moire it's likely from the source. I'm guessing the JP release isn't exactly free of it either considering a lot of the gradients have motion due to the lighting/illumination in the actual animation.


also, BDinfo for disc 2:



Code:
DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     MORIBITO_EPISODES_8_13
Disc Size:      36,863,783,622 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No
BDInfo:         0.5.8

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00014.MPLS
Length:                 2:29:54.360 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   32,778,252,288 bytes
Total Bitrate:          29.15 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        23990 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         1720 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz / 1720 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio             Japanese        1658 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz / 1658 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         34.246 kbps                     

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
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00012.M2TS      0:00:00.000     0:24:58.163     5,457,721,344   29,144          
00013.M2TS      0:24:58.163     0:24:57.871     5,457,795,072   29,150          
00014.M2TS      0:49:56.034     0:24:58.163     5,468,682,240   29,202          
00015.M2TS      1:14:54.198     0:24:59.372     5,464,055,808   29,154          
00000.M2TS      1:39:53.570     0:24:58.205     5,463,558,144   29,174          
00001.M2TS      2:04:51.775     0:24:57.871     5,463,422,976   29,180          
00011.M2TS      2:29:49.647     0:00:04.713     3,016,704       5,121           

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File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
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00012.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       eng (English)           1498.038                1,706                   319,490,192     1,976,922       
00012.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       jpn (Japanese)          1498.038                1,652                   309,310,716     1,916,340       
00012.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           1498.038                36                      6,649,932       37,851          
00013.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     1497.746                24,000                  4,493,290,226   24,441,088      
00013.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       eng (English)           1497.746                1,713                   320,621,920     1,980,651       
00013.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       jpn (Japanese)          1497.746                1,651                   309,013,264     1,913,716       
00013.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           1497.746                38                      7,060,016       40,334          
00014.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     1497.997                24,007                  4,495,240,626   24,451,630      
00014.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       eng (English)           1497.997                1,733                   324,433,800     1,995,441       
00014.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       jpn (Japanese)          1497.997                1,673                   313,242,196     1,946,097       
00014.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           1497.997                37                      6,867,758       39,312          
00015.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     1499.248                24,006                  4,498,782,927   24,470,944      
00015.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       eng (English)           1499.248                1,719                   322,069,800     1,987,357       
00015.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       jpn (Japanese)          1499.248                1,652                   309,626,176     1,921,018       
00015.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           1499.248                27                      5,068,128       29,047          
00000.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     1498.122                24,006                  4,495,515,304   24,453,106      
00000.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       eng (English)           1498.122                1,725                   323,063,076     1,989,225       
00000.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       jpn (Japanese)          1498.122                1,659                   310,709,968     1,925,814       
00000.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           1498.122                35                      6,558,668       37,644          
00001.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     1497.705                24,010                  4,494,930,408   24,449,955      
00001.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       eng (English)           1497.705                1,725                   322,983,588     1,992,051       
00001.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       jpn (Japanese)          1497.705                1,661                   310,945,968     1,927,056       
00001.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           1497.705                34                      6,297,852       36,059          
00011.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     4.630                   906                     524,242         2,923           
00011.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       eng (English)           4.630                   1,766                   1,022,032       6,302           
00011.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       jpn (Japanese)          4.630                   1,766                   1,022,032       6,302
http://www.fandompost.com/oldforums/...l=1#post267740


Oh and did you know Media Blasters tried to defend their monstrocity of a Blu-ray release when it first came out?
[Show spoiler]
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Unfortunately, I didn't have time to read every post, so I don't know if any of this has been covered, but here's the run down:

The source is 1080i native (says so on the box) and I've had the HDCAMs in my hands so I can confirm that.

All interlaced video will have a less crisp look and feel than progressive video, no matter how high the resolution is. It also will give encoder cards a little more trouble (possibly from having more frames in each second, just telling you what I've observed being a professional for 11 years) Some directors used to like to use interlaced video for the smooth look (not sure if anyone still thinks that way), but I don't know why it was done here, could have been a corporate decision because it was being produced for TV, which at the time in Japan was doing everything interlaced.

The big thing to remember is that this is NATIVE interlaced video, which means that if your BD player is trying to look for some pulldown to send progessive video to your TV, that (1) it's not going to work right and (2) it will be processing the video and thus creating MORE artifacts. You have to go to your Blu-ray player settings and change the setting. It usually defaults to AUTO and you need to switch it to VIDEO (or OFF if your player doesn't have a Video option). I believe the setting will be under 'Display'. On my Panasonic (a brand I like a lot for BD thus far) I can't figure a way to make the setting stick, so I have to turn off the AUTO every time I turn it on. In many cases, 1080i native BDs will look better with AUTO turned off (or set to VIDEO). This is ESPECIALLY true for this disc for some reason. When I was watching it on my Panasonic player and KURO TV, switching that setting resulted in a HUGE quality upgrade.

Anyway, sorry if I'm repeating anything, but anyone having issues with the disc should try to mess with their player's settings if they haven't already, and let me know if you have any questions.

Sean Molyneaux
(and yes, I worked on these discs)
http://www.fandompost.com/oldforums/...ll=1#post25210
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BD->Have you guys made a list of all the frames on the BD that has this issue? Can you provide the list of all the frames? Maybe we can correct those frames and see a pattern of why the compression artifacts happen.

I see you guys are going frame by frame watching the BD. I remember Chris's review being quite positive and no issues like this mentioned.

-js
http://www.fandompost.com/oldforums/...ll=1#post25461

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I just read that Toei Animation's CAPTAIN FUTURE (1978) will be upconverted too.
Japan and Germany are releasing Season 1 and 2 on Blu-ray at the end of the year.
Will it look even worse than the 90s SAILOR MOON, what do you think?

Bandai for example did a great job on the upscaling of "Devilman".
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison.php?id=49862
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison.php?id=49861
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comp....php?id=146787

It would be awesome if CAPTAIN FUTURE gets the same treatment as MAISON IKKOKU (real HD) but sadly they won't re-scan the 35mm material I fear. :-(
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I just read that Toei Animation's CAPTAIN FUTURE (1978) will be upconverted too.
Expect the absolute worst and be pleasantly surprised it if the upscale somehow doesn't end up being a mess.
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Expect the absolute worst and be pleasantly surprised it if the upscale somehow doesn't end up being a mess.

Yeah, I just hope it won't end up being a mess. It's a great series and deserves a nice HD release.
Toei's "Adieu Galacy Express 999" (for example) looks nice on Blu-ray.

More screenshots:
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Their "Space Pirate Captain Harlock" releases are great too.
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My guess is that Captain Future will look similar to the Galaxy Express 999 TV series upscale:
http://i1.someimage.com/qqxPreZ.png
http://i1.someimage.com/JpVda7G.png
http://i1.someimage.com/ImXG9H8.png
http://i1.someimage.com/sUKZJm4.png
http://i1.someimage.com/RjiSyiP.png
http://i1.someimage.com/nOWuQ02.png
http://i1.someimage.com/PBIXRKJ.png
http://i1.someimage.com/tAYtAiT.png
http://i1.someimage.com/edUyuYI.png
http://i1.someimage.com/ULc43XA.png
http://i1.someimage.com/JCcf8xx.png
http://i1.someimage.com/r6SxN4Q.png

Sadly Toei has iirc remastered only one film-based TV anime series in HD thus far, and that series is Fist of The North Star which was remastered almost ten years ago.

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Can anyone who has Wagnaria!!! Season 1 on DVD please tell me how the PQ is? Specifically how do the subs look.
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So after trying to find screencaps on Screenshotcomparison, I came across these two things that seem to be from the Bleach Blu-rays. If this is how they look, yeesh.
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comp....php?id=179113
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comp....php?id=179114

If anyone could provide more screencaps or comparisons, it would be greatly appreciated.
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Can anyone who has Wagnaria!!! Season 1 on DVD please tell me how the PQ is? Specifically how do the subs look.
You can find hissatsu's comparison between the NISA DVD and JP BD I embedded here.
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Some more caps Sensuifu recently posted. I'll be embedding more of hissatsu's past comparisons soon. [Edit]After doing quite a bit of looking here and on Fandom Post, there's about 30 or so left including that Garden of Sinners one... The things I'm doing to benefit videophiles... Anyway...

Blood Blockade Battlefront
http://www.fandompost.com/oldforums/...l=1#post373381

Charlotte Volume 1
http://www.fandompost.com/oldforums/...l=1#post373380

Sound! Euphonium Volume 3
http://www.fandompost.com/oldforums/...l=1#post371932

Also here's some stuff on the mono audio issues with Sound! Euphonium.
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Originally Posted by Sensuifu
Vol.3 CE screencaps

Menu is in mono; everything else is in stereo.
http://www.fandompost.com/oldforums/...l=1#post371932
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Vol.2 also has a mono menu; forgot to mention that in the other thread.
http://www.fandompost.com/oldforums/...l=1#post371944 (Thread he's referring to. I need to visit the Glitch Disc section more often....)

Oh and prepare to go "WTF?" at this regarding the Spice & Wolf S1 JP BD Box and the S1+S2 JP BD Box. So I recently came across this from three years ago, and what?http://www.fandompost.com/oldforums/...l=1#post172137

Here's more info on the S1 BD which is superior to FUNi's upscale. hissatsu was comparing to this post, but sadly because ImageShack the caps are gone.
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LOL, it's an upscale alright, and not a very good one - aside from the smearing, I'd say it's a lot of EE, not just some. Way too much sharpening going on - even the hazy/soft scenes are sharp. Funi's all over the map these days with their upscales - waiting for reviews/screenshots before ordering seems to be the only safe bet. Don't know where he got the idea it wasn't an upscale. That down/up resizing always results in a little blurring - a slight bit of blurring doesn't mean it isn't an upscale. Don't know what's up with the brightness either. The OP and ED are much darker than the JP BD, but the episodes themselves are much brighter than the JP BD.

Didn't think I'd be taking screencaps now of a BD box I've had for over two years. I took comparison shots of everything except for his first shot, because it's not from the first episode, and I didn't feel like hunting it down.

http://acacallis.com/s&w/s&w_jpbd_01.png
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As for it being produced in 720i, that results in combing during many shots in the episodes themselves (but not in the OP/ED). But I find that forcing a blend deinterlace (even though the video is 1080P) during playback does wonders for getting rid of that. Blend deinterlacing is lazy and not proper deinterlacing, but you know what, here it works really well. It certainly looks better and I can't see any actual loss of detail.

http://acacallis.com/s&w/s&w_jpbd_05_blend.png
http://acacallis.com/s&w/s&w_jpbd_07_blend.png

There's an avisynth script out there that should produce better results, but after quite a bit of tinkering with it and never getting it to work, I just gave up on that.

What's this, the second or third time Funi has released an upscale when an HD source is available?
http://www.fandompost.com/oldforums/...ll=1#post34474

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That's possible. Or maybe like their upscale of the 70s series Mazinger Z.

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Sensuifu dropped more caps.

Chaika: The Coffin Princess: Avenging Battle
http://www.fandompost.com/oldforums/...l=1#post375946

Den-noh Coil Collection 2
http://www.fandompost.com/oldforums/...944#post375944

<harmony/>
http://www.fandompost.com/oldforums/...l=1#post375948

High School DxD BorN (NSFW)
http://www.fandompost.com/oldforums/...l=1#post375945

Macross Delta Volume 2
http://www.fandompost.com/oldforums/...l=1#post375375

The Labyrinth of Grisaia (Special) & The Eden of Grisaia
http://www.fandompost.com/oldforums/...l=1#post375947

Also he actually made comments regarding Zegapain's recent JP Blu-ray. The first Blu-ray was released back in 2010 and is long OOP.
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After years of wanting this on BD, I finally have it The release is very minimalist- from packaging, menu design, to specs, but I'm fine with it and the BD cases and disc-art (which follow a closer design scheme to the OSTs) look more attractive than the original release. PQ/AQ wise, it's fine for one of the earliest HD productions, though there are some minor banding and compression artifacts in some scenes, nothing too obvious or distracting. Love how they designed the creditless OPs menu to play all selections simultaneously. Would've been cool if the same was done to each distinctive ED, but I guess that'd be too much. Here's hoping the same quality is retained once Sentai gets around to releasing it stateside.

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First I'm learning about Japan releases getting better quality than the US/UK releases.

I bought a bunch of Blu-ray's not that long back, MVM titles, a Manga UK one and a ADV/101 release? Elfen Lied. I checked some sites reviews of the titles i had and they didn't mention anything about bad picture quality or banding ? In fact they said the quality was good. Bit confused now.

I haven't watched them yet but the little i saw of Tora Dora the quality looked pretty good to me?

Are all releases generally hit and miss or something?
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Most Japanese releases are superior to what we get over here to begin with. Though sometimes foreign releases can be better. Like say some Italian releases are said to be better than Japan's, and some US releases are considered better as well.

As for quality being hit or miss, it definitely is. You've got terrible remasters and upscales (Japanese and foreign ones) that sometimes look even worse than the DVDs, you've got releases that look worse from someone not knowing what they're doing, as well as the show not being able to ever look that great due to how it was animated (Ex: Banding can crop up in the actual animation process) among other things.

As for Elfen Lied, not sure how ADV's release compared to Japan's save for the audio (more on that in a bit), but this is the best the show is going to look. hissatsu a couple years ago on Mania posted comparisons between the ADV DVDs and the JP Blu-ray. The show got recomposited rather than being upscaled, but the difference isn't massive due to its vintage.
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Decent effort here. It's not a 100% better, but in general it is more detailed than the DVD, maybe a little too sharp when it comes to aliasing, but that was probably unavoidable. The level of detail is probably around 540p. I don't think you should really expect too much more from a nearly decade show old digitally animated show that wasn't made with HD in mind. That they recomposited instead of just pushing out a lazy upscale is appreciated. Look like that redid all the text for titles/credits as well. They also added a credits page for the HD mastering after the end of the credits.

One thing I do wish is that it came in a chipboard box. Occasionally lower priced JP box sets (like this one) don't come in chipboard boxes, but it would have been nice.

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https://fandompost.vbulletin.net/for...191#post278191

What I meant earlier by audio is the ADV release is messed up when you watch the show dubbed, the audio is muffled except on the OVA. Some more stuff on that can be found below.
https://fandompost.vbulletin.net/for...893#post348893 (Read the rest of the thread. Posts they were referring to came from here.)
(I really need to speed up posting these hissatsu comparisons (I still have like 30 left...). One people may enjoy very much is the Planetes one he posted. Though that's through the Internet Archive so I have to modify all the links...)

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Thanks for the comparison list, yeah i already knew about Elfen Lied having some muffled English audio mostly in the upper range. I'm sure it's perfectly watchable even like that though, if not then there's always the option of watching it in Japanese with subs.

Any idea on these for image quality vs Japan releases? All in Blu ray: Ambition of Oda nobuna, Bakemonogatari, From the new world, Campione, Another, Watamote, Steins Gate.

Guessing most are fine? Heard mixed things on Steins Gate, and as i said before Toradora looked fine at least to me, but not completely sure on that one.
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Yeah, I just hope it won't end up being a mess. It's a great series and deserves a nice HD release.
Toei's "Adieu Galacy Express 999" (for example) looks nice on Blu-ray.

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Their "Space Pirate Captain Harlock" releases are great too.
http://www.fandompost.com/oldforums/...a-of-My-Youth)
Now that Arcadia of My Youth is being released in NA through Discotek, it should be mentioned that the aspect ratio is wrong on the Japanese release. I have seen a 35 mm print of it and it is 1.66:1 at most. It shouldn't be 2.35:1 or any of those scope ratios. In fact, all the Matsumoto films shouldn't be any wider than 1.66:1.
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