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Old 09-23-2016, 01:21 PM   #1
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I still don't see them going back to PT-era anytime soon, unless somehow Episodes VIII and IX tie into that trilogy more than expected and help redeem them in the public's eye. Besides, they seem to wanna center these spinoffs around characters or events we're already familiar with, there isn't a whole lot of ground DURING the actual PT left to cover thanks to the Clone Wars show (they could always cover ground between Eps. I and II, but since those are the two least-popular movies in the franchise it just doesn't make a lot of sense).
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I still don't see them going back to PT-era anytime soon, unless somehow Episodes VIII and IX tie into that trilogy more than expected and help redeem them in the public's eye. Besides, they seem to wanna center these spinoffs around characters or events we're already familiar with, there isn't a whole lot of ground DURING the actual PT left to cover thanks to the Clone Wars show (they could always cover ground between Eps. I and II, but since those are the two least-popular movies in the franchise it just doesn't make a lot of sense).
I see, that makes sense. Perhaps during their next spin-off phase? Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of the PT at all, but there's moments here and there I wouldn't mind seeing examined by a fresh mind and a new pair of eyes, if you know what I mean. I'd love a wandering hermit Ben Kenobi film starring McGregor. Just make it like a western set in space. "The Jedi With No Name."
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I see, that makes sense. Perhaps during their next spin-off phase? Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of the PT at all, but there's moments here and there I wouldn't mind seeing examined by a fresh mind and a new pair of eyes, if you know what I mean. I'd love a wandering hermit Ben Kenobi film starring McGregor. Just make it like a western set in space. "The Jedi With No Name."
There's a very good chance that's what this spinoff will end up being, but as much as I'd love to see that movie, that sounds like a huge risk.
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Old 09-23-2016, 01:35 PM   #4
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There's a very good chance that's what this spinoff will end up being, but as much as I'd love to see that movie, that sounds like a huge risk.
Do you reckon? I guess it is. Maybe once Disney have got a few hit SW spin-offs under their belt, they'll allow some experimenting. Here's hoping.
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Do you reckon? I guess it is. Maybe once Disney have got a few hit SW spin-offs under their belt, they'll allow some experimenting. Here's hoping.
Spending $100M-$150M on a Western that'll have to be almost entirely on Tattooine with little excursion into the actual STARS, filling in chronological gaps that'll mainly be of interest to the die-hards? At least with the Han Solo movie he'll have Chewie and Lando to bounce off of and have a good time, but Ben Kenobi being a loner recovering from the loss of Jedi/Anakin and spending time with the most wretched hive of scum and villainy doesn't sound like something Disney would leap at the chance for.
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Spending $100M-$150M on a Western that'll have to be almost entirely on Tattooine with little excursion into the actual STARS, filling in chronological gaps that'll mainly be of interest to the die-hards? At least with the Han Solo movie he'll have Chewie and Lando to bounce off of and have a good time, but Ben Kenobi being a loner recovering from the loss of Jedi/Anakin and spending time with the most wretched hive of scum and villainy doesn't sound like something Disney would leap at the chance for.
The key elements being Western and isolated character study. As much as I would love it that guarantees a massive loss of interest from the general public. Even if they stripped the budget down.

This is probably something they'd throw in a comic or book tie in.
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The key elements being Western and isolated character study. As much as I would love it that guarantees a massive loss of interest from the general public. Even if they stripped the budget down.

This is probably something they'd throw in a comic or book tie in.
Exactly. I'd honestly prefer they don't do it as a movie unless they're willing to commit to it properly. But by 2020 this'll be their sixth Star Wars movie and third spinoff, so they may be more willing to stretch things and try an unconventional story, so we'll see.
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Old 09-23-2016, 01:54 PM   #8
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Spending $100M-$150M on a Western that'll have to be almost entirely on Tattooine with little excursion into the actual STARS, filling in chronological gaps that'll mainly be of interest to the die-hards? At least with the Han Solo movie he'll have Chewie and Lando to bounce off of and have a good time, but Ben Kenobi being a loner recovering from the loss of Jedi/Anakin and spending time with the most wretched hive of scum and villainy doesn't sound like something Disney would leap at the chance for.
The way you've described it has me salivating at the prospect that such a film could ever be possible. Although, if something like BvS is any indication, the internet doesn't want to be "depressed" by a SW film, or see characters moping around whilst kicking some a**, which is a shame, because for a one-off it could work.
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The way you've described it has me salivating at the prospect that such a film could ever be possible. Although, if something like BvS is any indication, the internet doesn't want to be "depressed" by a SW film, or see characters moping around whilst kicking some a**, which is a shame, because for a one-off it could work.
You and me both, man. I even tried taking a crack at writing something like that just for fun a few months back, but then my computer crashed and I kinda dropped it (went back to taking a crack at writing a Bond flick, but hit a block about halfway through and now that's languishing on my iPad lol).
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Old 09-23-2016, 07:35 PM   #10
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Spending $100M-$150M on a Western that'll have to be almost entirely on Tattooine with little excursion into the actual STARS, filling in chronological gaps that'll mainly be of interest to the die-hards? At least with the Han Solo movie he'll have Chewie and Lando to bounce off of and have a good time, but Ben Kenobi being a loner recovering from the loss of Jedi/Anakin and spending time with the most wretched hive of scum and villainy doesn't sound like something Disney would leap at the chance for.
Do they have to spend that much on it though? Something like a character study where an older, more grizzled Obi-Wan finds his humanity reawakened after years in Tatooine's wilderness (maybe he helps some villagers fight off Jabba's goons, like the magnificent seven one?) doesn't have to have loads of money spunked on it. It'd be a big risk in any case, but if they were to bring it in for a sensible amount (well under $100M) then it wouldn't need to do amazing figures to cover its ass.

But as you say, it's not the sort of thing that Disney/LFL will be gagging for, as the reception to the thoroughly safe TFA couldn't have been any more damaging for the direction that the spin-offs will take: safe sells, safe means not taking risks, safe gets you nearly a billion simoleons in domestic grosses alone. Instead of the insane profits from TFA meaning that Disney/LFL had a bit of a safety net when it comes to taking a risk, it's just made them all the more scared of doing anything remotely 'out there' when it comes to Star Wars.
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Do they have to spend that much on it though? Something like a character study where an older, more grizzled Obi-Wan finds his humanity reawakened after years in Tatooine's wilderness (maybe he helps some villagers fight off Jabba's goons, like the magnificent seven one?) doesn't have to have loads of money spunked on it. It'd be a big risk in any case, but if they were to bring it in for a sensible amount (well under $100M) then it wouldn't need to do amazing figures to cover its ass.
I hear ya, but if it's their sole Star Wars tent pole for the year then there'll be certain financial expectations, meaning that it'll need a certain number of big action scenes and the requisite VFX that'll cost oodles of money, plus all the marketing muscle. The only way I could see them doing a properly scaled down movie is if this was an early year or summer release followed by a more sure-bet Star Wars movie in December of the same year.
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I bet that whole Boba Fett idea is scrapped.
I'd love to see more of Boba, but he doesn't really need to be the main focus. They could easily make him the antagonist of the Han Solo spin-off for example and it gets the job done. There were rumors in the past that they were struggling to figure out how to do a Boba film because it would mean making a villain the "hero", so maybe they settled on just letting him be the villain in another film?
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