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Old 11-09-2016, 05:43 AM   #21
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What's the difference between a laptop optical drive and the xbox one optical drive.. they are both slim internal drives are they not? would it be possible to just buy a replacement drive for the Xbox, and then install it into a laptop? Assuming you're laptop either had 4K display or could output 4K resolution to a TV.
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Old 11-09-2016, 06:38 AM   #22
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Checkmate PC Elitists!
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Old 11-09-2016, 07:54 PM   #23
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What's the difference between a laptop optical drive and the xbox one optical drive.. they are both slim internal drives are they not? would it be possible to just buy a replacement drive for the Xbox, and then install it into a laptop? Assuming you're laptop either had 4K display or could output 4K resolution to a TV.



It would be possible to install a Xbox one optical drive in both a desktop computer and Laptop computer as long as one uses a SATA connection cable and uses a power supply adapter connector. This is easier to do with a desktop computer. For a Laptop computer the drive would need to be installed in a external case that supports SATA or SATA to USB.


However the main problem is that the Xbox one optical drive would only be able to use standard 2-D and 3-D Blu-ray discs, since there exists no Windows software to playback 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray discs.
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Old 11-10-2016, 05:05 AM   #24
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It would be a start though, and then once the software becomes available, you'd be all set.
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Old 11-16-2016, 05:32 AM   #25
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This from Cyberlink's website



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Does PowerDVD 16 support UltraHD Blu-ray (UHD-BD)?


PowerDVD 16 doesn’t support UltraHD Blu-ray (UHD-BD) disc playback yet. The requirements for PCs to play UHD-BD discs is much greater than for CE players, and currently CyberLink is still developing it for the PC ecosystem.

To support UltraHD Blu-ray movie disc playback on the PC, several new technologies are required. These new technologies need to be incorporated into the software, optical drives (ODD), CPUs, and graphics processors, and are not all available on the market yet. CyberLink is dedicated to supporting UHD-BD and we’re working closely with our partners (ODD, CPU and graphics processor manufacturers) to deliver a solution.

Although PowerDVD 16 doesn’t support Ultra HD Blu-ray disc playback. You can still enjoy 4K HEVC UltraHD video by PowerDVD 16.

If there are more questions or suggestion, please don’t hesitate to let us know via CyberLink customer support.
https://membership.cyberlink.com/pro...cal-support.do
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So it sounds like it will happen, it's just when.....
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Old 11-17-2016, 05:37 PM   #26
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Thanks for the information. It would be a big disappointment if consumers had to purchase a completely new desktop computer with a new CPU and were required to use Windows 10 to play 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray discs. Is the encryption and processing power really that much different when compared to the top of the line 2016 desktop computers?

One can already watch 4K Ultra HD streaming or downloads on a PC, hopefully I do not have to replace my entire motherboard in order to watch 4K Ultra HD Blu-rays. When PowerDVD Ultra 17 comes out next year it most likely in theory will support 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray discs. My desktop computer monitor already supports HDCP 2.2, and all I need now is a new BD-ROM drive, and maybe I might be required to use Windows 10 instead of Windows 7 (If Microsoft came out with a built in program or add on APP for Windows 10 to play 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray discs, then I would be very interested in Windows 10).

The BDA and the computer industry really dropped the ball with the 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray launch. When the DVD format came out in 1997, DVD-ROM drives were available,when the Blu-ray format came out in 2006 BD-ROM drives were available. In 2010 computer software to play Blu-ray 3-D became available with the 2010 launch of Blu-ray 3-D. Then in 2016 with the launch of 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray discs one has to purchase a standalone player or videogame system. Hopefully 2017 will be different for desktop and Laptop owners.

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Old 11-29-2016, 09:39 PM   #27
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Thanks for the information. It would be a big disappointment if consumers had to purchase a completely new desktop computer with a new CPU and were required to use Windows 10 to play 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray discs. Is the encryption and processing power really that much different when compared to the top of the line 2016 desktop computers?

One can already watch 4K Ultra HD streaming or downloads on a PC, hopefully I do not have to replace my entire motherboard in order to watch 4K Ultra HD Blu-rays. When PowerDVD Ultra 17 comes out next year it most likely in theory will support 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray discs. My desktop computer monitor already supports HDCP 2.2, and all I need now is a new BD-ROM drive, and maybe I might be required to use Windows 10 instead of Windows 7 (If Microsoft came out with a built in program or add on APP for Windows 10 to play 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray discs, then I would be very interested in Windows 10).

The BDA and the computer industry really dropped the ball with the 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray launch. When the DVD format came out in 1997, DVD-ROM drives were available,when the Blu-ray format came out in 2006 BD-ROM drives were available. In 2010 computer software to play Blu-ray 3-D became available with the 2010 launch of Blu-ray 3-D. Then in 2016 with the launch of 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray discs one has to purchase a standalone player or videogame system. Hopefully 2017 will be different for desktop and Laptop owners.
Why not just buy an XBox One S or a dedicated 4k Blu-ray player? Best Buy has the Samsung K8500 4k Blu-ray player on sale for $200 right now.
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Old 11-30-2016, 08:49 PM   #28
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Why not just buy an XBox One S or a dedicated 4k Blu-ray player? Best Buy has the Samsung K8500 4k Blu-ray player on sale for $200 right now.



In the future, I might get a first or second generation standalone Panasonic or Sony 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray player. Panasonic’s first generation DMP-UB900 is currently the best model on the market. I am waiting for the new standalone 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray player from OPPO digital to be released in late December 2016 or early 2017. I need the OPPO model since it’s the only model that offers DVD-Audio, and SACD support. In addition, the first generation OPPO 4K model supports HDR10 and with a future promised firmware update it will offer full Dolby Vision support.


I am glad that Microsoft has released the XBOX One S with full support for 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray discs. Maybe in the future Microsoft might release some videogames on 100GB Blu-ray disc that will greatly out perform the Sony PS4.


There are now 4K Ultra HD computer monitors built into Laptop computers and a large amount of desktop computer monitors with full 3840 x 2160P resolution support. The Windows PC community would like to have the ability to play 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray discs. In addition, some people turn their computers into home theater PC’s where they connect them to 4K projectors and high-end OLED flat panel screens. Laptop computers are also used for portable movie watching in hotel rooms.


Maybe Microsoft might surprise consumers and come out with a free app or paid app that supports 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray, 1080P Blu-ray 3-D, standard 2-D Blu-ray,DVD, and audio CD’s.

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Old 12-02-2016, 04:02 PM   #29
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PowerDVD UHD BD support is coming in early 2017: https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meld...t-3538377.html

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Old 12-07-2016, 08:55 AM   #30
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For 4K Blu-ray Player, i like Samsung BD-J6300, it allows me to watch my favorite content at near UHD quality, It could act as web browser, smart 4K Blu-ray player, UHD upscaler, 3D Blu-ray player, etc. Also, it features built-in dual Wi-Fi connection and USB connectivity. For 4K Blu-ray Player Software, i like VLC and UFUSoft Blu-ray Player, which is good at playing 4K Blu-ray disc, 4K videos on pc. For 4K Blu-ray Drive, normal 4 layer blu-ray disks that use BDXL drives might be not able to read a pressed 4 layer disk. The newer LG BDXL drives can read them (make sure to get one with an initial manufacture date 2015 or later).
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Old 12-07-2016, 07:30 PM   #31
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There is no Windows PC software on the market that plays 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray discs. Also good luck finding a BD-ROM drive that will read the discs.
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Old 12-11-2016, 05:00 PM   #32
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I just need a bd-rom capable of uhd blurays now, already got compatible 40" 4K monitor (Philips BDM4065UC) and a GTX 1070 graphics card.
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Old 12-11-2016, 06:10 PM   #33
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I just need a bd-rom capable of uhd blurays now, already got compatible 40" 4K monitor (Philips BDM4065UC) and a GTX 1070 graphics card.

There is one major problem with the Philips BDM4065UC. It does not offer HDCP version 2.2 which is a requirement to receive 4K Ultra HD material from Blu-ray discs, cable, satellite, and streaming sources. The HDMI port on that model appears to be the old HDCP 1.4 and it only supports 30Hz at 3840 x 2160, but the Displayport will support 60Hz however according to the specs it does not have any HDCP. Therefore, if the specs are correct then the 4K Ultra HD signal from a Blu-ray source will be downscaled to 1080P, and then the 1080P signal will be upscaled to 4K Ultra HD by the monitor(not true 4K but only simulated 4K quality).
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Old 12-12-2016, 02:05 PM   #34
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There is one major problem with the Philips BDM4065UC. It does not offer HDCP version 2.2 which is a requirement to receive 4K Ultra HD material from Blu-ray discs, cable, satellite, and streaming sources. The HDMI port on that model appears to be the old HDCP 1.4 and it only supports 30Hz at 3840 x 2160, but the Displayport will support 60Hz however according to the specs it does not have any HDCP. Therefore, if the specs are correct then the 4K Ultra HD signal from a Blu-ray source will be downscaled to 1080P, and then the 1080P signal will be upscaled to 4K Ultra HD by the monitor(not true 4K but only simulated 4K quality).
Doesn't matter at all for me as I plan to use PowerDVD to unlock the movies on the disc and then rip the movies and mux them for storing on my NAS.
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Old 12-13-2016, 03:15 AM   #35
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The encryption on the 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray discs are still 100% secure. That is another advantage of the new format for studios.
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Old 12-21-2016, 02:18 AM   #36
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I wonder if you'll need a Kaby Lake processor to play UHD.
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Old 12-21-2016, 03:21 AM   #37
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I wonder if you'll need a Kaby Lake processor to play UHD.
You need hdcp 2.2 so yes kaby lake or later.
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Old 12-22-2016, 03:01 AM   #38
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The Kaby Lake processor will add native HDCP 2.2 hardware support, however in theory HDCP 2.2 should be able to be emulated in a software program on older Intel CPU's. There are Intel CPU’s that are only a few years old that are much more powerful than the CPU used in $200 standalone 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray players.

I hope the new PowerDVD 17 Ultra program released in 2017 does not force consumers to have a Kaby Lake processor to play 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray discs.
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Old 01-26-2017, 04:38 AM   #39
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It looks like Cyberlink is about to release a combo for playing UHD on your PC

https://www.cyberlink.com/eng/press_room/view_4125.html
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Old 01-26-2017, 05:19 AM   #40
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Pioneer is releasing a 4k uhd computer drive for about $200. Not sure if it's available to the masses. May be a business only piece of hardware.
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