Bane and Hush to be in KNIGHTFALL!

[Uuah]

I just heard, on a podcast, that Michael Clark Duncan (The Green Mile, Sin City) and Vinnie Jones (Gone in 60 Seconds, Survive Style 5) are both bidding for the role of Bane in the new Knightfall movie. Nothing is official, yet, but it's rumored that Chris Nolan is going to base his newest Bat Film off of the Knightfall and Hush story lines.
Although Christopher Nolan has no comment on the subject, it's being said that he's cast his gaze toward Guy Pearce (Memento, The Proposition) to reunite with he and his co-writer/brother, to play Hush. It's said that if Pearce doesn't want the role, he is planning to approach Casey Affleck (The Assassination of Jesse James).
Whether the rumors of Johnny Depp playing the Riddler are true or not, it was said, on the podcast (Words and Pictureshows) that The Nolan brothers are trying to steer Depp towards possibly playing Azrael or a yet-to-be-named supporting character.
There was also talks of Rose Byrne (Sunshine, Damages, Wicker Park) being used to introduce Catwoman, after Sarah Polley suggested her after refusing the role herself. The introduction of Catwoman, allegedly, will be based more on Batman Year One's ex-pro gone vigilante approach to the character , rather than the traditionally portrayal of Catwoman as a cat burglar and human pun.
It's also in the far reaches of extreme rumor that they're thinking of introducing the Detective Harvey Bullock character, from the classic '90's Paul Dini animated series, as a member of the cast. It's said they're possibly looking at Kevin Corrigan for the role.

I don't know about anybody else, but I'm excited!

[andyman1970]

Well, I would love to see them bring Azreal in as a character. I'm glad their talking of using Bane and Hush instead of Riddler or Penguin. That would be way to predictable and it might get kind of cheesy.

[STARSCREAM]

Can't wait!

[Uuah]

Originally Posted by andyman1970

Well, I would love to see them bring Azreal in as a character. I'm glad their talking of using Bane and Hush instead of Riddler or Penguin. That would be way to predictable and it might get kind of cheesy.

I agree. I heard all sorts of stuff about that. I even heard Chris Nolan say he was looking to Cher to play Catwoman, possibly. But, really, I think it was all a red herring. I mean, after what he said about The Dark Knight, at Spike TV's Scream Awards*, it doesn't make any sense that he'd go in the Riddler/Penguin direction. Especially with Cher?

*"The whole time we were filming we kept saying that 'this is too long and too dark and we'll never get to work again', and -now- we're so happy that it worked and you liked it"

[Young-at-heart]

Sounds pretty good, but I'm still waiting for The Long Haloween!

[Barbie-Shrimp]

I hope Cypher and Trinity are in it like they were in Memento that C. Nolan made.

[Uuah]

Originally Posted by Young-at-heart

Sounds pretty good, but I'm still waiting for The Long Haloween!

Settle down, buddy. They'd have to introduce Catwoman and several others who haven't made the new saga's lineup, yet. Not to mention,

[Show spoiler]bringing Two Face back to life

and finding a new actor to play Joker

[zweet77]

Pretty cool although for me Knightfall had more impact because Batman really was at the end of his rope after years of hellish battles Robin getting killed getting hooked on venom etc.Its too early in the storyline for this.That said it would be awsome to see Batman vs Azbat in live action.

[zweet77]

Originally Posted by Uuah

Settle down, buddy. They'd have to introduce Catwoman and several others who haven't made the new saga's lineup, yet. Not to mention,

[Show spoiler]bringing Two Face back to life

and finding a new actor to play Joker

Don't they have to do that to do Knightfall too?

[Uuah]

Originally Posted by zweet77

Pretty cool although for me Knightfall had more impact because Batman really was at the end of his rope after years of hellish battles Robin getting killed getting hooked on venom etc.Its too early in the storyline for this.That said it would be awsome to see Batman vs Azbat in live action.

Well, they originally said they didn't want to do a Knightfall story line, because they thought it would be too dark for the kids and too disappointing for the fans, but I think they're going with something BASED on the Knightfall story (and Hush) because that's what seems to be the inevitable direction after The Dark Knight left off.
The Dark Knight doesn't end with a hero. It ends with a phyrric victory in which Batman has to assume the role of outcast and villain. Although Joker can't be there to wear him down and Robin hasn't been introduced, yet (let alone killed) I think it would be very feasible in the next film for us to be introduced to a Batman who may not be at the end of his rope, but surely near it. Keep in mind, he'll no longer have the cooperation of Gordon.
If you replace Joker/the death of Robin with the introduction of Hush, who will try to not destroy the life of Batman but Bruce Wayne, I can see Batman reaching the end of his rope quite rapidly. So far, Batman has only faced villains as Batman. No adversary, aside from the final confrontation with Ras Al Ghoul at the end of Batman Begins, has confronted him as Bruce Wayne. And what did Bruce lose? Property? BFD.
If Hush were in the picture, however, trying to destroy the personal life of Bruce Wayne and possibly frame him for murder, we wouldn't just see Batman having to overcome new obstacles, but Bruce Wayne as well. Both alter-egos, running from the cops, etc. I could see it being just as intense as the comics storyline, without all the mythos and trappings of the comics.

and to answer your second question; only if they remain 100% true to the story line, which - if they're mixing Hush in - it doesn't look like that's their plan.
And, honestly, I'd rather somebody be true to the character than every letter of the comic, anyway. Batman spans back to the 1920's. It would be ridiculous to try to reproduce his entire mythology. We're looking at a reimagining of Batman. Not a straight adaptation. I mean, the Joker's origin was more true to comic form in the Tim Burton "original" than TDK but I don't hear anybody complaining.
If it kicks ass, it kicks ass. Why be picky?

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by Uuah

It's also in the far reaches of extreme rumor that they're thinking of introducing the Detective Harvey Bullock character, from the classic '90's Paul Dini animated series, as a member of the cast. It's said they're possibly looking at Kevin Corrigan for the role.

So, if it was for the animated series, Bullock was supposed to be named after the longtime Hanna-Barbera writer?
(The real "Harvey Bullock" wrote some of the better Flintstones episodes in the series, along with Warren Foster and Larry Markes.)

Not that there's anything wrong with adopting TV canon, as we almost got Madonna as Harley Quinn, in that fifth Schumacher movie that never got made...

[Uuah]

Originally Posted by EricJ

So, if it was for the animated series, Bullock was supposed to be named after the longtime Hanna-Barbera writer?
(The real "Harvey Bullock" wrote some of the better Flintstones episodes in the series, along with Warren Foster and Larry Markes.)

Not that there's anything wrong with adopting TV canon, as we almost got Madonna as Harley Quinn, in that fifth Schumacher movie that never got made...

This is just what I heard. And - who knows?- it could be another "Cher as Catwoman" red herring.
They may just be basing a character on that archetype, too. All I know is I'd like to see Kevin Corrigan talking to all his cop friends about what scum he thinks Batman is.

[fighthefutureofhd]

Originally Posted by Uuah

Well, they originally said they didn't want to do a Knightfall story line, because they thought it would be too dark for the kids and too disappointing for the fans, but I think they're going with something BASED on the Knightfall story (and Hush) because that's what seems to be the inevitable direction after The Dark Knight left off.
The Dark Knight doesn't end with a hero. It ends with a phyrric victory in which Batman has to assume the role of outcast and villain. Although Joker can't be there to wear him down and Robin hasn't been introduced, yet (let alone killed) I think it would be very feasible in the next film for us to be introduced to a Batman who may not be at the end of his rope, but surely near it. Keep in mind, he'll no longer have the cooperation of Gordon.
If you replace Joker/the death of Robin with the introduction of Hush, who will try to not destroy the life of Batman but Bruce Wayne, I can see Batman reaching the end of his rope quite rapidly. So far, Batman has only faced villains as Batman. No adversary, aside from the final confrontation with Ras Al Ghoul at the end of Batman Begins, has confronted him as Bruce Wayne. And what did Bruce lose? Property? BFD.
If Hush were in the picture, however, trying to destroy the personal life of Bruce Wayne and possibly frame him for murder, we wouldn't just see Batman having to overcome new obstacles, but Bruce Wayne as well. Both alter-egos, running from the cops, etc. I could see it being just as intense as the comics storyline, without all the mythos and trappings of the comics.

and to answer your second question; only if they remain 100% true to the story line, which - if they're mixing Hush in - it doesn't look like that's their plan.
And, honestly, I'd rather somebody be true to the character than every letter of the comic, anyway. Batman spans back to the 1920's. It would be ridiculous to try to reproduce his entire mythology. We're looking at a reimagining of Batman. Not a straight adaptation. I mean, the Joker's origin was more true to comic form in the Tim Burton "original" than TDK but I don't hear anybody complaining.
If it kicks ass, it kicks ass. Why be picky?

those are all very good points and i think it would make for an excellent movie. though i question one of the things you brought up. you said that bruce hasn't faced anyone that has actually hurt bruce and bruce hasn't lost anything other than property. that's not true at all. bruce faced the joker in the dark knight and lost rachel. that's huge. yes, he faced the joker as batman, but don't think that just because bruce dons a mask that he didn't personally feel the pain of losing rachel. that has really hurt him. i think that in your storyline idea hush will use that to really hurt bruce and make him feel even more pain.

they're already setting it up in the dark knight. i think the whole rachel thing is like the whole jason todd thing. it even mirrors the a death in the family storyline. jezz! i never thought about it though until your comment. wow!!! how interesting. that has now given me a whole new appreciation for the dark knight. it's a rare summer movie that has so many layers and it really is one of the best comic book movies made. probably the best. just for adding the a death in the family storyline/nod alone makes it great. that is until they film fearful symmetry. thank you for that.

[Moefiz]

Knightfall was a good story line but I think Hush was much better and I can see where they are going by using the Hush story line.

TDK ended with Dent being dead and I think they can use that in the Hush story
line.

[SpikesBluBlooded]

I for one really enjoyed the Dark Knight, and hope that the story line continues... All of these "reports" sound fantastic, and one can only hope that they continue to do the Batman justice...

[martinp1]

i like the knightfall storyline including bane.. but why HUSH, now?

his story kind of relates to two-face story that was used in dark knight...

hes thought dead then comes back alive... unless mr. nolan includes a twist we all would see coming...

two-face alive

[dvd_mazter]

If they are using the Hush story, I'll be stoked. One of my fav comic series I've read.

[GeneD5]

I don't know the hush story but I remember knightfall when I was very young and that would be AWESOME!

[Uuah]

Originally Posted by fighthefutureofhd

those are all very good points and i think it would make for an excellent movie. though i question one of the things you brought up. you said that bruce hasn't faced anyone that has actually hurt bruce and bruce hasn't lost anything other than property. that's not true at all. bruce faced the joker in the dark knight and lost rachel. that's huge. yes, he faced the joker as batman, but don't think that just because bruce dons a mask that he didn't personally feel the pain of losing rachel. that has really hurt him. i think that in your storyline idea hush will use that to really hurt bruce and make him feel even more pain.

they're already setting it up in the dark knight. i think the whole rachel thing is like the whole jason todd thing. it even mirrors the a death in the family storyline. jezz! i never thought about it though until your comment. wow!!! how interesting. that has now given me a whole new appreciation for the dark knight. it's a rare summer movie that has so many layers and it really is one of the best comic book movies made. probably the best. just for adding the a death in the family storyline/nod alone makes it great. that is until they film fearful symmetry. thank you for that.

Yes, Bruce Wayne suffered the loss of Rachel Dawes, but Joker wasn't doing that with knowledge of anything about Bruce Wayne. He used the Rachel/Harvey choice ploy to tear Batman in half, because he knew Batman cared for both of them - but for different reasons. He was testing the purity of Batman's motives ie: will he fight for his beliefs (a man who can possibly right the city from within the system) or his emotions (this girl that he jumped out a window for).
I never thought about the Death in the Family analogy, literally, though. I just got excited when I listened to the WAV file my friend sent me (the podcast) because I thought it was a better direction to take the story and a more natural direction given how TDK ended.
Man, I hate calling The Dark Knight TDK. It makes me think about all the old mix-tapes I don't listen to anymore.
But, yeah, thank you for pointing out the literal parallel. It seriously hadn't occurred to me. Now, I'll be even more disappointed if this turns out to be yet another Christopher Nolan red herring. At least the Cher as Catwoman was obvious . . . unless his swelling success has lead to a feeling of invincibility that often fuels a drug habit and the inability to self criticize in Holywood types. Hell. Some people don't even need drugs. I'm sure everybody remembers Kingdom of the Crystal Skull - though we'd like to forget.
Here's hoping this is real, because you helped get my hopes up even further.
You're my new friend.

[statikcat]

Bane/Azrael is about the only way Batman 3 can top 2. Joker is classic but Bane is a badass and put Batman back on the map in the 90s (in the comic world at least).