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Old 11-27-2008, 03:08 AM   #1
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Default Anyone know if "Casablanca" from Amazon France is region free?



Doesn't look like it says. I decided to order from Amazon France because I wanted the regular Blu-ray case, but I hope it's the same region.... it would suck to open it and find out that it won't play.
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Old 11-27-2008, 03:45 AM   #2
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Region free, most likely.
http://www.dvdfr.com/dvd/f150774_casablanca.html
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Old 11-27-2008, 08:40 AM   #3
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This release is identical with the german version which will be released on Dec 5th.
It comes in two editions (digipack and / or amaray case, both listed with pic and details at bluray-disc.de), you can get it at amazon.de and compare prices.

Allt the details:

Region Code All
Aspect Ratio (4:3, 1.37:1) 1920x1080p
Audio english, french, italian, swedish, greek --> DD 1.0
Subs english, german, french, italian, swedish, greek
Codec VC-1
Length 102min

Features 2 Discs (Blu-ray + DVD) with the folowing extras:
Audiokommentar:
1. von Filmkritiker Roger Ebert
2. von Filmhistoriker Rudy Behlmer
Documentation: "As Time Goes By", "Bacall on Bogart", "You Must Remember This: A Tribute to Casablanca",
Extended Scenes
short movie: "Carrotblanca"
Cutted Scenes
Trailer
Vorwort: von Lauren Bacall
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Old 11-27-2008, 12:34 PM   #4
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This release is identical with the german version which will be released on Dec 5th.
It comes in two editions (digipack and / or amaray case, both listed with pic and details at bluray-disc.de), you can get it at amazon.de and compare prices.

Allt the details:

Region Code All
Aspect Ratio (4:3, 1.37:1) 1920x1080p
Audio english, french, italian, swedish, greek --> DD 1.0
Subs english, german, french, italian, swedish, greek
Codec VC-1
Length 102min

Features 2 Discs (Blu-ray + DVD) with the folowing extras:
Audiokommentar:
1. von Filmkritiker Roger Ebert
2. von Filmhistoriker Rudy Behlmer
Documentation: "As Time Goes By", "Bacall on Bogart", "You Must Remember This: A Tribute to Casablanca",
Extended Scenes
short movie: "Carrotblanca"
Cutted Scenes
Trailer
Vorwort: von Lauren Bacall
It's interesting that the second disc of bonus features is a DVD rather than an BD (assuming the description is accurate). I know all the material is in standard definition, so technically it doesn't make any real difference. However, for anyone such as myself with a US Blu-ray player and a European (multi-region) DVD player, it does mean that a bonus DVD disc containing PAL material can be played on the DVD player, whereas it could not be played if it were technically a BD. (Of course the Casablanca extras may well be in NTSC anyway, but I'm making a general point.)

I hope other releasing Companies will follow this practice for any release that includes a second disc of extras entirely in standard definition.

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Old 11-27-2008, 01:46 PM   #5
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Is it BD-25 or BD-50
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Old 11-27-2008, 02:42 PM   #6
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Is it BD-25 or BD-50
It's a BD-50 Blu-ray
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Old 11-27-2008, 03:27 PM   #7
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It's a BD-50 Blu-ray
Is that confirmed?
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Old 11-28-2008, 06:15 AM   #8
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It's interesting that the second disc of bonus features is a DVD rather than an BD (assuming the description is accurate). I know all the material is in standard definition, so technically it doesn't make any real difference. However, for anyone such as myself with a US Blu-ray player and a European (multi-region) DVD player, it does mean that a bonus DVD disc containing PAL material can be played on the DVD player, whereas it could not be played if it were technically a BD. (Of course the Casablanca extras may well be in NTSC anyway, but I'm making a general point.)

I hope other releasing Companies will follow this practice for any release that includes a second disc of extras entirely in standard definition.
If your importing this to the USA, the DVD might be region 2 only.
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Old 11-28-2008, 08:54 AM   #9
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If your importing this to the USA, the DVD might be region 2 only.
Thanks for the warning () but I'm in the UK and have a multi-region DVD player anyway (see my signature below). I was making the point because I have a US Blu-ray player.
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Old 11-28-2008, 09:07 AM   #10
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This release is identical with the german version which will be released on Dec 5th.
It comes in two editions (digipack and / or amaray case, both listed with pic and details at bluray-disc.de), you can get it at amazon.de and compare prices.

Allt the details:

Region Code All
Aspect Ratio (4:3, 1.37:1) 1920x1080p
Audio english, french, italian, swedish, greek --> DD 1.0
Subs english, german, french, italian, swedish, greek
Codec VC-1
Length 102min

Features 2 Discs (Blu-ray + DVD) with the folowing extras:
Audiokommentar:
1. von Filmkritiker Roger Ebert
2. von Filmhistoriker Rudy Behlmer
Documentation: "As Time Goes By", "Bacall on Bogart", "You Must Remember This: A Tribute to Casablanca",
Extended Scenes
short movie: "Carrotblanca"
Cutted Scenes
Trailer
Vorwort: von Lauren Bacall
I checked the Amazon France web page and it's showing the French edition as only one disc. Is this correct or is it actually a 2-disc set? (I know Amazon often show incorrect information on their sites.)
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Old 11-28-2008, 10:03 AM   #11
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Is that confirmed?
According to my main source bluray-disc.de , yes.
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Old 11-28-2008, 11:20 AM   #12
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I checked the Amazon France web page and it's showing the French edition as only one disc. Is this correct or is it actually a 2-disc set? (I know Amazon often show incorrect information on their sites.)
It is a 2 - Disc Set, but only 1 Blu-ray and 1 DVD - mayvbe there is another edition?
Dor germany there are two releases, the one I already posted and one with special packaging (bluray-disc.de/filme/drama/2585-casablanca-ultimate-collector-s-edition)

But both come with the same features and specs, so amazon is most likely wrong
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It is a 2 - Disc Set, but only 1 Blu-ray and 1 DVD - mayvbe there is another edition?
Dor germany there are two releases, the one I already posted and one with special packaging (bluray-disc.de/filme/drama/2585-casablanca-ultimate-collector-s-edition)

But both come with the same features and specs, so amazon is most likely wrong
If it's a 2 disc set, then it's definitely a BD-25. WB is taking up this new practice of having 2 disc sets (1BD/1DVD) so as to not use a dual-layered BD. Strange. I'm not going to say I'm completely against it. It's better than what Universal is doing (leaving off extras altogether).
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If it's a 2 disc set, then it's definitely a BD-25. WB is taking up this new practice of having 2 disc sets (1BD/1DVD) so as to not use a dual-layered BD. Strange. I'm not going to say I'm completely against it. It's better than what Universal is doing (leaving off extras altogether).
Well as long as they don't use a thicker case to house the two discs, I don't object. In fact it could potentially be a good thing for anyone (such as myself!) who owns a US Blu-ray player and a European multi-region DVD player. If the standard definition extras are encoded in PAL (this has happened on some BDs such as the region-free UK release of 'The Shawshank Redemption'), a US Blu-ray player can not play them. So it's much better that they are hived off onto a separate DVD rather than being included on the BD.

On BDs released by the major Hollywood studios, the SD extras are normally in NTSC anyway, so it's not an issue in most cases - but it can arise on BDs from smaller independent releasing organisations in Europe, even when the film concerned is a major Hollywood film and the BD is not region-locked.

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Well as long as they don't use a thicker case to house the two discs, I don't object. In fact it could potentially be a good thing for anyone (such as myself!) who owns a US Blu-ray player and a European multi-region DVD player. If the standard definition extras are encoded in PAL (this has happened on some BDs such as the region-free UK release of 'The Shawshank Redemption'), a US Blu-ray player can not play them. So it's much better that they are hived off onto a separate DVD rather than being included on the BD.

On BDs released by the major Hollywood studios, the SD extras are normally in NTSC anyway, so it's not an issue in most cases - but it can arise on BDs from smaller independent releasing organisations in Europe, even when the film concerned is a major Hollywood film and the BD is not region-locked.
Yep. This is WB so they'd be NTSC.
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