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Old 04-21-2017, 07:02 PM   #1
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Exclamation List of technical issues on Arrow Video BDs + Replacement Program information

Title: The Beyond (UK)
Reason: Incorrect B&W opening
Replacement Program: Program closed, all new copies have the sepia opening although many feel that this is also incorrect and should look like it does on the Grindhouse Blu-ray.

Title: The Bird with the Crystal Plumage (Original UK BD)
Reason: Significantly altered aspect ratio, framing and colors.
Replacement Program: None, new remastered release will be released soon in the US/UK which most likely will not have the same issues.

Title: Zombie Flesh Eaters (UK)
Reason: Missing footage from start of the film after opening credits.
Replacement Program: All current editions have the corrected discs, if affected contact orders@arrowfilms.co.uk.

Title: Blind Woman's Curse (UK)
Reason: Wrong gamma level
Replacement Program: None, however all current US and UK discs have been corrected.

Title: Theatre of Blood (UK)
Reason: Glitches in special feature
Replacement Program: All current discs are corrected, if affected contact orders@arrowfilms.co.uk

Title: Shivers (UK)
Reason: Cut version included instead of Director's Cut
Replacement Program: All current discs are corrected, if affected contact orders@arrowfilms.co.uk.

Title: Blood and Black Lace (UK/US)
Reason: Missing picture at both sides due to 1.66:1 crop of 1.85:1 framing
Replacement Program: None, all discs in the UK/US are affected.

Title: Hellraiser III: Hell on Earth (UK/US)
Reason: Framing is off due to extra information showing crew members, sets and unfinished FX on the left-hand side.
Replacement Program: None, all discs are affected in the US/UK.

Title: Bride of Re-Animator (UK/US)
Reason: Original stereo track appears to be dual mono.
Replacement Program: None, all discs in the US/UK are affected.

Title: Creepshow 2 (US)
Reason: Framing is off due to extra information showing crew members, sets and unfinished FX on both sides and top/bottom.
Replacement Program: None, all discs are identical in the US.

Title: House (UK/US)
Reason: Framing is off due to extra information showing crew members, sets and unfinished FX on the left-hand side and top/bottom.
Replacement Program: None, all discs are affected in the US/UK.

Title: House II (UK/US)
Reason: Framing is off due to extra information showing goofs on the left-hand side.
Replacement Program: None, all discs are affected in the US/UK.

Unconfirmed Issues:

Title: House III (UK)
Reason: Framing is off in uncut scenes due to extra information showing more on the left-hand side.
Replacement Program: None.

Title: House IV (UK)
Reason: Framing is off due to extra information showing more on the left-hand side.
Replacement Program: None.

Title: Crimes of Passion (UK/US)
Reason: Framing is off due to extra information showing more on the left-hand side.
Replacement Program: None.

Title: The Stuff (UK/US)
Reason: Framing is off due to extra information showing more on the left-hand side.
Replacement Program: None.

Title: Dillinger(UK/US)
Reason: Framing is off due to extra information showing more on the left-hand side.
Replacement Program: None.
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Old 04-21-2017, 07:05 PM   #2
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CHUD theatrical cut doesn't have the theatrical audio.
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Old 04-21-2017, 07:08 PM   #3
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Gonna have to suck it up, folks.

Cry into whatever you want to cry into.

There most likely won't be a replacement program, no matter how long the list gets.
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Old 04-21-2017, 07:24 PM   #4
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Possible defect with US Arrow release for Donnie Darko. On the director's cut at chapter 8 shortly after the one hour and twenty second mark my copy freezes and then skips a few seconds. The disc is spotless. It may only occur when watching the entire film up until that point. I and someone else tried just skipping to that part and it worked fine. Not sure if there are any issues with the theatrical version.
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Old 04-21-2017, 07:25 PM   #5
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Lady Snowblood has the wrong gamma level too I believe.
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Old 04-21-2017, 08:30 PM   #6
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this sounds like a bunch of typical over-reactions - nitpicking from certain members looking for issues

I just read bluray.coms reviews of 3 of the films listed above and one "fault" wasn't even mentioned, and the other 2 were said to be unnoticeable.....

I think that framing issues such as The recent Hammer set that went from 1:66/1:85 aspect ratios to 2:35 is valid, this stuff doesn't appear to be....

PS-- I am not referring to the acknowledged discs that have replacement programs....
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Old 04-21-2017, 08:31 PM   #7
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this sounds like a bunch of typical over-reactions - nitpicking from certain members looking for issues

I just read bluray.coms reviews of 3 of the films listed above and one "fault" wasn't even mentioned, and the other 2 were said to be unnoticeable.....

I think that framing issues such as The recent Hammer set that went from 1:66/1:85 aspect ratios to 2:35 is valid, this stuff doesn't appear to be....
I'm not sure if you were referring to my post about Donnie Darko at all but if you were it definitely is an existing issue and not an attempt to find something wrong. Hopefully it's just a faulty disc on my end instead of being a mass issue. I also read their review for it but I don't know what version of the film they watched. There may be nothing wrong with the theatrical if that's the version they watched
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Old 04-21-2017, 08:35 PM   #8
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this sounds like a bunch of typical over-reactions - nitpicking from certain members looking for issues
The nitpickers are totally wrong, the makers of Creepshow II obviously meant for the animation to show as incomplete, and the shots were clearly composed so make sure you could see the light stand in the background.
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Old 04-21-2017, 08:50 PM   #9
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Regarding "Blood and Black Lace," wasn't it concluded that 1.66:1 was how it was supposed to be screened according to Bava or theatrical norms of the time or something? I'm at work, otherwise I'd look into it again myself.
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Old 04-21-2017, 09:00 PM   #10
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Quote:
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this sounds like a bunch of typical over-reactions - nitpicking from certain members looking for issues

I just read bluray.coms reviews of 3 of the films listed above and one "fault" wasn't even mentioned, and the other 2 were said to be unnoticeable.....

I think that framing issues such as The recent Hammer set that went from 1:66/1:85 aspect ratios to 2:35 is valid, this stuff doesn't appear to be....

PS-- I am not referring to the acknowledged discs that have replacement programs....
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I'm not sure if you were referring to my post about Donnie Darko at all but if you were it definitely is an existing issue and not an attempt to find something wrong. Hopefully it's just a faulty disc on my end instead of being a mass issue. I also read their review for it but I don't know what version of the film they watched. There may be nothing wrong with the theatrical if that's the version they watched
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Regarding "Blood and Black Lace," wasn't it concluded that 1.66:1 was how it was supposed to be screened according to Bava or theatrical norms of the time or something? I'm at work, otherwise I'd look into it again myself.

that's what I read, it was supposed to be 1:66, people are complaining about a compromised U.S. version!
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Old 04-21-2017, 09:01 PM   #11
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The nitpickers are totally wrong, the makers of Creepshow II obviously meant for the animation to show as incomplete, and the shots were clearly composed so make sure you could see the light stand in the background.
and the reviewer here didn't even notice it.....
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Old 04-21-2017, 09:41 PM   #12
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Going by whst a reviewr picks up on isn't exactly the best way to gauge whether there are issues or not. They're not exactly on the lookout for issues like many members here are. Pretty much all the issues mentioned sre valid, some just aren't a huge deal. Arrow even acknowledged some of them.

The only questionable one is for Blood and Black Lace, and ironically the site reviewer agrees that Arrow botched it. I also believe it was cropped incorrectly, but that's a whole can of worms I'd rather not reopen
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Old 04-21-2017, 10:02 PM   #13
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Going by whst a reviewr picks up on isn't exactly the best way to gauge whether there are issues or not. They're not exactly on the lookout for issues like many members here are. Pretty much all the issues mentioned sre valid, some just aren't a huge deal. Arrow even acknowledged some of them.

The only questionable one is for Blood and Black Lace, and ironically the site reviewer agrees that Arrow botched it. I also believe it was cropped incorrectly, but that's a whole can of worms I'd rather not reopen
not trying to argue but I would think the opposite... wouldn't a reviewer on a blu ray website be looking harder for quality issues?

I think you nailed it though on the comments about issues being valid but not a huge deal....
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Old 04-21-2017, 10:05 PM   #14
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not trying to argue but I would think the opposite... wouldn't a reviewer on a blu ray website be looking harder for quality issues?
This is the Internet, you get more views posting the first review than the most accurate one.

Here's a pretty thorough look at the misframed "Creepshow 2" disc, though be warned that it seems to take a while to load, because there are a lot of screenshots showing all sorts of issues:
http://www.dvdexotica.com/2017/02/co...creepshow.html
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According to the Vamp review it is not OAR. Another Lakeshore release
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Old 04-21-2017, 10:09 PM   #16
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Don't forget their release of Day Of The Dead being a DNR fest!
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Old 04-21-2017, 10:23 PM   #17
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not trying to argue but I would think the opposite... wouldn't a reviewer on a blu ray website be looking harder for quality issues?

I think you nailed it though on the comments about issues being valid but not a huge deal....
Not necessarily. They are usually on tight schedules, so they don't have time to focus on a particular title and analyze thoroughly. Many base their reviews from the impressions they get when watching the movie straight through. I believe that's what Pro-B said he does for instance. Reviewers are human, so I can't knock them from for missing things, or getting some stuff wrong. There's some in the forum that have more time to dedicate to a movie, and do things like analyze a still shot at 300% zoom to see if there's a hair on the lens, etc..
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Old 04-21-2017, 10:26 PM   #18
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not trying to argue but I would think the opposite... wouldn't a reviewer on a blu ray website be looking harder for quality issues?

I think you nailed it though on the comments about issues being valid but not a huge deal....
I have to disagree as well. Definitely not trying to argue or anything at all but I've noticed problematic discs that the reviews on here, Hi Def Digest or other sites didn't mention.
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