Pelle the Conqueror (1987)

[Oscar Rothman]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XRS68ZY...n%3A2650305011

[TheOneWithThePrize]

Interesting! I've been holding out for a good release of this film.

[javi92]

How does this compare to The Emigrants and The New Land?

[Purplenoon]

Originally Posted by javi92

How does this compare to The Emigrants and The New Land?

It has been 30 years since I've seen it. It's at least as good as those two, perhaps a bit more action, not quite as reflective. Might have been von Sydow's greatest role. Very interesting story as I remember. Probably a day one purchase for me.

[insomniac013]

Huh, I'm danish and live on Bornholm, but i still havent seen this film. Guess it's about time!

[sanjuro_61]

DVDBeaver Review: http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film6/blu-r...or_blu-ray.htm
Looks good: plenty of grain, good colors, maybe a bit too much bright/contrasty on some shots.

Length is 150 min., not 157 as listed here (IMDb says 157min too )

[nathanzachary]

Originally Posted by sanjuro_61

DVDBeaver Review: http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film6/blu-r...or_blu-ray.htm
Looks good: plenty of grain, good colors, maybe a bit too much bright/contrasty on some shots.

Length is 150 min., not 157 as listed here (IMDb says 157min too )

The only explanation that I can think of is that it was 157' in film format, and that it translated to 150' on the PAL DVDs and Blu-ray? That being said, I would have thought that Blu-rays would not have this discrepancy.

Any alternative explanations? I'd love to purchase this film on Blu-ray, but not if there are scenes missing. I don't believe that I've ever seen Film Movement cut a film that they've released, though.

[TheOneWithThePrize]

Per sfi.se the film is noted as being shown at the 157 minutes run time (156 in Denmark but that could be down to how either country rounds off the seconds). Swedish PAL-formatted TV airings are listed at 150 minutes (TV 1/SVT 1 and SVT 2 are commercial free btw). By comparison, the German BD which is 1080i50 is 144 minutes (2:23:46). The Swedish DVD was reportedly 144 minutes as well.

[HR Pufnstuf]

Thanks for posting the notes on the running time discrepancies. I had planned to order the blu ray tonight, but no sale until this is sorted out.

HR Pufnstuf

[nathanzachary]

I just sent an email to Film Movement asking about the discrepancy in running time. I will post their reply here once I get one.

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by sanjuro_61

Length is 150 min., not 157 as listed here (IMDb says 157min too )

Film Movement's original press kit for the restoration listed 157 mins, but the Blu-ray product page only lists 150 mins.

http://www.filmmovement.com/download...s%20Kit(2).pdf

http://www.filmmovement.com/filmcata...chandiseID=537

[rdodolak]

The BBFC lists a running time of 149m 53s and notes the work was passed uncut; classification date was 07/12/1988.

http://www.bbfc.co.uk/releases/pelle-conqueror-film

This NY Times article from 09/30/1988 also lists a 150m running time.

http://www.nytimes.com/movie/review?...AC0A96E948260?

[nathanzachary]

Great finds, rdodolak!

[sanjuro_61]

Thanks for th info.
Yes, probably someone did the math assuming 150 min was the PAL (25 fps) length.

[DMRI2006]

Originally Posted by sanjuro_61

DVDBeaver Review: http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film6/blu-r...or_blu-ray.htm
Looks good: plenty of grain, good colors, maybe a bit too much bright/contrasty on some shots.

Length is 150 min., not 157 as listed here (IMDb says 157min too )

IMDB is like the least accurate source for information, I realize it's invaluable for a lot of things but when it comes to accuracy it is often wrong, especially in this regard.

[TheOneWithThePrize]

When classified by Statens Medieråd (the Swedish equivalence to the BBFC), formerly Statens Biografbyrå, it was and is still listed with a 2:36:57 run time.

[Show spoiler]

PELLE ERÖVRAREN

Granskningsnummer
127267

Svensk titel
PELLE ERÖVRAREN

Originaltitel
PELLE EROBREREN

Regissör
AUGUST, BILLE

Beslutsdatum
1987-12-10

Skådespelare
BERNHARDSSON, LENA PIA
GRANATH, BJÖRN
VON SYDOW, MAX
TÖRNQVIST, KRISTINA
LARSEN, BUSTER
ASMUSSEN, TROELS
PAASKE, ERIK
HVENEGAARD, PELLE
JÖRGENSEN, MORTEN
STRÖBYE, AXEL
VILLAUME, ASTRID

Produktionsår
1987

Distributör
SVENSK FILMINDUSTRI AB

Antal klipp
0

Land
Danmark Sverige

Längd i tid
2:36:57

Filmtyp
Långfilm

Format
FILM Spelfilm Vidfilm Färgfilm

Beslut
Från 11 år

Similarly, Medierådet in Denmark list it with a 157 minute runtime as well.

[Show spoiler]

Pelle Erobreren
Original titel
Pelle Erobreren
Dansk titel
Pelle Erobreren
Medie
Film
Længde i minutter
157 minutter
Længde i meter
4280 meter
Producer
Per Holst
Instruktør
Ikke angivet
Producerende filmselskab
Ikke angivet
Distributør
Kærne Film

Nationalitet
Danmark
Produktionsår
Ikke angivet
Afgørelse
Tilladt for børn over 11 år
Vurderet dato
18. november 1987
Begrundelse
Ikke angivet
Handling
Efter bogen af samme navn.
Kommentarer
Ikke angivet

Makes me wonder if international theatrical releases may have been edited.

[HD Goofnut]

The new US disc blows away the old DE disc. It also has English subs.

http://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=104...0&a=1&go=0&l=1

[HR Pufnstuf]

Originally Posted by nathanzachary

I just sent an email to Film Movement asking about the discrepancy in running time. I will post their reply here once I get one.

Hi. I'm still unclear on the apparent discrepancy in running times. Is this settled yet?

HR Pufnstuf

[Cremildo]

A bit off-topic, but this might be of interest to fans:

HBO Nordic Greenlights 'Pele The Conqueror' Series

[TheOneWithThePrize]

Originally Posted by Cremildo

A bit off-topic, but this might be of interest to fans:

HBO Nordic Greenlights 'Pele The Conqueror' Series

Pele