Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by alchav21

Yes, Happy Streaming to you, this Tread has slowed down. I was texting this friend up in Portland, OR and asking him about Movies. He use to watch a fair amount of Movies and he would buy and rent. So I asked him if he bought or rented Movies anymore, and watched them on DVD or Blu-ray Player. He said all he does now is watch Amazon, Netflix, or DirectTV. He never buys or rents Discs anymore, and neither does anyone he knows. So the Disc or Digital is going heavy on the Digital HD! It's a One Horse Race and Always Digital is Winning!

By the way, don't you get cold under that bridge?

Or maybe you are nervous that Apple will buy Disney and that will be all she wrote for your beloved UV and Digital HD through Vudu.

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by alchav21

Yes, Happy Streaming to you, this Tread has slowed down. I was texting this friend up in Portland, OR and asking him about Movies. He use to watch a fair amount of Movies and he would buy and rent. So I asked him if he bought or rented Movies anymore, and watched them on DVD or Blu-ray Player. He said all he does now is watch Amazon, Netflix, or DirectTV. He never buys or rents Discs anymore, and neither does anyone he knows. So the Disc or Digital is going heavy on the Digital HD! It's a One Horse Race and Always Digital is Winning!

Originally Posted by Steedeel

So, in other words he doesnt care about film anymore. Not really the guy to ask was he? Sounds like he isn't a collector in the first place. It's like I said, Digital ahead is just going to end up being a niche.

It has to do with people in General, most just want to watch a Movie in their own comfort. Talking about Film, Cannes Film Festival had Netflix there and they Shunned them. Saying that Streaming wasn't really quality Film. So this feeling goes across a lot of Film Critics. To me it sounds a bit Snobbish, and Streaming has to come into it's own. Like I have been saying, it's all Digital now, and we just all have to get along!

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

By the way, don't you get cold under that bridge?

Or maybe you are nervous that Apple will buy Disney and that will be all she wrote for your beloved UV and Digital HD through Vudu.

Not really, like I said, I don't want to be a Clone. I'll always be on the PC Side, and not go to The Dark Side. You Apple Lovers will just keep going no matter what, even off a Cliff!

[zarquon]

Originally Posted by alchav21

Yes, Happy Streaming to you, this Tread has slowed down. I was texting this friend up in Portland, OR and asking him about Movies. He use to watch a fair amount of Movies and he would buy and rent. So I asked him if he bought or rented Movies anymore, and watched them on DVD or Blu-ray Player. He said all he does now is watch Amazon, Netflix, or DirectTV. He never buys or rents Discs anymore, and neither does anyone he knows. So the Disc or Digital is going heavy on the Digital HD! It's a One Horse Race and Always Digital is Winning!

So your friend has gone to subscription services only; no one here has argued that wasn't a trend, but this thread was always about actual movie *purchases*, and he apparently doesn't do that at all, either Blu-ray or Digital HD, so in this case, your point is moot.

[flyry]

Originally Posted by zarquon

So your friend has gone to subscription services only; no one here has argued that wasn't a trend, but this thread was always about actual movie *purchases*, and he apparently doesn't do that at all, either Blu-ray or Digital HD, so in this case, your point is moot.

My family members and people at work all seem to buy movies on Vudu or Amazon.

They think its weird I wait an extra 2 + weeks for the bluray

[whipnet]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Or maybe you are nervous that Apple will buy Disney and that will be all she wrote for your beloved UV and Digital HD through Vudu.

How would Apple buying Disney have any effect on UV?

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[randian]

Originally Posted by whipnet

How would Apple buying Disney have any effect on UV?

I think the belief is that Apple would remove UV from DMA if they bought Disney.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by randian

I think the belief is that Apple would remove UV from DMA if they bought Disney.

Apple would also have the opportunity to impose the DMA Keychest on all their titles. It would force the hand of Studios as you can't dismiss Disney.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by flyry

My family members and people at work all seem to buy movies on Vudu or Amazon.

They think its weird I wait an extra 2 + weeks for the bluray

Why care what people think? Quality is important to true film lovers and collectors.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by alchav21

Not really, like I said, I don't want to be a Clone. I'll always be on the PC Side, and not go to The Dark Side. You Apple Lovers will just keep going no matter what, even off a Cliff!

I am not a clone. Liking a particular companies products doesnt make me a clone. If you knew me, you would laugh at the clone comment.
I just go with what works for me. I swear by my IMac and MacBook. Had them years without issues. Apart from this site, (iPad doesn't like quote buttons) my iPad works a dream as well.

I like the best, which is why I still buy Blu-Ray. Soon that will be 4K Blu-Ray.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by alchav21

It has to do with people in General, most just want to watch a Movie in their own comfort. Talking about Film, Cannes Film Festival had Netflix there and they Shunned them. Saying that Streaming wasn't really quality Film. So this feeling goes across a lot of Film Critics. To me it sounds a bit Snobbish, and Streaming has to come into it's own. Like I have been saying, it's all Digital now, and we just all have to get along!

Film is a art form, it should be respected as such.

Guys, I really do need to leave this thread now, it's not good for my soul.

[huskerbear]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

By the way, don't you get cold under that bridge?

Or maybe you are nervous that Apple will buy Disney and that will be all she wrote for your beloved UV and Digital HD through Vudu.

How would this change anything? I mean, Disney and Apple are pretty much tied at the hip right now. UV was created in part because of the proprietary practices of company's like Disney and Apple.

[BlakkMajik3000]

Originally Posted by alchav21

Not really, like I said, I don't want to be a Clone. I'll always be on the PC Side, and not go to The Dark Side. You Apple Lovers will just keep going no matter what, even off a Cliff!

Ah, this brings back memories. Up until about a year ago, I had this exact mindset toward Apple products, and made assumptions about the people that use them.

Nowadays, I don't follow this logic at all. How does using an Apple product make you a clone? Is it the appearance? That doesn't even matter, because someone can own an iMac and/or a Macbook and use them 100% of the time with Windows. You can buy an iPhone or iPad and never use any of Apple's services (nearly all of Google's mobile apps are on iOS).

Android is the most popular mobile OS in the world (iPhones are prohibitively expensive in many countries), Windows is still the most used desktop/laptop OS, and Chrome is the most popular web browser, yet only people that use Apple products are referred to as "clones". Just because your hardware looks different, you are still using the same "brains" (OS) underneath.

Yes, with Windows PCs and Android phones you get almost unlimited choice in terms of hardware, but that's not always a good thing. A lot of complaints lobbed at Windows and Android aren't even applicable, because it's the hardware manufacturer that borked something.

[whipnet]

Originally Posted by randian

I think the belief is that Apple would remove UV from DMA if they bought Disney.

Remove what UV from DMA? What UV movies are DMA?

[whipnet]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Apple would also have the opportunity to impose the DMA Keychest on all their titles. It would force the hand of Studios as you can't dismiss Disney.

What Disney movies are UV?

[Texan26]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Or maybe you are nervous that Apple will buy Disney and that will be all she wrote for your beloved UV and Digital HD through Vudu.

Haha! Keep them coming!

"They're going to remove your digital movies."
"They're going to add commercials to your movies."
"New releases will go to subscription only services and end Digital HD sales."
"Apple is buying Disney and bringing down VUDU."

Sounds more like you're nervous that physical is slowly going away. Fewer and fewer TV shows are being released on blu-ray.

[master gandhi]

Originally Posted by whipnet

Remove what UV from DMA? What UV movies are DMA?

Originally Posted by whipnet

What Disney movies are UV?

Nothing from Disney is UV. If it's not DMA, it's also not UV. Touchstone titles are neither DMA or UV. Same thing with Disney's TV content. Star Wars Rebels is neither DMA or UV. So I don't even know what would change if Apple bought Disney.

[Dauntless]

So, to summarize, the big difference between Digital or Disc is Convenience vs Ownership and which is more important to you.

[Zu Nim]

A little graphic update on physical vs. digital through the end of 2016. Trends remained the same through 2017 so far, except digital sales are up 13%. My charts are based on DEG's data. Feel free to make your own predictions for 2017 and 2018.

[master gandhi]

Based on that chart, it looks like over the next 4-5 years, Digital and Physical sales will be about equal in revenue. But Digital subscription will vastly overshadow them both. As long as people can keep on collecting movies on their favorite format, it's all good.

This thread will likely whither away without Steedeel, so it looks like this very pointless debate will soon come to a close.