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Old 12-09-2008, 08:36 AM   #1
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Most people buy Blu-rays for the video quality, not the sound quality, although sound is important to nearly everyone (on some level) of course. And most people either share a home with someone or live in an apartment... so they rarely get an opportunity to crank up the sound beyond a fraction of its potential.

That said, I think it's ridiculous to completely trash a great looking Blu-ray just because the sound is not up to some audiophile's specs.

So I have spoken. So let it be written.

CF

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Old 12-09-2008, 08:45 AM   #2
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I buy because of the audio.

I think this is true of many people. I could stick with DVD if the PQ was exactly the same but audio was lossless.
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Old 12-09-2008, 08:56 AM   #3
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[QUOTE=CrazyFool;1384061]Most people buy Blu-rays for the video quality, not the sound quality, although sound is important to nearly everyone (on some level) of course. And most people either share a home with someone or live in an apartment... so they rarely get an opportunity to crank up the sound beyond a fraction of its potential

I don't agree with this statement ! most people DO buy BLU - RAY for both PQ & AQ !! Not just mainlly for the picture !!
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Old 12-09-2008, 09:12 AM   #4
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Sorry, even a fool outranks a blue stain. You are overruled crazyBLUE.
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Sorry, even a fool outranks a blue stain. You are overruled crazyBLUE.
Even a fool with Bose headphones?
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Old 12-09-2008, 09:19 AM   #6
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Even a fool with Bose headphones?
Yep! I'm saving up for something better. Apartment dweller. Just grabbed Bose off the shelf for 'something'. Cost $125. I'd say there are worth about $35.
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Old 12-09-2008, 09:23 AM   #7
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yup... try Sennheiser, Grado, Acoustic Research, etc. for better price-to-quality ratios... if you really wanna go nuts on some headphones, buy the Grado GS-1000's

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Old 12-09-2008, 09:28 AM   #8
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yup... try Sennheiser, Grado, Acoustic Research, etc. for better price-to-quality ratios... if you really wanna go nuts on some headphones, buy the Grado GS-1000's
Thanks man.
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Old 12-09-2008, 09:29 AM   #9
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oh and before i get dissed for the AR suggestion... they're cheap but they don't sound nearly as cheap as they are... for a $50 pair of headphones you get far better than most $50 offerings
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yup... try Sennheiser, Grado, Acoustic Research, etc. for better price-to-quality ratios... if you really wanna go nuts on some headphones, buy the Grado GS-1000's
Do you really need an amp with headphones? I'm not sure that I understand what the function of a headphone amp really is. Thanks.
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I live in A condo !! yes I do have people living all around me ; nice thing is there over enjoying the AQ & PQ so loudness levels don't matter !!
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Do you really need an amp with headphones? I'm not sure that I understand what the function of a headphone amp really is. Thanks.
depending on the headphones you may. also a headphone amp can "color" the sound to improve it... for example; my sennheiser headphones work just fine with the output on my stereo amp i use to push my B&W speakers, but would maybe sound nicer with a tube headphone amp, however, due to their power hungriness i can not use them with an ipod or CD player very well as they won't go very loud.
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depending on the headphones you may. also a headphone amp can "color" the sound to improve it... for example; my sennheiser headphones work just fine with the output on my stereo amp i use to push my B&W speakers, but would maybe sound nicer with a tube headphone amp, however, due to their power hungriness i can not use them with an ipod or CD player very well as they won't go very loud.
Thanks.

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Old 12-09-2008, 10:27 AM   #14
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depending on the headphones you may. also a headphone amp can "color" the sound to improve it... for example; my sennheiser headphones work just fine with the output on my stereo amp i use to push my B&W speakers, but would maybe sound nicer with a tube headphone amp, however, due to their power hungriness i can not use them with an ipod or CD player very well as they won't go very loud.
I should add that I do not have a home theater stereo amp either as I'm stuck in an apartment with anal neighbors so I'm plugging my headphone directly into the TV at this point. If I bought a pair of high end headphones I would have no amp (such as you have).
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Old 12-09-2008, 11:05 AM   #15
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Audio is extemely important. I have no idea how anyone even listens through their tv speakers. We never watched dvd's and the crappy audio was part of the reason along with all the crappy "fullscreen" movies.
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Most people buy Blu-rays for the video quality, not the sound quality, although sound is important to nearly everyone (on some level) of course. And most people either share a home with someone or live in an apartment... so they rarely get an opportunity to crank up the sound beyond a fraction of its potential.

That said, I think it's ridiculous to completely trash a great looking Blu-ray just because the sound is not up to some audiophile's specs.

So I have spoken. So let it be written.

CF
And I think it's ridiculous for you to foist your opinion upon others.

I can't even make use of lossless audio right now but I won't pick up a new release if it doesn't have lossless audio. Fortunately, the only major studio not doing 100% lossless releases is Warner.

Likewise, if I know there was a DVD version with extras, I won't pick up a bare-bones featureless Blu-Ray even though I probably wouldn't watch any of them.

If you don't care about the audio, don't read that portion of the reviews. I personally hate seeing the reviews of the actual movie because what constitutes a good movie is completely different for each person. The only reason I look at the movie review section is to get a feel of the reviewer's attitute toward it. If they are completely negative about the movie, I usually assume that their review of the other portions (audio/video/extras) will be negatively impacted by that fact. Likewise, if the reviewer gushes about how great a release is (for instance, this site's review of Lost Season 4: "the best television show in the history of the medium." To me, if that is true then it shows just how crappy TV has been so far. FYI, I can't stand Lost.), I feel that they are more likely to give positive ratings.

(P.S., sorry to interrupt your headphone discussion by talking about the actual topic of this thread)
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(P.S., sorry to interrupt your headphone discussion by talking about the actual topic of this thread)
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Most people buy Blu-rays for the video quality, not the sound quality, although sound is important to nearly everyone (on some level) of course. And most people either share a home with someone or live in an apartment... so they rarely get an opportunity to crank up the sound beyond a fraction of its potential.

That said, I think it's ridiculous to completely trash a great looking Blu-ray just because the sound is not up to some audiophile's specs.
My significant other likes movies loud like I do so I get to crank it up whenever I want. That being said, the audio is the most important part for me. I enjoy crappy movies with great sound - I love Stealth

Now if I can say that I love a movie like Stealth, then I think it's plenty fair to say that I didn't enjoy a decent movie with a crappy soundtrack. That doesn't mean that I hated it either, just means that I don't enjoy it as much as a movie with a great sound mix.
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Old 12-09-2008, 11:19 AM   #19
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Wow caliminius,

You are even more full of yourself than I am, and that's saying something!
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Old 12-09-2008, 11:24 AM   #20
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I guess what I meant to say in my original post is that... a Blu-ray that has super video quality, great extras, and a solid movie but does not have audio up to "audiophile specs" should not be rated a ZERO... because it could be incredibly enjoyable (far more so than a DVD) to 95% of the population. So suck on that!
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