The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (1966) (50th Anniversary Edition)

[Poya]

Hypothetically, if there was a UHD release of this, would the HDR help balance out the colors more to make them more natural, provided Kino actually does do HDR?

[skinjob69]

Cancelled my pre-order based on the reviewer's comments about the presentation of the archival supplements as I don't want to have to keep older copies around just to view them in decent quality. If they correct this I will reconsider a purchase.

[thatguy1985]

Cancelled pre-order as well based on feedback seen here. Would be curious to see results of a 4K UHD pass with proper HDR and color grading.

[murch13]

Originally Posted by skinjob69

Cancelled my pre-order based on the reviewer's comments about the quality of the archival supplements as I don't want to have to keep older copies around just to view them in decent quality. If they correct this I will reconsider a purchase.

I wonder if they'll issue any replacement discs? It's an issue of going from 29.97 sd to 23.98, unless they are using the mgm extras masters from Europe (pal) and that would lead to even bigger frame/field issues. There's lots of software out there that does a great job with these kinds of conversions. It's a shame no one caught it before the discs went out.

[Bates_Motel]

Originally Posted by thatguy1985

Cancelled pre-order as well based on feedback seen here. Would be curious to see results of a 4K UHD pass with proper HDR and color grading.

You could potentially get some of the clipped highlights back (similar to Independence Day and several others) but whoever does it needs to go back to the original scan and start over.

[thatguy1985]

Originally Posted by Bates_Motel

You could potentially get some of the clipped highlights back (similar to Independence Day and several others) but whoever does it needs to go back to the original scan and start over.

Arrow *cough, cough*, Criterion *cough, cough*

[stvn1974]

I blew out my budget for blu-rays this month thanks to the BN Criterion sale so I will have to get this at the beginning of September. Until then I will be entertained by the back and forth of this thread.

[djchaseb]

Easily one of my favorite films of all time and I felt based on the review I had to cancel my preorder. Very disappointing. I'll just live with the Mondo version.

[MassiveMovieBuff]

I just hope the new upcoming releases for Fistful of Dollars and For A Few Dollars More end up turning out better.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by ROSS.T.G.

Warm color temp varies from display to display. Reference is 6503k which on most sets is called warm. Red, blue and green are all even so whites will look white. If too much red, whites will look warm, too much blue, image will look cool. Green stands out the most since our eyes are more sensitive to green. If you select a warm temp over say a cool temp then yes this transfer may look more yellow. But keep in mind all monitors that are used for mastering are calibrated to 6503k so you are seeing exactly what you should be seeing. Most people prefer a cooler image, if you do then you will most likely prefer the Kino release.

My display is correctly calibrated to D65 and I still dislike the piss-yellow timing and shitty blacks of the MGM 2014 version.

For a laugh I took some quick 'n' dirty photos of my telly showing the MGM disc with the proper calibrated temp and then with my TV set to Cool.

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[murch13]

Originally Posted by MassiveMovieBuff

I just hope the new upcoming releases for Fistful of Dollars and For A Few Dollars More end up turning out better.

The FOD master they are using has the same green/yellow tint. (Actual still from the restoration company website below). Thankfully FAFDM is a brand new scan...but probably done by the same company.

[MassiveMovieBuff]

Originally Posted by murch13

The FOD master they are using has the same green/yellow tint. Thankfully FAFDM is a brand new scan.

I read Quentin Tarantino recently saw a screening for a new 4K remaster of Fistful at Cannes (not sure if it's Kino's) and he said it looked nice but he was upset that Cannes didn't ask tell him ahead of time so he could bring his print instead.

[PuppetMasterBlu]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Any chance this will be $15 or less?

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Good-The-...-ray/103814017
This is as close as it gets.

[Leterface]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Any chance this will be $15 or less?

I got my copy for around $9.50 (8 euros) after selling the 2014 version w restored sound and I think I will be more happy with 1 disc in my collection than more taking shelf space (gave the previous MGM disc to my dad a few years ago)

[murch13]

Originally Posted by MassiveMovieBuff

I read Quentin Tarantino recently saw a screening for a new 4K remaster of Fistful at Cannes (not sure if it's Kino's) and he said it looked nice but he was upset that Cannes didn't ask tell him ahead of time so he could bring his print instead.

Here's a quote :

Question: What are the prints you prize most?

Tarantino: I have all three Sergio Leone Clint Eastwood movies in I.B. Technicolor. Magnificent-looking. I just saw the DCP restoration of A Fistful of Dollars at Cannes. I introduced it. I felt like I was watching a DVD. I said, "Why didn’t you ask me to bring my ****ing print?" They said, ‘Well, there was three extra minutes in this." I said, "I’ve seen that movie a million times and I didn’t notice those extra minutes. I just noticed that it looked like a ****ing DVD."

http://www.laweekly.com/publicspecta...beverly-cinema

[Dr. Humbert]

Originally Posted by murch13

Here's a quote :

Question: What are the prints you prize most?

Tarantino: I have all three Sergio Leone Clint Eastwood movies in I.B. Technicolor. Magnificent-looking. I just saw the DCP restoration of A Fistful of Dollars at Cannes. I introduced it. I felt like I was watching a DVD. I said, "Why didn’t you ask me to bring my ****ing print?" They said, ‘Well, there was three extra minutes in this." I said, "I’ve seen that movie a million times and I didn’t notice those extra minutes. I just noticed that it looked like a ****ing DVD."

http://www.laweekly.com/publicspecta...beverly-cinema

He should do his own Blu-ray release.

[MassiveMovieBuff]

Originally Posted by murch13

Here's a quote :

Question: What are the prints you prize most?

Tarantino: I have all three Sergio Leone Clint Eastwood movies in I.B. Technicolor. Magnificent-looking. I just saw the DCP restoration of A Fistful of Dollars at Cannes. I introduced it. I felt like I was watching a DVD. I said, "Why didn’t you ask me to bring my ****ing print?" They said, ‘Well, there was three extra minutes in this." I said, "I’ve seen that movie a million times and I didn’t notice those extra minutes. I just noticed that it looked like a ****ing DVD."

http://www.laweekly.com/publicspecta...beverly-cinema

Yeah it sounds similar to the quote I read but he also stated that it looked nice but nowhere near the print quality obviously. I know he's not a fan of blu ray in general for some reason. Most likely because he watches the prints to everything instead.

[eurospec19]

I haven't come across any article where he states the DCP looked nice.

[MassiveMovieBuff]

“I just had a really uncomfortable experience in Cannes this last year, because they had the 50th anniversary of ‘Fistful Of Dollars’ ” said the director, who was invited to help present the film. “They showed this 4K restoration. I have an IB Technicolor, a beautiful Techniscope print of ‘Fistful Of Dollars’ —I could have brought that. Anyway, we have all the big speeches, we all talk, it’s the closing night of the Cannes Film Festival, and I sit down…this is a movie I’ve seen a million times. Did it look nice? Yeah, it looks nice, but my laserdisc looks nice, my DVD looks nice, alright? We’re not talking about nice. I was depressed the whole screening because I’m sitting in the Grand Palais, the big house, and I felt like I should be pointing the remote control at the screen and hitting play. I was like, where’s the f’ing menu?”

“Is that fine in my home? Yeah, absolutely it’s fine in my home, I don’t think about it. But in the Palais, I felt like there was some glass between me and the movie that wouldn’t have been there had we shown the 35mm print,” Tarantino continued, saying the experience made him “double down” on his programming approach at the New Beverly.

This is an article from indiewire.com

[ThulsaMike88]

Man, I love Tarantino. I really feel the same way about special screenings. It feels so strange going to the big classic movie theaters and seeing DCP's...I mean, they look nice, but it just kind of kills the atmosphere for me. I recently went to a screening of The Good, The Bad and The Ugly at a local classic theater that shows 35mm prints, thinking it would be a print, and they instead showed the digital version, and it was just disappointing all around.