List of International BDs with Better PQ, AQ, and/or More Extras - Page 213 - Blu-ray Forum

NLScavenger · 10-18-2017, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Early Memphis

Yes, but the software HD uses is ... a bit costly, especially for something I have no real need for.

You can make a backup of the entire disc with MakeMKV and then do a BDInfo scan on the backup. MakeMKV is free while in beta.

knifethrower · 10-18-2017, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NLScavenger

You can make a backup of the entire disc with MakeMKV and then do a BDInfo scan on the backup. MakeMKV is free while in beta.

You beat me to it! I do the same thing, make a full backup with MakeMKV then run BDInfo against the backup.

Early Memphis · 10-20-2017, 12:07 AM

BTW, just to confirm: The German Kiss Of The Dragon (AVC) is noticeably sharper/better than the US release (MPEG-2). That might seem obvious but I’ve seen posts saying there was no improvement. The real head-scratcher is why the 6.1 DTS-HD Master Audio sounds less defined than the US 5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio. I went back and forth well after I determined that there was a slight but definite PQ improvement and I’d swear I was listening to a lossy track on the German disc as opposed to a lossless US track. And, although the US BD is a Db or two hotter, that doesn’t seem to explain the AQ difference.

P.S. The German release may have all the extras the US Anchor Bay release didn’t have. I’ll have to double check that against the US DVD, but there were a bunch (mostly titled in German on the DE disc menu).

HD Goofnut · 10-20-2017, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Early Memphis

BTW, just to confirm: The German Kiss Of The Dragon (AVC) is noticeably sharper/better than the US release (MPEG-2). That might seem obvious but I’ve seen posts saying there was no improvement. The real head-scratcher is why the 6.1 DTS-HD Master Audio sounds less defined than the US 5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio. I went back and forth well after I determined that there was a slight but definite PQ improvement and I’d swear I was listening to a lossy track on the German disc as opposed to a lossless US track. And, although the US BD is a Db or two hotter, that doesn’t seem to explain the AQ difference.

P.S. The German release may have all the extras the US Anchor Bay release didn’t have. I’ll have to double check that against the US DVD, but there were a bunch (mostly titled in German on the DE disc menu).

The 2015 re-release in the US with AVC actually looks better than the DE disc: http://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=527...0&a=1&go=0&l=1

That's why it's not in the list.

senseabove · 10-20-2017, 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NLScavenger

You can make a backup of the entire disc with MakeMKV and then do a BDInfo scan on the backup. MakeMKV is free while in beta.

I'm using Mac and have a BD Player. When I open BDInfo, it offers me one button: "Open BDVM folder," but I click that button and browse the disc I only see an individual "BDMV" file, and in a "CERTIFICATES" folder I see an "id.bdmv" file (and another one at a lower level). So they're files, not folders, and the V and M are swapped. Neither of those files (nor any others, for that matter) are available as an option to select in BDInfo.

What am I missing?

Early Memphis · 10-20-2017, 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

The 2015 re-release in the US with AVC actually looks better than the DE disc: http://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=527...0&a=1&go=0&l=1

That's why it's not in the list.

Well, first off, thanks a lot!

The DE was on the list as best PQ when I added it to my buy list. I did post the list and asked for comments/advice, but no-one, wink-wink, nudge-nudge, said anything.

In any case, you might want to put it back with the Anchor Bay release being best PQ if that's the case (and unless this goes down to $5, I ain't buying it again to find out

Beating a dead horse... bringing up/asking something that has been discussed a thousand times before

). According to the thread title ("... and/or More Extras"), the DE disc should be listed as it has a raft of extras and Anchor Bay's release is bare bones all the way.

Previous List Entry:
US - AVC 21635 kbps, DTS-HD HR 6.1 3018 24-bit, extras, English subs (Region free)
UK/AU/DE (2011 Release) - AVC 19978 kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 1853 16-bit, more extras, Eng subs (RF) Best PQ

HD Goofnut · 10-20-2017, 01:42 PM

Added The Curse of the Mummy's Tomb and The Gorgon.

NLScavenger · 10-21-2017, 08:02 AM

The Thing Arrow Video BDInfo. Best PQ without a doubt.

Code:

DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     THE THING
Disc Size:      48.815.528.197 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No
BDInfo:         0.5.8

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00003.MPLS
Length:                 1:48:36.551 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   32.061.255.360 bytes
Total Bitrate:          39,36 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        29959 kbps          1080p / 23,976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
LPCM Audio                      English         2304 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz / 2304 kbps / 24-bit
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         2889 kbps       4.1 / 48 kHz / 2889 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 4.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         1682 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 1682 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio             English         192 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             English         192 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         18,103 kbps

HD Goofnut · 10-21-2017, 06:26 PM

Added Fragment of Fear and The Thing (1982).

HD Goofnut · 10-22-2017, 06:43 PM

Added Fanatic.

HD Goofnut · 10-22-2017, 11:31 PM

Added Anne of the Indies.

barrett75 · 10-23-2017, 05:44 AM

what about sid and nancy? Criterion or SC? i'd say Criterion...

http://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&a...=88787&i=2&l=0

oliviergregoire · 10-23-2017, 02:31 PM

The Belko Experiment

US - AVC 29513 kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 4024 kbps 48 kHz 24-bit
DE - AVC 29525 kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 4030 kbps 48 kHz 24-bit

Does it change that much?????

wesslan · 10-23-2017, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oliviergregoire

The Belko Experiment

US - AVC 29513 kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 4024 kbps 48 kHz 24-bit
DE - AVC 29525 kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 4030 kbps 48 kHz 24-bit

Does it change that much?????

Not for this list if there aren't any improvements though

wesslan · 10-23-2017, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barrett75

what about sid and nancy? Criterion or SC? i'd say Criterion...

http://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&a...=88787&i=2&l=0

Criterion for sure this time around.

HD Goofnut · 10-24-2017, 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wesslan

Criterion for sure this time around.

+1. No contest there.

HD Goofnut · 10-24-2017, 03:08 AM

Updated Dead Man and The Wraith.

jerclay · 10-26-2017, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NLScavenger

The Thing Arrow Video BDInfo. Best PQ without a doubt.

Code:

DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     THE THING
Disc Size:      48.815.528.197 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No
BDInfo:         0.5.8

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00003.MPLS
Length:                 1:48:36.551 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   32.061.255.360 bytes
Total Bitrate:          39,36 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        29959 kbps          1080p / 23,976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
LPCM Audio                      English         2304 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz / 2304 kbps / 24-bit
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         2889 kbps       4.1 / 48 kHz / 2889 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 4.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         1682 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 1682 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio             English         192 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             English         192 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         18,103 kbps

Comparison is up:

http://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=11006&d2=11009&c=4380

HD Goofnut · 10-26-2017, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerclay

Comparison is up:

http://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=11006&d2=11009&c=4380

I did this several days ago, but thank you.

edmoney · 10-26-2017, 08:47 PM

This is such a great thread and an invaluable resource. I have two questions in trying to understand the list better:

1. If multiple versions of a title are listed but there is no designation as to "Best PQ" or "Best AQ," does that mean a viewing or screen cap comparison was done but the verdict is inconclusive (i.e. no clear winner)? Or does it mean no comparison has been done yet?
2. I can understand why if the US version is the best, then it won’t be listed. Otherwise, the list would probably be too huge an undertaking. However, how do we know that a title is not on the list because the US version is the best vs. it not being on the list because no one has done a comparison yet?

Thanks, keep up the great work.

10-20-2017, 12:07 AM	#4243
Early Memphis Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Feb 2012 Location:Texas 4K collection:9 Blu-ray collection:1233 DVD collection:127 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:657	BTW, just to confirm: The German Kiss Of The Dragon (AVC) is noticeably sharper/better than the US release (MPEG-2). That might seem obvious but I’ve seen posts saying there was no improvement. The real head-scratcher is why the 6.1 DTS-HD Master Audio sounds less defined than the US 5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio. I went back and forth well after I determined that there was a slight but definite PQ improvement and I’d swear I was listening to a lossy track on the German disc as opposed to a lossless US track. And, although the US BD is a Db or two hotter, that doesn’t seem to explain the AQ difference. P.S. The German release may have all the extras the US Anchor Bay release didn’t have. I’ll have to double check that against the US DVD, but there were a bunch (mostly titled in German on the DE disc menu).

10-20-2017, 01:42 PM	#4247
HD Goofnut Blu-ray King Top contributor Member since:May 2010 Location:Far, Far Away Home Theater Gallery:114 4K collection:743 Blu-ray collection:2371 DVD collection:128 MA collection:751 Digital collection:1093 Prime collection:598 Blu-ray reviews:133 Trading Score:39	Added The Curse of the Mummy's Tomb and The Gorgon.

10-21-2017, 06:26 PM	#4249
HD Goofnut Blu-ray King Top contributor Member since:May 2010 Location:Far, Far Away Home Theater Gallery:114 4K collection:743 Blu-ray collection:2371 DVD collection:128 MA collection:751 Digital collection:1093 Prime collection:598 Blu-ray reviews:133 Trading Score:39	Added Fragment of Fear and The Thing (1982).

10-22-2017, 06:43 PM	#4250
HD Goofnut Blu-ray King Top contributor Member since:May 2010 Location:Far, Far Away Home Theater Gallery:114 4K collection:743 Blu-ray collection:2371 DVD collection:128 MA collection:751 Digital collection:1093 Prime collection:598 Blu-ray reviews:133 Trading Score:39	Added Fanatic.

10-22-2017, 11:31 PM	#4251
HD Goofnut Blu-ray King Top contributor Member since:May 2010 Location:Far, Far Away Home Theater Gallery:114 4K collection:743 Blu-ray collection:2371 DVD collection:128 MA collection:751 Digital collection:1093 Prime collection:598 Blu-ray reviews:133 Trading Score:39	Added Anne of the Indies.

10-23-2017, 05:44 AM	#4252
barrett75 Special Member Member since:Feb 2014 Location:Italy	what about sid and nancy? Criterion or SC? i'd say Criterion... http://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&a...=88787&i=2&l=0

10-23-2017, 02:31 PM	#4253
oliviergregoire Active Member Member since:Jul 2012 Location:Paris, France 4K collection:6 Blu-ray collection:308	The Belko Experiment US - AVC 29513 kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 4024 kbps 48 kHz 24-bit DE - AVC 29525 kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 4030 kbps 48 kHz 24-bit Does it change that much?????

10-24-2017, 03:08 AM	#4257
HD Goofnut Blu-ray King Top contributor Member since:May 2010 Location:Far, Far Away Home Theater Gallery:114 4K collection:743 Blu-ray collection:2371 DVD collection:128 MA collection:751 Digital collection:1093 Prime collection:598 Blu-ray reviews:133 Trading Score:39	Updated Dead Man and The Wraith.

10-26-2017, 08:47 PM	#4260
edmoney Senior Member Member since:Jun 2014 Location:New Jersey, USA Trading Score:1	This is such a great thread and an invaluable resource. I have two questions in trying to understand the list better: 1. If multiple versions of a title are listed but there is no designation as to "Best PQ" or "Best AQ," does that mean a viewing or screen cap comparison was done but the verdict is inconclusive (i.e. no clear winner)? Or does it mean no comparison has been done yet? 2. I can understand why if the US version is the best, then it won’t be listed. Otherwise, the list would probably be too huge an undertaking. However, how do we know that a title is not on the list because the US version is the best vs. it not being on the list because no one has done a comparison yet? Thanks, keep up the great work.

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