Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by talkingpictures

Digital for me! I admit blu-ray is superior but I don't have a huge home cinema setup to really notice the difference. I also never used to watch special features so I don't mind the majority of digital movies not having them.

Don't let the Disc Lovers change your mind, now with the right set up and Bandwidth the Quality is negligible. I have a Sony UHD TV with a Fiber connection, and my Streaming Digital HD Movies are Fantastic. So Streaming and Disc are becoming seamless, so that argument about Quality Disc or Digital HD is becoming Moot!

[The_Donster]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Everyone does it. I bet you have done it if you trawl through some past posts.

"Only A Sith Deals In Absolutes" Seriously, nut up or shut up man. You've been barking up this tree so long you are starting to sound hoarse. So If you aren't willing to take a picture maybe someone else in the UK or abroad can take a picture to show how well physical media is doing there?

Originally Posted by tob

Did anyone mention how it can be embarrassing for that person to be taking a photo in a shop.

Nah, not buying that argument either. I constantly have my phone out taking pictures or scanning prices through the ShopSavvy app to find the best prices on things of interest to me. Keep in mind, I'm usually doing this with my 8 year old in tow. No one thinks twice about it. If anything, I get better customer service because of it.

Originally Posted by alchav21

Don't let the Disc Lovers change your mind, now with the right set up and Bandwidth the Quality is negligible. I have a Sony UHD TV with a Fiber connection, and my Streaming Digital HD Movies are Fantastic. So Streaming and Disc are becoming seamless, so that argument about Quality Disc or Digital HD is becoming Mute!

Dude, are you also only here to stir the pot? Because you are equally making a poor argument for digital with posts like this. As I said in an earlier post, you are the opposite side of the coin to Steedeel in your arguments. Why can't you be objective as the other pro digital owners. I for one, see the benefits of both.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by flyry

I don't like blind buys. I mean I had a few in the DVD days but that was canon stuff.

I don't want to spend $13.99 on some indie I may not like that most likely won't get a 4k disc (brawl being a rare exception).

I do wish they had an option though if you liked the rental to get the digital purchased at a discounted price.

I rented it for $6.99, I don't want to spend another $13.99 if I liked it.

I tend to have a good idea that I will love the film before I buy it. I follow stuff from pre production all the way through where possible. It’s extremely rare I buy a dud. There is nothing like blind buying, especially with the quality that Blu-ray represents.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by The_Donster

"Only A Sith Deals In Absolutes" Seriously, nut up or shut up man. You've been barking up this tree so long you are starting to sound hoarse. So If you aren't willing to take a picture maybe someone else in the UK or abroad can take a picture to show how well physical media is doing there?



Nah, not buying that argument either. I constantly have my phone out taking pictures or scanning prices through the ShopSavvy app to find the best prices on things of interest to me. Keep in mind, I'm usually doing this with my 8 year old in tow. No one thinks twice about it. If anything, I get better customer service because of it.



Dude, are you also only here to stir the pot? Because you are equally making a poor argument for digital with posts like this. As I said in an earlier post, you are the opposite side of the coin to Steedeel in your arguments. Why can't you be objective as the other pro digital owners. I for one, see the benefits of both.

It would be impossible. It’s like you guys with your Best Buy posts. Some stores will be thriving on a particular day, others might be having a quiet day. It is not evidence of any kind. It is antidotal as you know.
Just read between the lines, imo the biggest success in terms of Digital sellthrough in the U.K. is a store that provides a DVD or Blu-ray as part of the package. Also, 3D Blu-ray is still readily available here while I understand it is all but dead on the U.S? We love our discs here and we love Netflix. That’s it pretty much. The BBC and ITV, C4 and Sky covers everything else.
Anyway, that’s me done. You have been playing the (imo) smart ass since day one regarding my posts so seeing as you love to throw around insults let’s leave it there with one of my own.

[whipnet]

Originally Posted by alchav21

so that argument about Quality Disc or Digital HD is becoming Mute!

Well you're still talking about it, so the argument is not mute at all.

Or did you mean moot?

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[Dynamo of Eternia]

Originally Posted by The_Donster

Dude, are you also only here to stir the pot? Because you are equally making a poor argument for digital with posts like this. As I said in an earlier post, you are the opposite side of the coin to Steedeel in your arguments. Why can't you be objective as the other pro digital owners. I for one, see the benefits of both.

This! VERY MUCH this!

[Dynamo of Eternia]

Originally Posted by whipnet

Well you're still talking about it, so the argument is not mute at all.

Or did you mean moot?

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I think he meant that it's a moo point.

[Dynamo of Eternia]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

It would be impossible. It’s like you guys with your Best Buy posts. Some stores will be thriving on a particular day, others might be having a quiet day. It is not evidence of any kind. It is antidotal as you know.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't at least a big part of the point of people requesting that you take these photos to prove how big the media section is, regardless of how busy it is on the particular day that you are there? If so, then the media section should be the same size regardless of how many people are in a store at a given time.

Bare in mind that I really don't care one way or the other if you bother taking these photos. It doesn't impact me. But you keep "moving the goal posts" with your arguments about why you shouldn't bother.

[The_Donster]

Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't at least a big part of the point of people requesting that you take these photos to prove how big the media section is, regardless of how busy it is on the particular day that you are there? If so, then the media section should be the same size regardless of how many people are in a store at a given time.

Bare in mind that I really don't care one way or the other if you bother taking these photos. It doesn't impact me. But you keep "moving the goal posts" with your arguments about why you shouldn't bother.

This too for me. Both alchav21 and he have turned a simple question, Physical or Digital (?) into their personal crusade. Neither seem to really contribute much outside of it or when they do, stir it back to it. That's where I have a problem. Because in this thread it should simply be Physical, Digital, Both, Neither.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia

You don't have to do anything. Frankly I don't personally care one way or the other. But if your main reason for not doing so is summed up in those last couple of sentences, then that's really all that needed to be said. All of the other silly, lame excuses were not really needed.

If you simply don't want to bother, fine. But don't act like it's this huge undertaking and that you can't risk taking your personal mobile, portable phone with you (which the whole point of why they even exist is for people to take them along wherever they go) for fear that it might get damaged, and that during the split second of you taking a photo, the kid will have time to make it to another country and you will have no clue where he is.

Also, you can't take pics for personal reasons on your work phone (and then just transfer it to your computer and delete it from the phone), but keeping presumably personal-based emergency contacts is okay? I get that emergency contacts are comparatively far more important than taking photos of some movie discs, but in either scenario you are at least in part using your work phone for personal reasons.

The emergency numbers are exactly that. If something happens and I can’t get in touch with my clients family, the other numbers are for standby. I never make personal calls at work. In other words, it’s a necessity not personal gain.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by The_Donster

This too for me. Both alchav21 and he have turned a simple question, Physical or Digital (?) into their personal crusade. Neither seem to really contribute much outside of it or when they do, stir it back to it. That's where I have a problem. Because in this thread it should simply be Physical, Digital, Both, Neither.

Well leave the thread then. If you feel it has reached the stage where it is pointless, leave! No one is forcing you to read my posts.

[talkingpictures]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/1426...-purchases-too

So if you buy the digital version on Sky Store you get a blu-ray copy that also has a digital HD code? Seems a bit redundant. If only we had VUDU here in the UK, all those packaged codes would be worth keeping.

[flyry]

Originally Posted by talkingpictures

So if you buy the digital version on Sky Store you get a blu-ray copy that also has a digital HD code? Seems a bit redundant. If only we had VUDU here in the UK, all those packaged codes would be worth keeping.

Vudu does it too but not for everything. I wish they did it for UHD discs

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by talkingpictures

So if you buy the digital version on Sky Store you get a blu-ray copy that also has a digital HD code? Seems a bit redundant. If only we had VUDU here in the UK, all those packaged codes would be worth keeping.

I don’t think you get a code. Just the Blu-ray. I will try to find out.

[flyry]

I was just in my local target. They do have the movies in the farthest corner of the electronics section. Took me a while to find the 4K section as its 4 puny rows on a small endcap. Not even facing teh front. Those prices aren't doing the format any favors. They had almost everything at $29.99 even stuff that wasn't WB. It's why I prefer to shop online when I do buy physical.

[talkingpictures]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I don’t think you get a code. Just the Blu-ray. I will try to find out.

I checked under their returns and they said you can return the blu-ray provided it's in resalable condition, which I assume means sealed. Codes are inserted inside cases before they're sealed, so the blu-rays should come with UV HD codes unless Sky take them out and reseal the cases.

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by The_Donster

Dude, are you also only here to stir the pot? Because you are equally making a poor argument for digital with posts like this. As I said in an earlier post, you are the opposite side of the coin to Steedeel in your arguments. Why can't you be objective as the other pro digital owners. I for one, see the benefits of both.

This too for me. Both alchav21 and he have turned a simple question, Physical or Digital (?) into their personal crusade. Neither seem to really contribute much outside of it or when they do, stir it back to it. That's where I have a problem. Because in this thread it should simply be Physical, Digital, Both, Neither.

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Well leave the thread then. If you feel it has reached the stage where it is pointless, leave! No one is forcing you to read my posts.

Steedeel, you and I may not see things eye to eye but we have some great discussions. I never felt this Thread was a Poll, but why one would pick Digital HD or Physical. Of course there are benefits to both, but I feel Digital HD should not be put down. It has come a long way from the beginning of this Post. So if people prefer Disc, that's fine just don't put Digital HD down that's all I ask!

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by talkingpictures

I checked under their returns and they said you can return the blu-ray provided it's in resalable condition, which I assume means sealed. Codes are inserted inside cases before they're sealed, so the blu-rays should come with UV HD codes unless Sky take them out and reseal the cases.

Yeah, unless people are sadomasochists the digital codes do seem worthless. I would rather not bother than use Flixster even if discs didn’t exist lol.

Obviously, the common sense thing to do would be for Sky HD copies to be Movies Anywhere compliant but I don’t see UK customers treated that well. It would take Disney to make things happen over here and I wouldn’t hold my breath. No matter, I am strictly Blu-ray anyway.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by alchav21

Steedeel, you and I may not see things eye to eye but we have some great discussions. I never felt this Thread was a Poll, but why one would pick Digital HD or Physical. Of course there are benefits to both, but I feel Digital HD should not be put down. It has come a long way from the beginning of this Post. So if people prefer Disc, that's fine just don't put Digital HD down that's all I ask!

The thing is, I believe Digital is a bad thing for the future of movies. It’s hard for me to spout positives in that respect.

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by alchav21

Steedeel, you and I may not see things eye to eye but we have some great discussions. I never felt this Thread was a Poll, but why one would pick Digital HD or Physical. Of course there are benefits to both, but I feel Digital HD should not be put down. It has come a long way from the beginning of this Post. So if people prefer Disc, that's fine just don't put Digital HD down that's all I ask!

Originally Posted by Steedeel

The thing is, I believe Digital is a bad thing for the future of movies. It’s hard for me to spout positives in that respect.

You don't have to spout positive, but don't be so negative. Like I have always said, it's all Digital now so it shouldn't really matter. I say you either Stream from a Disc or you Stream from a Server. Movies put on a Disc or put on a Server are still Digital, so where is the downfall. I really can't see a difference, because we are talking about the same thing Stored on a Disc or Stored on a Server......Same, Same!