Dunkirk 4K UHD (2017) - Page 47 - Blu-ray Forum

Eusthenopteron · 11-08-2017, 04:02 PM

The new banner is slightly thicker I think too. Therefore the image is very slightly cropped at the top of the new one. Still way better than our UK one.

And I still prefer this to that Korean Steelbook that sold out in a heartbeat.

Vilya · 11-08-2017, 04:59 PM

Christopher Nolan gave this interview with Variety that some of you might find interesting. He talks about Dunkirk and the state of movies and more:

http://variety.com/2017/film/news/ch...rg-1202607836/

I posted this in the regular Dunkirk blu-ray thread, but I am posting it here, too, as this thread seems livelier.

RockyIII · 11-08-2017, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vilya

Christopher Nolan gave this interview with Variety that some of you might find interesting. He talks about Dunkirk and the state of movies and more:

http://variety.com/2017/film/news/ch...rg-1202607836/

I posted this in the regular Dunkirk blu-ray thread, but I am posting it here, too, as this thread seems livelier.

Very interesting interview, and it is true that intricate plots and sub-plots ar better left to television and not to movies

Manea776 · 11-08-2017, 08:16 PM

Hi guys regarding region A does it support Arabic subtitle ?

Pieter V · 11-09-2017, 09:49 PM

bluescholar · 11-09-2017, 11:11 PM

LOL @ that picture of Nolan in front of the plane. It just makes me laugh for some reason.

Vilya · 11-09-2017, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bluescholar

LOL @ that picture of Nolan in front of the plane. It just makes me laugh for some reason.

It is not as funny as this old gem:

Snicket · 11-09-2017, 11:49 PM

The new cover also drops the mention of a digital copy.

fistymusic · 11-14-2017, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by RockyIII

We will never know for sure having only 5.1 mix now, will we?

Are you kidding me. 5.1 only. Not even 7.1. Who's lost the plot here, Christopher Nolan or Warner Bros or both. I think it's time they get with the times. Every Reciever / Processor these days decodes Atmos or X. Totally disappointing.

Merkur · 11-14-2017, 04:47 AM

Oh my God! This should be pinned somewhere:

NOLAN HAS NO INTEREST IN ANYTHING OTHER THAN 5.1! DON'T EXPECT ATMOS OR 7.1!

When he changes his mind, we'll let you know.
I was one of the first people who were pissed off that he didn't do an Atmos mix for Dunkirk because it would've been cool to hear planes and stukas from above and gun shots all over. But he didn't and that's okay. I've accepted it and moved on

It's a shame but can we move on already?

NegaScott128 · 11-14-2017, 04:56 AM

Blu-Ray.com users: "I want my favorite films to be represented exactly as they were supposed to be seen on Blu-Ray."

Also Blu-Ray.com users: "F#ck you, Nolan, give me an Atmos mix!"

Merkur · 11-14-2017, 05:23 AM

LOL! I'm actually very conflicted about this whole situation. I respect his decision but I'm very curious on how Dunkirk would've sounded in Atmos.
I don't care about the old ones, but the fact that's he's stuck with 5.1 in 2017 when 7.1/Atmos became the default (Not a positive thing at all).

FilmFreakosaurus · 11-14-2017, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Merkur

Oh my God! This should be pinned somewhere:

NOLAN HAS NO INTEREST IN ANYTHING OTHER THAN 5.1! DON'T EXPECT ATMOS OR 7.1!

When he changes his mind, we'll let you know.
I was one of the first people who were pissed off that he didn't do an Atmos mix for Dunkirk because it would've been cool to hear planes and stukas from above and gun shots all over. But he didn't and that's okay. I've accepted it and moved on

It's a shame but can we move on already?

The trouble is, they're usually not very good 5.1 mixes either. The guy is tone deaf, I tell ya!

BozQ · 11-14-2017, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

The trouble is, they're usually not very good 5.1 mixes either. The guy is tone deaf, I tell ya!

I have to agree. Christopher Nolan is not just colour blind, he's deaf too. The bass in his sound mixes are so damned loud, the dialogue is often muffled.

Laserdisk · 11-14-2017, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BozQ

I have to agree. Christopher Nolan is not just colour blind, he's deaf too. The bass in his sound mixes are so damned loud, the dialogue is often muffled.

It's less a mix and more an accident

OutOfBoose · 11-14-2017, 09:16 AM

Well, Dunkirk was definitely the loudest film of recent times. For some reason bullets hitting metal sounded more loud than bombs.

Merkur · 11-14-2017, 10:47 AM

Regular DCP was very typical in my opinion. The IMAX mix though...
It's funny how the louder you play it, the less you can hear the dialogue (but again it wasn't that bad - at least for my taste).
It was uncomfortable at times but I kinda loved it. The magic of a dynamic mix. Albeit a bit too dynamic.

Pieter V · 11-14-2017, 10:56 AM

This may sound stupid, but could Nolan done a loud mix, just to mask the loudness of those IMAX cameras?

Geoff D · 11-14-2017, 10:57 AM

Nolan doesn't really do dynamic, he just does LOUD and he pitches the dialogue right on the cusp of intelligibility. With something like Inception the dialogue is much clearer (it has to be, the movie revolves around its constant exposition) but IIRC Nolan said in an interview that he wanted to move away from that kind of narrative focus in his movies, that the dialogue was less important to the experience in Interstellar and now Dunkirk.

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Originally Posted by Pieter V

This may sound stupid, but could Nolan done a loud mix, just to mask the loudness of those IMAX cameras?

You know that sound mixes aren't done on location, right? That everything aside from the dialogue (for which scenes he used the soundproofed 5-perf cameras anyway) is basically re-recorded and remixed from scratch on a dubbing stage? You may well be joking but I had someone else on another forum start talking about how they "didn't record on the set for Atmos only 5.1" so I just wanna be sure...

Pieter V · 11-14-2017, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

Nolan doesn't really do dynamic, he just does LOUD and he pitches the dialogue right on the cusp of intelligibility. With something like Inception the dialogue is much clearer (it has to be, the movie revolves around its constant exposition) but IIRC Nolan said in an interview that he wanted to move away from that kind of narrative focus in his movies, that the dialogue was less important to the experience in Interstellar and now Dunkirk.

You know that sound mixes aren't done on location, right? That everything aside from the dialogue (for which scenes he used the soundproofed 5-perf cameras anyway) is basically re-recorded and remixed from scratch on a dubbing stage? You may well be joking but I had someone else on another forum start talking about how they "didn't record on the set for Atmos only 5.1" so I just wanna be sure...

No, I wasn't joking, that's why I said it might be a stupid idea.

I know it's all post-production work all done in the suite. But some people mentioned they did hear the IMAX cameras on Interstellar.

Nolan fixed that problem using 65mm on, yes.

11-14-2017, 04:47 AM	#930
Merkur Senior Member Member since:Mar 2015 4K collection:7 Blu-ray collection:33	Oh my God! This should be pinned somewhere: NOLAN HAS NO INTEREST IN ANYTHING OTHER THAN 5.1! DON'T EXPECT ATMOS OR 7.1! When he changes his mind, we'll let you know. I was one of the first people who were pissed off that he didn't do an Atmos mix for Dunkirk because it would've been cool to hear planes and stukas from above and gun shots all over. But he didn't and that's okay. I've accepted it and moved on It's a shame but can we move on already? Last edited by Merkur; 11-14-2017 at 05:16 AM.

11-08-2017, 04:02 PM	#921
Eusthenopteron Expert Member Top contributor Member since:Nov 2010 Location:Darlington, County Durham 4K collection:355 Blu-ray collection:950 DVD collection:57 Blu-ray reviews:2	The new banner is slightly thicker I think too. Therefore the image is very slightly cropped at the top of the new one. Still way better than our UK one. And I still prefer this to that Korean Steelbook that sold out in a heartbeat.

11-08-2017, 04:59 PM	#922
Vilya Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Sep 2011 Location:In the gloaming 4K collection:776 Blu-ray collection:5296 DVD collection:3918 Digital collection:1699 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:17	Christopher Nolan gave this interview with Variety that some of you might find interesting. He talks about Dunkirk and the state of movies and more: http://variety.com/2017/film/news/ch...rg-1202607836/ I posted this in the regular Dunkirk blu-ray thread, but I am posting it here, too, as this thread seems livelier.

11-08-2017, 08:16 PM	#924
Manea776 New Member Member since:Nov 2017	Hi guys regarding region A does it support Arabic subtitle ?

11-09-2017, 09:49 PM	#925
Pieter V Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Oct 2010 Location:The Netherlands Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:14

11-09-2017, 11:11 PM	#926
bluescholar Senior Member Member since:Oct 2016	LOL @ that picture of Nolan in front of the plane. It just makes me laugh for some reason.

11-09-2017, 11:49 PM	#928
Snicket Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jul 2010 4K collection:625 Blu-ray collection:1160 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:56	The new cover also drops the mention of a digital copy.

11-14-2017, 04:56 AM	#931
NegaScott128 Banned Member since:Feb 2015	Blu-Ray.com users: "I want my favorite films to be represented exactly as they were supposed to be seen on Blu-Ray." Also Blu-Ray.com users: "F#ck you, Nolan, give me an Atmos mix!"

11-14-2017, 05:23 AM	#932
Merkur Senior Member Member since:Mar 2015 4K collection:7 Blu-ray collection:33	LOL! I'm actually very conflicted about this whole situation. I respect his decision but I'm very curious on how Dunkirk would've sounded in Atmos. I don't care about the old ones, but the fact that's he's stuck with 5.1 in 2017 when 7.1/Atmos became the default (Not a positive thing at all).

11-14-2017, 09:16 AM	#936
OutOfBoose Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Aug 2015 Location:The City Blu-ray collection:1	Well, Dunkirk was definitely the loudest film of recent times. For some reason bullets hitting metal sounded more loud than bombs.

11-14-2017, 10:47 AM	#937
Merkur Senior Member Member since:Mar 2015 4K collection:7 Blu-ray collection:33	Regular DCP was very typical in my opinion. The IMAX mix though... It's funny how the louder you play it, the less you can hear the dialogue (but again it wasn't that bad - at least for my taste). It was uncomfortable at times but I kinda loved it. The magic of a dynamic mix. Albeit a bit too dynamic.

11-14-2017, 10:56 AM	#938
Pieter V Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Oct 2010 Location:The Netherlands Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:14	This may sound stupid, but could Nolan done a loud mix, just to mask the loudness of those IMAX cameras?

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