Stranger Things: Season 1 4K UHD (2016) (Collector's Edition) (Target Exclusive)

[ROSS.T.G.]

It’s still worth the buy for those like myself who haven’t purchased the BD’s since they come with the set. It is surprising to see a lack of HDR but to leave out a lossless track is mind boggling when the BD’s have it.

[nonametofame]

I'm used to now having 4K or 3D releases stripped of Dolby Atmos, and I'm dumbfounded that the Atmos track is relegated to only the 2D blu-ray disc.

I've managed to sync up two players, using the secondary player to play the Atmos track. It's not ideal, but it seems I can now count on studios to botch releases, but am grateful they still include the blu ray disc.

[flyry]

Originally Posted by mar3o

You seem to have a problem here with anybody who isn't showering this release with praise. Interesting.



You'd whine too if they dropped UHD support from all TVs next year.

AH AH AH.

Never gonna happen

[TM2-Megatron]

I'm still planning to upgrade to the 4K release despite its deficiencies.

Personally, the lack of HDR doesn't really bother me that much. I have a few SDR UHD Blus already (live Opera recordings), and the quality of each has been very impressive. More disappointing is the lower-quality audio encode vs the lossless audio available on the (presumably) lesser blu-ray version. I can live with it, though.

[Monkeker]

I got the first set for free because the dvd's that came with it were scratched so they gave me a full refund. So I will be picking up the 4k set when it is available.

[guachi]

This forum saved me some scratch by not buying the blu-ray version AND I get to pester my wife to get this for me for Christmas.

Double win!!!!

[Klownicle]

Has anyone found this in stock on BrickSeek? Ever since the SNES crap, I can't trust them for Target, they seem to turn off the results occasionally. Anyone found a zip code with it available?

[storythecorgi]

Last year Target had their Black Friday Blu-ray deals on sale on Monday (low key, without announcing it). I wonder if Stranger Things will be marked down early next week?

[Croweyes1121]

What’s the point of people pointing out that the Blu-rays with the lossless audio are still included? How does that make it any less annoying that you can’t watch the episodes in 4K WITH the lossless audio?! I would have been all over this, but seriously, the Blu-rays are already reference and blow the 4K stream away. I doubt I could even tell much difference, in any, from a normal viewing distance. And lossy audio on top of it is just a deal-breaker for me. Maybe if this had HDR it would be a little harder of a decision.....man, what a disappointment.

[PowellPressburger]

Epic fail on the audio. That will hurt sales. I’m not4K ready yet... but I would have future proofed with this set...now it’s a no Sale and no regrets. The current BLU set with true had 5.1 is the only way to go.

Sad thing is sales will be really bad for the 4K and Netflix will think it is because no one wanted it not because they had no clue how to release it.

[Leonidas King]

Originally Posted by Croweyes1121

What’s the point of people pointing out that the Blu-rays with the lossless audio are still included? How does that make it any less annoying that you can’t watch the episodes in 4K WITH the lossless audio?! I would have been all over this, but seriously, the Blu-rays are already reference. I doubt I could even tell much difference, in any, from a normal viewing distance. And lossy audio on top of it is just a deal-breaker for me. Maybe if this had HDR it would be a little harder if a decision.....man, what a disappointment.

I'm fine with my standard edition. It already looks stunning upscaled to 4K anyway plus lossless audio which is essential.

[eddievanhalen]

Even if the UHD BD version is not HDR mastered the video may be encoded at 10 bit so color will look better as this is technically Wide Color Gamut.
I take 10 bit video over 8 bit video any day of the week.

[willbfree]

Maybe the audio will be lossy but will be at a very high bitrate.

[johndoyle123]

Anyone in remorse want to sell me there 4K for
A markup ?

[Croweyes1121]

Originally Posted by willbfree

Maybe the audio will be lossy but will be at a very high bitrate.

It’s 640kbps.

[Croweyes1121]

Originally Posted by eddievanhalen

Even if the UHD BD version is not HDR mastered the video may be encoded at 10 bit so color will look better as this is technically Wide Color Gamut.
I take 10 bit video over 8 bit video any day of the week.

And I’ll take TrueHD 24bit audio over DD5.1 any day, too. What’s your point? No one is arguing that the video won’t be better. But making the audio worse is just unforgivable.

[StarkRomanoff]

Originally Posted by Croweyes1121

What’s the point of people pointing out that the Blu-rays with the lossless audio are still included? How does that make it any less annoying that you can’t watch the episodes in 4K WITH the lossless audio?! I would have been all over this, but seriously, the Blu-rays are already reference and blow the 4K stream away. I doubt I could even tell much difference, in any, from a normal viewing distance. And lossy audio on top of it is just a deal-breaker for me. Maybe if this had HDR it would be a little harder of a decision.....man, what a disappointment.

What's the point? Because you and others are still complaining that the 4K doesn't have lossless audio and you get that with the blu-ray. So if you are picking the blu-ray/DVD release over the 4K/Blu-ray release because of THAT, it's pretty dumb. I'm an audio person but I'll pick 4K image over DVD any day.

[willbfree]

Originally Posted by Croweyes1121

It’s 640kbps.

...divided by six channels, yeah that is terrible.

That said, does that mean that each channel is around 100kbps, with a corresponding frequency cutoff around, oh, 16kHz is about where an old fashioned 128kbps audio file would end.

Or does Dolby Digital do something fancy to preserve more than that? Can Dolby Digital have up to 22kHz even so?

[birdztudio]

Originally Posted by TheSweetieMan

Well, I'm going to go back to sleep.

But before I do, allow me to say this: The Duffer Brothers originally graded this series in rec.709. It's shot at 4K. It has a 4K-DI. It has a consistently high video bitrate.

If you truly care about viewing this season in the highest quality possible--and as the show creators originally intended for this to be seen--you'd buy this, and continue to support physical media, as well as the possibility of Netflix releasing 4K blu-ray discs in the future.

Holding your standard to a superficial standard of every. single. thing. having to have an HDR or Dolby Vision grade, is incredibly eye-roll inducing.

This is a fantastic looking release. Reference-worthy in every sense in terms of providing fans of this show, the best way you can currently experience it.

Take it or leave it.

no offense really but you also mean lossy audio?

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by eddievanhalen

Even if the UHD BD version is not HDR mastered the video may be encoded at 10 bit so color will look better as this is technically Wide Color Gamut.
I take 10 bit video over 8 bit video any day of the week.

That it is 10 bit vs. 8 bit has very little to do with wide color gamut per se.

It just allows a finer gradation of the limited range encompassing the Rec. 709 color space and assisting in less visible banding.

Rec 709 is not considered a wide color gamut. Cinema P3, Rec. 2020 and beyond are.