The Criterion Collection

[AaronJ]

Originally Posted by RCRochester

Yes, we've been gifted our fair share of rodents as well. He's a large male cat and kind of the alpha of the neighbourhood so he was probably feeling strong that day. Like I said though, it was a bit of a mess so it probably won't happen again.

The funny thing is, I love cats. I don't have any now, but the ones I have had I truly loved.

And yet, they are the most brutal animals alive.

[Rich Pure Doom]

Originally Posted by RCRochester

Oh, it's not the concept of The Birds that I have issue with (although as creepy as they are, I can't find myself getting too intimidated by a creature that my cat gifts to me on my doorstep every few months). I just find that there's a lot of dead air particularly during the earlier part of the film. It's not that I want wall-to-wall bird action, I just think some of the build-up could have been trimmed a bit.

But I also personally am more interested in messed-up humans, so films like Marnie or Vertigo are more compelling to me than a weird, unexplained phenomenon of birds going nutso.

Really couldn't disagree more. The first thirty minutes or so are my favorite portion of the film.

[BagheeraMcGee]

I always thought Oliver Stone's run from 1985-1999 was impressive:

Salvador
Platoon
Wall Street
Talk Radio (when is this coming to Blu-ray?)
Born On The Fourth Of July
The Doors
JFK
Heaven And Earth
Natural Born Killers
Nixon
U-Turn
Any Given Sunday (theatrical version only; I hated

[Show spoiler]the "eye"

scene in the director's cut, which I thought was completely unnecessary)

I'd say that The Doors and Any Given Sunday are the weakest entries of that run, but that's a really solid decade and a half, with a few classics thrown in there. I re-watched U-Turn recently and liked it more this time around than when I saw it theatrically.

[AaronJ]

I think Hitch did what he often did: Set up a situation that seemed obvious, then turned it on its head.

Not to mention that Tippi Hedren was insanely gorgeous and many of those introductory scenes were weird and creepy at the same time.

Tippi Hedren~Jessica Tandy. The Birds (1963) Scene HD 720p (Hitchcock) - YouTube

[bwdowiak]

Originally Posted by 20th Century Boy

Legit won this subsection of the thread with this right here.

He was bound to.. with all of the darts he was throwing.

[bwdowiak]

I have yet to see a Hitchcock film that I didn't like. Every time I go into a film that is supposed to be a "misfire," I walk away pleasantly surprised. I've seen probably 30 of his films, so maybe I've avoided some of the real duds, but I Confess, Topaz, Family Plot... all really enjoyable in their own ways. They exceeded my expectations.

...and I think The Birds is fantastic.

[Rich Pure Doom]

Originally Posted by bwdowiak

I have yet to see a Hitchcock film that I didn't like. Every time I go into a film that is supposed to be a "misfire," I walk away pleasantly surprised. I've seen probably 30 of his films, so maybe I've avoided some of the real duds, but I Confess, Topaz, Family Plot... all really enjoyable in their own ways. They exceeded my expectations.

...and I think The Birds is fantastic.

Obviously, you haven't seen The Paradine Case.

[Ray Jackson]

Apparently Alfred Hitchcock had a bit of the Harvey Weinstein in him.

At least according to Tippi Hedren.

...that's a shame.

[Hoke Moseley]

If you don't count The Keep (which he disowned) Michael Mann from '81 to '99 is pretty untouchable.

Thief, Manhunter, The Last of the Mohicans, Heat, The Insider.... and I would personally stretch it all the way to Miami Vice, but I know some people will question that (along with Ali).

[bwdowiak]

Originally Posted by Rich Pure Doom

Obviously, you haven't seen The Paradine Case.

no. I have not.

was going to pick it up recently... I wanted to pair it w/ something else for free shipping and couldn't decide on the "something else," so I didn't get it.

[Rich Pure Doom]

Originally Posted by Hoke Moseley

If you don't count The Keep (which he disowned) Michael Mann from '81 to '99 is pretty untouchable.

Thief, Manhunter, The Last of the Mohicans, Heat, The Insider.... and I would personally stretch it all the way to Miami Vice, but I know some people will question that (along with Ali).

Both Ali and Last of the Mohicans ruin that run for me. The rest are all great though.

[AaronJ]

Originally Posted by Ray Jackson

Apparently Alfred Hitchcock had a bit of the Harvey Weinstein in him.

At least according to Tippi Hedren.

...that's a shame.

Wrong.

[CRM 114]

Originally Posted by Ray Jackson

Apparently Alfred Hitchcock had a bit of the Harvey Weinstein in him.



At least according to Tippi Hedren.



...that's a shame.

Yet no one else he worked with has come out with any such accusations.

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by AaronJ

Wrong.

What part? Certainly not to the extent of Weinstein, but Hitchcock's sexual harassment notoriety is well established.

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by CRM 114

Yet no one else he worked with has come out with any such accusations.

So because he didn't do it to multiple people, it somehow invalidates one person who came forward? That makes sense. It's this victim shaming that has allowed people like this to get away with it for so long, and it's still happening right here, which is pretty sad.

[bwdowiak]

such a nice conversation that played out over 5+ pages, it seems...

do we have to get into this discussion on this thread right now? I like coming here to not hear about who touched who.

[ShellOilJunior]

They are up early. An exciting month!

#909 Marked for Death
#910 Over the Top
#911 Playboy directed by Michael Bay: Miss September 1990
#912 House Party 3
#913 Kickboxer 2

[BarnDoor]

I'd kill for a Criterion Marked for Death.

[RCRochester]

Originally Posted by bwdowiak

such a nice conversation that played out over 5+ pages, it seems...

do we have to get into this discussion on this thread right now? I like coming here to not hear about who touched who.

I was going to weigh in, but after reading this I decided not to. It's a topic that only leads to discord and derailing of threads.

[Hoke Moseley]

Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid or Lone Star in February would make me a happy camper.