HDR Discussion Thread

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/p...censing_v2.pdf

Only a very minor point but it's interesting that the SDR to HLG camera matching LUT is best used in 'full range' mode to use the below black/above white parts of the SDR signal.

[BrownianMotion]

Originally Posted by disrember

I also have a 2016 samsung TV (JS8000) and obviously can view netflix in HDR which I think means HLG is working.... but none the wiser. I also have the samsung 4k bluray player which should support it as well. who knows.

Ok, there's a ton wrong with this post.

First, the JS8000 is a 2015 TV.

Second, Netflix has exactly 0 HLG content.

Third, if you are referring to the Samsung K8500 player, then it doesn't support HLG. The 2017 Samsung players do (M9500/M8500/M7500.)

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/p...censing_v2.pdf

Geoff understands LUTs, but for the more novice readership who might be totally unfamiliar with the concept, either search my old posts using the word

LUT

or perhaps watch a YouTube video which explains it. I think there’s more than one online.

[Staying Salty]

http://variety.com/2017/digital/spot...ab-1202630433/

The Lab is working to advance HDR’s capabilities with HDR10+, an open, royalty-free HDR technology featuring “dynamic metadata,” which more precisely adjusts content to the capabilities of different TVs.

“Scene by scene and even frame by frame, that movie is being adjusted to be optimized to that particular TV,” Kaye says.

Doesn’t give any details.

[eddievanhalen]

I live in Spain and the public national broadcaster TVE has three test 4K channels nation wide. They broadcast the same material on a loop for the whole day which is the guard change at Palacio Real in Madrid. The three 4K channels broadcast the same but one is in HDR10, the second is HLG and the third one is SDR. My early 2017 49'' 4K Samsung sets displays both HDR10 and HLG 'though HLG is not cited anywhere on the owner's manual, but with both HDR10 and HLG the on screen info displays "HDR" but doesn't tell in what format, thankfully the channels are labeled with each HDR system, well actually the HDR10 broadcast is labeled as PQ HDR.
My parent's 2016 Samsung 4K set also displays both HDR10 and HLG of these channels displaying "HDR" on its on screen info. There are difference in picture quality also between HDR10 and HLG, I think HDR10 looks better with more natural colors than HLG.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Although these aren’t necessarily the HDR iterations (UHD Blu-rays), since awards season is approaching I thought folks might be curious as to knowing what Blu-rays (as opposed to only the regular old DVD screeners of past years) have gone out so far to various voting groups and since I don’t know where else to post it, here’s the list so far –

Get Out (Blu-ray)
Beauty and the Beast (Blu-ray/DVD)
War of the Planet of the Apes (Blu-ray/DVD combo pack)
Atomic Blonde (Blu-ray)
Split (Blu-ray)
Despicable Me 3 (Blu-ray)
The Lego Batman Movie (Blu-ray)
Wonder Woman (Blu-ray)
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (Blu-ray)
Cars 3 (Blu-ray)
The Beguiled (Blu-ray)
First They Killed my Father (Blu-ray)
Victoria & Abdul (Blu-ray)
Mudbound (Blu-ray)
Detroit (Blu-ray)
American Made (Blu-ray)

Add Blade Runner 2049 (Blu-ray) already received by voters this week vis-à-vis UPS.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Staying Salty

http://variety.com/2017/digital/spot...ab-1202630433/

Doesn’t give any details.

I’m still waiting for a progress report on their collaborative reference monitor…..
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/be...llywood-985937

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Well, the good thing is my wrist is healing up fine and I should be 100% for a group ride with some Disney folk come 2nd weekend in Dec.

Will share anything I can after the ride tomorrow afternoon.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Add Blade Runner 2049 (Blu-ray) already received by voters this week vis-à-vis UPS.

This ^ is not the eventual commercial home version as per the AMPAS regs -

5. Screeners ( https://www.oscars.org/sites/oscars/...egulations.pdf

[LordoftheRings]

You can't have HDR without 4K, and 4K can vary quite considerably, right.
I too am looking forward to 'Blade Runner 2049' and 'Dunkirk' both coming soon to home screen living room.

▪ http://archimago.blogspot.ca/2017/12...ost-truth.html

[Geoff D]

Er, you can have HDR without 4K. Resolution has no bearing on range.

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

You can't have HDR without 4K, and 4K can vary quite considerably, right.
I too am looking forward to 'Blade Runner 2049' and 'Dunkirk' both coming soon to home screen living room.

▪ http://archimago.blogspot.ca/2017/12...ost-truth.html

Netflix has a short movie called Cosmos Laundromat, it's a 1080pHDR movie.

[mrtickleuk]

Originally Posted by ray0414

Netflix has a short movie called Cosmos Laundromat, it's a 1080pHDR movie.

YouTube has that too, thanks to marty

Perhaps LordoftheRings really meant to say: "You can't buy a HDR Blu-Ray which isn't a 4K Blu-Ray".

[DanBa]

Latest Multi-HDR TV table:




Latest Yoeri Geutskens' diagram:
https://www.linkedin.com/

[PaulGo]

Qualcomm has a new 4K HDR feature, but which devices support it?
Making sense of a fragmented industry.

https://www.engadget.com/2017/12/08/...deo-explained/

[BrownianMotion]

YouTube finally added an HDR filter! You can now filter your searches for actual HDR content.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by DanBa

[Show spoiler]

Has Samsung now officially announced support of HLG for some of its TVs?.....or did the Venn diagram creator suddenly deviate from his own self-established inclusion criteria? If the later, seems to me that either mrtickleuk (https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...s#post14430771)
broke him down and/or he trusts the assertions of a BBC rep over that of his followers (fellow AV hobbyists) experiences who’ve claimed HLG support by some Samsung TVs for awhile now, no?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Well, the good thing is my wrist is healing up fine and I should be 100% for a group ride with some Disney folk come 2nd weekend in Dec.

Luckily the crosswinds weren’t too bad, anyway -

With regards to the yet unannounced (nevertheless, in the works at the Burbank offices) Disney Animation movie project I spoke about several months ago with an Asian character(s) written in….I gleaned today from puffing riders, it also seems to have a sci-fi slant/theme to it (although it’s tough to tell for sure as the Disney guys are resistant to discussing specifics of the plot)….anyway, the project is progressing along well despite a few months leave of absence by top creative management.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Er, you can have HDR without 4K. Resolution has no bearing on range.

I can, where? Is it hiding on some 1080p Blu-rays.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by ray0414

Netflix has a short movie called Cosmos Laundromat, it's a 1080pHDR movie.

I'll check it out, thx.