It 4K UHD (2017) - Page 43 - Blu-ray Forum

aetherhole · 01-11-2018, 04:28 PM

Guys, good news to those who are having issue with DV and raised blacks.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarc.../#7feb83952906

While John Archer was addressing this specifically for the Apple TV, the article also mentions 4K Blu-ray players, as well. Basically it's an issue with Dolby Vision signal being sent via HDMI, which is why the internal TV apps don't have the same problem.

So, it's not LG's or Oppo's fault after all; it's Dolby's fault and kudos to them for owning the responsibility.

Now the issue is getting the pertaining firmware update. If it is the issue on the TV's side, like the article is stating, we are at the mercy of the TV manufacturers, namely LG, to release this firmware update in a timely fashion. This may not bode very well for us 2016 LG owners, though.

BrownianMotion · 01-11-2018, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by aetherhole

If it is the issue on the TV's side, like the article is stating, we are at the mercy of the TV manufacturers, namely LG, to release this firmware update in a timely fashion. This may not bode very well for us 2016 LG owners, though.

I'm confident LG will release the necessary fix for our sets.

flyry · 01-11-2018, 04:34 PM

The special features were pretty weak. Especially for something that had as tumultuous as a production as this did. Though I'm not big on watching Deleted Scenes.

xfileed916 · 01-11-2018, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aetherhole

Guys, good news to those who are having issue with DV and raised blacks.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarc.../#7feb83952906

While John Archer was addressing this specifically for the Apple TV, the article also mentions 4K Blu-ray players, as well. Basically it's an issue with Dolby Vision signal being sent via HDMI, which is why the internal TV apps don't have the same problem.

So, it's not LG's or Oppo's fault after all; it's Dolby's fault and kudos to them for owning the responsibility.

Now the issue is getting the pertaining firmware update. If it is the issue on the TV's side, like the article is stating, we are at the mercy of the TV manufacturers, namely LG, to release this firmware update in a timely fashion. This may not bode very well for us 2016 LG owners, though.

That's fantastic news! Just curious why you think LG wouldn't push out an update for those of us that own their 2016 sets?

aetherhole · 01-11-2018, 05:51 PM

Updates, while they were relatively on-the-spot in 2016 and into 2017, I just worry that a product from two generations ago will not get as much attention to fix. I hope my worry is for nothing because I would like to enjoy both consistent black (bars) and the subtle improvements DV offers.

BrownianMotion · 01-11-2018, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by xfileed916

That's fantastic news! Just curious why you think LG wouldn't push out an update for those of us that own their 2016 sets?

Just people worrying for no reason. LG will definitely fix the Dolby Vision issues on our 2016 sets. I have no doubt about it.

cleeve · 01-11-2018, 06:23 PM

Watched this last night with my wife. A truly fantastic transfer. Definitely in my top tier of discs. Great use of HDR throughout. Beyond the obvious "bright light in dim room" scenarios that play really well with HDR, I just thought that the color saturation of the grass and trees in the outdoor shots were fantastic as well. 5/5 PQ in my opinion.

hgray322 · 01-11-2018, 06:38 PM

Anyone else try to redeem their movies anywhere after purchasing through walmart and saying you already own it?

I pre-ordered and got HDX instawatch but now it won't let me redeem for UHD version.

RyanMatthew · 01-11-2018, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BrownianMotion

I'm confident LG will release the necessary fix for our sets.

Keep dreaming.

BrownianMotion · 01-11-2018, 07:20 PM

Who knew there were so many LG doubters on this forum?!

aetherhole · 01-11-2018, 07:42 PM

LG doubters? As LG owners? I'm just being cautious, honestly. The last update that is listed on their website for my set specifically was 6 months ago.

Anyway, "IT" was just as fantastic the 3rd time around. Watching it again yesterday I really appreciate the kids performances further.

bradnoyes · 01-11-2018, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by aetherhole

Anyway, "IT" was just as fantastic the 3rd time around. Watching it again yesterday I really appreciate the kids performances further.

IT was a really pleasant surprise. I figured I'd like it well enough, but it really stuck with me and I already want to watch it again, too. The excellent PQ and sound certainly didn't hurt. I'm hoping my wife will want to watch it this weekend. Though we might just have to skip that opening scene...

jala12 · 01-11-2018, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bradnoyes

IT was a really pleasant surprise. I figured I'd like it well enough, but it really stuck with me and I already want to watch it again, too. The excellent PQ and sound certainly didn't hurt. I'm hoping my wife will want to watch it this weekend. Though we might just have to skip that opening scene...

That would be a problem since it sets the tone of the movie as well as the events going forward...

RalphoR · 01-11-2018, 09:42 PM

I don't doubt the tv manufacturers will get us a firmware update. What I do doubt is that it will be a quick response. I'm sure they'll incorporate it into their next firmware update but won't fast track it for one movie issue.

McCrutchy · 01-11-2018, 09:44 PM

I like the Japanese cover. You can get it here on Amazon.co.jp:

bradnoyes · 01-11-2018, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jala12

That would be a problem since it sets the tone of the movie as well as the events going forward...

I mean, I'm sure she'll be fine if I just tell her

[Show spoiler]

and we just move on with the rest of the film.

the_sextein · 01-11-2018, 09:57 PM

I appreciate good acting and it really shouldn't matter what age the actor is but I think because it's rare that young actors make a film that appeals to adults that the performances in this film really stand out to me. It's kind of like watching a young teen sing opera as good as adults who have trained for years. Just something special about it.

Owen Teaque was perfectly cast. He plays what I consider to be a "Stephen King character" His performance is good but it's something about his style and look that feels familiar to characters I have read about in other "king" books.

Jeremey Ray Tayler also deserves major credit. I can only imagine how uncomfortable it must have been to play that role. Having his shirt pulled over his head and being called "tits". His character displays a large variety of emotions and he has to strip down into his skivvies for the whole world to see. I am sure there are a few scenes in this film that makes him cringe but they were necessary in order for his character to come off as genuine and have the effect that the story needed.

Sophi Lillis also had a bunch of awkward scenes with the clown as well as her father and being the only girl. I can't imagine this being easy for anyone and it's surprising to see such young actors not just play the parts but play them well.

Jeigh Lieberher played the role of Billy perfectly. His stare is pretty intense, reminds me of Tim Robbins.

I would assume that all of them read the book so that they would understand the characters they were playing better. That must have made everything even more awkward.

This is the best film I have watched this year but I am hoping Blade Runner 2049 trumps it. I will be watching it for the first time next week. Can't wait.

bradnoyes · 01-11-2018, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by the_sextein

Owen Teaque was perfectly cast. He plays what I consider to be a "Stephen King character"

Thought the same thing.

s2mikey · 01-11-2018, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bradnoyes

Completely lightless environment isn't an option for me (one can always dream) but our living room is pretty dark when we watch at night. I have seen grey vertical bars in the opening moments of Valerian and I got flickering bars one time while streaming Watchmen on Vudu, so I'm a little familiar with what everyone has been experiencing. But I've watched a ton of DV content recently--on disc and streaming--and my blacks (horizontal bars included) have stayed solid. I have no idea why it's not happening to me.

I can't help but wonder if I maybe missed a firmware update that caused the DV issues, since for some reason my TV has typically not updated automatically (I had to update via USB to get the Game Mode update since no matter what I did it would NOT update via the internet).

With LG, only critical updates get done through the TV and internet. Non-essential updates do require a thumb drive or manual installation. Strange but thats how they do it. The game mode update was considered non-essential so that explains what happened to you.

I have the 65" E6 and while I havent watched a lot of DV content, I havent seen any issues with bars or black level problems. Im on the latest firmware for my set which is 5.30.02

Storm_1980 · 01-11-2018, 11:44 PM

When watching the Digital for some reason if I have the soundbar on the sound skips in and out but if I turn it off the sound plays fine through the TV Speakers. I put The Blu Ray Disc in to see if it was the same problem but the sound plays perfect with the soubdbar on. Does anyone know whatvthe issue with the Digital would be?

01-11-2018, 04:34 PM	#843
flyry Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jun 2013 4K collection:211 Blu-ray collection:535 MA collection:233 Digital collection:543 iTunes collection:173 Prime collection:11 Trading Score:75	The special features were pretty weak. Especially for something that had as tumultuous as a production as this did. Though I'm not big on watching Deleted Scenes. Last edited by flyry; 01-11-2018 at 05:13 PM.

01-11-2018, 09:57 PM	#857
the_sextein Active Member Member since:Aug 2009	I appreciate good acting and it really shouldn't matter what age the actor is but I think because it's rare that young actors make a film that appeals to adults that the performances in this film really stand out to me. It's kind of like watching a young teen sing opera as good as adults who have trained for years. Just something special about it. Owen Teaque was perfectly cast. He plays what I consider to be a "Stephen King character" His performance is good but it's something about his style and look that feels familiar to characters I have read about in other "king" books. Jeremey Ray Tayler also deserves major credit. I can only imagine how uncomfortable it must have been to play that role. Having his shirt pulled over his head and being called "tits". His character displays a large variety of emotions and he has to strip down into his skivvies for the whole world to see. I am sure there are a few scenes in this film that makes him cringe but they were necessary in order for his character to come off as genuine and have the effect that the story needed. Sophi Lillis also had a bunch of awkward scenes with the clown as well as her father and being the only girl. I can't imagine this being easy for anyone and it's surprising to see such young actors not just play the parts but play them well. Jeigh Lieberher played the role of Billy perfectly. His stare is pretty intense, reminds me of Tim Robbins. I would assume that all of them read the book so that they would understand the characters they were playing better. That must have made everything even more awkward. This is the best film I have watched this year but I am hoping Blade Runner 2049 trumps it. I will be watching it for the first time next week. Can't wait. Last edited by the_sextein; 01-11-2018 at 10:02 PM.

01-11-2018, 04:28 PM	#841
aetherhole Special Member Member since:Nov 2015 Location:Tustin, CA 4K collection:492 Blu-ray collection:991 MA collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:1	Guys, good news to those who are having issue with DV and raised blacks. https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarc.../#7feb83952906 While John Archer was addressing this specifically for the Apple TV, the article also mentions 4K Blu-ray players, as well. Basically it's an issue with Dolby Vision signal being sent via HDMI, which is why the internal TV apps don't have the same problem. So, it's not LG's or Oppo's fault after all; it's Dolby's fault and kudos to them for owning the responsibility. Now the issue is getting the pertaining firmware update. If it is the issue on the TV's side, like the article is stating, we are at the mercy of the TV manufacturers, namely LG, to release this firmware update in a timely fashion. This may not bode very well for us 2016 LG owners, though.

01-11-2018, 05:51 PM	#845
aetherhole Special Member Member since:Nov 2015 Location:Tustin, CA 4K collection:492 Blu-ray collection:991 MA collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:1	Updates, while they were relatively on-the-spot in 2016 and into 2017, I just worry that a product from two generations ago will not get as much attention to fix. I hope my worry is for nothing because I would like to enjoy both consistent black (bars) and the subtle improvements DV offers.

01-11-2018, 06:23 PM	#847
cleeve Senior Member Member since:Feb 2010 Location:United States 4K collection:40 Blu-ray collection:40 Trading Score:96	Watched this last night with my wife. A truly fantastic transfer. Definitely in my top tier of discs. Great use of HDR throughout. Beyond the obvious "bright light in dim room" scenarios that play really well with HDR, I just thought that the color saturation of the grass and trees in the outdoor shots were fantastic as well. 5/5 PQ in my opinion.

01-11-2018, 06:38 PM	#848
hgray322 Member Member since:Aug 2013 Location:Costa Mesa, CA 4K collection:4 Blu-ray collection:170 Digital collection:3	Anyone else try to redeem their movies anywhere after purchasing through walmart and saying you already own it? I pre-ordered and got HDX instawatch but now it won't let me redeem for UHD version.

01-11-2018, 07:20 PM	#850
BrownianMotion Power Member Member since:Nov 2013	Who knew there were so many LG doubters on this forum?!

01-11-2018, 07:42 PM	#851
aetherhole Special Member Member since:Nov 2015 Location:Tustin, CA 4K collection:492 Blu-ray collection:991 MA collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:1	LG doubters? As LG owners? I'm just being cautious, honestly. The last update that is listed on their website for my set specifically was 6 months ago. Anyway, "IT" was just as fantastic the 3rd time around. Watching it again yesterday I really appreciate the kids performances further.

01-11-2018, 09:42 PM	#854
RalphoR Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Oct 2013 Location:The Forbidden Valley of NE Ohio Trading Score:13	I don't doubt the tv manufacturers will get us a firmware update. What I do doubt is that it will be a quick response. I'm sure they'll incorporate it into their next firmware update but won't fast track it for one movie issue.

01-11-2018, 09:44 PM	#855
McCrutchy Contributor Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:East Coast, USA Home Theater Gallery:2 4K collection:1264 Blu-ray collection:6774 DVD collection:253 Blu-ray reviews: 5 Trading Score:17	I like the Japanese cover. You can get it here on Amazon.co.jp:

01-11-2018, 11:44 PM	#860
Storm_1980 Senior Member Member since:Sep 2014 Blu-ray collection:48 DVD collection:6	When watching the Digital for some reason if I have the soundbar on the sound skips in and out but if I turn it off the sound plays fine through the TV Speakers. I put The Blu Ray Disc in to see if it was the same problem but the sound plays perfect with the soubdbar on. Does anyone know whatvthe issue with the Digital would be?

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