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Old 01-08-2018, 11:56 PM   #1
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I have the ks800, decent tv, but do lots of streaming through vudu

as of 2 weeks, all my 4k titles are unwatchable as they are pixelated. I have 100 mbps internet speed, and can not believe this. Blade Runner, Wonder Woman, Dunkirk and much more.
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I have the ks800, decent tv, but do lots of streaming through vudu

as of 2 weeks, all my 4k titles are unwatchable as they are pixelated. I have 100 mbps internet speed, and can not believe this. Blade Runner, Wonder Woman, Dunkirk and much more.
I have not been impressed with streaming 4k content so far. I think the compression is so high that to even call it 4K is deceiving.
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I have the ks800, decent tv, but do lots of streaming through vudu

as of 2 weeks, all my 4k titles are unwatchable as they are pixelated. I have 100 mbps internet speed, and can not believe this. Blade Runner, Wonder Woman, Dunkirk and much more.
I had the same problem but I was using a cheap TV to test my device (my friend's TV). 4K looked just awful, but in that case, the fault lay in settings (that I could not change, because it was a cheap TV).

So it's possible there is something you need to change in the settings. What I DID have to change with my friend's TV is input settings, or the TV was downconverting the signal. Once I set it correctly, the picture looked at least a bit better.
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My Vizio P series streams 4k great since I upgraded my internet. My LG C6 still has some issues with sound dropping out on Vudu.
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Old 01-09-2018, 04:53 PM   #6
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I have the ks800, decent tv, but do lots of streaming through vudu

as of 2 weeks, all my 4k titles are unwatchable as they are pixelated. I have 100 mbps internet speed, and can not believe this. Blade Runner, Wonder Woman, Dunkirk and much more.
Are you using WiFi or an Ethernet cable? I have the same TV and I couldn't even get 4K movies to play without it reverting to a lower setting, but when plugged into my router I never have any issues and the picture is almost disc quality.
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The problem is speed. Using wired internet with my x-box the picture looks almost as good as the actual disc.
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Old 01-10-2018, 10:47 PM   #8
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Are you using WiFi or an Ethernet cable? I have the same TV and I couldn't even get 4K movies to play without it reverting to a lower setting, but when plugged into my router I never have any issues and the picture is almost disc quality.
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The problem is speed. Using wired internet with my x-box the picture looks almost as good as the actual disc.
Yes you must be using Wireless, Ethernet is the only way to go. I have a 65" UHD Sony Hard Wired straight to my Fiber Feed Switch, and I Stream 4K Movies from Amazon and Sony Ultra with Amazing Disc like Picture and Sound Quality!
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There are plenty of people successfully using WiFi for 4K streaming. OP might have bad WiFi and he might not. Automatically assuming that's the issue is jumping the gun.
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There are plenty of people successfully using WiFi for 4K streaming. OP might have bad WiFi and he might not. Automatically assuming that's the issue is jumping the gun.
Jumping the gun or not, Wireless will never beat Wired especially with 4K+ Streaming. For Mobile Devices Wireless is just fine, but to Stream to your UHD TV you can't beat Wired. Streaming to your Home Entertainment System is going to be common, and to take advantage of all the Bandwidth Wired will be the only way to do this. The issue is not Wireless or Wired, but which is better to utilize all the Bandwidth. The Experts say Wired!
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Jumping the gun or not, Wireless will never beat Wired especially with 4K+ Streaming. For Mobile Devices Wireless is just fine, but to Stream to your UHD TV you can't beat Wired. Streaming to your Home Entertainment System is going to be common, and to take advantage of all the Bandwidth Wired will be the only way to do this. The issue is not Wireless or Wired, but which is better to utilize all the Bandwidth. The Experts say Wired!
I'm 2 floors away from my wireless access point and my iPad is currently getting 183Mb/s down with 2ms jitter and no loss. Proper WiFi vastly exceeds what current UHD streaming can utilize.
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There are plenty of people successfully using WiFi for 4K streaming. OP might have bad WiFi and he might not. Automatically assuming that's the issue is jumping the gun.
He just uses any excuse that he can to create a tangent where he can at least mention fiber wiring. He'd probably marry it if he could legally do so.
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I'm 2 floors away from my wireless access point and my iPad is currently getting 183Mb/s down with 2ms jitter and no loss. Proper WiFi vastly exceeds what current UHD streaming can utilize.
Oh goody, your entire Family can gather around your iPad with the greatest WiFi Picture!
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There are plenty of people successfully using WiFi for 4K streaming. OP might have bad WiFi and he might not. Automatically assuming that's the issue is jumping the gun.
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He just uses any excuse that he can to create a tangent where he can at least mention fiber wiring. He'd probably marry it if he could legally do so.
I keep saying Copper is Obsolete as an Infrastructure, Fiber is The Future. If your Community or City doesn't have it, it's time to move to a location that does. Otherwise stay in The Dark Ages, and settle for Copper or Wireless!
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OP is using the VUDU app on his KS8000. I had someone on the KS8000/8500 owners thread on the AVS forum make the same complaint, but I haven't been able to replicate their issues when streaming. That owner said that is apparently a ongoing issue with the app. Which tells me it is a app issue, not a tv issue. Mine is set up wireless. I have my family on the 2.4 ghz and I'm on the 5 ghz on my tv and One without an issue. I also have double his internet speed though. So I have no idea why his is being buggy without having a bit more information though
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I watched John Wick 2 on VUDU and didn't have any issues In fact, for once I can agree with alchav21 and say it looked fantastic. I'll most likely pick up the 3 movies on 4K once they wrap it up.
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I keep saying Copper is Obsolete as an Infrastructure, Fiber is The Future. If your Community or City doesn't have it, it's time to move to a location that does. Otherwise stay in The Dark Ages, and settle for Copper or Wireless!
The problem is you keep saying this sort of thing obsessively. It is coming across more as some kind of OCD "tick" at this point more than anything. No one is disputing what type of wiring is superior. But until it is distributed everywhere, the basic fact of that type of wiring being superior is moot for many.

The idea that people should move based on the type of wiring in there area is beyond asinine. If someone has reason to move anyway, and they take that into consideration as part of the move, that is one thing. For it to be the sole reason for moving is extraordinarily stupid in the vast majority of circumstances, short of someone working out of their home and needing that level of speed, and no less, to do their work.
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The problem is you keep saying this sort of thing obsessively. It is coming across more as some kind of OCD "tick" at this point more than anything. No one is disputing what type of wiring is superior. But until it is distributed everywhere, the basic fact of that type of wiring being superior is moot for many.

The idea that people should move based on the type of wiring in there area is beyond asinine. If someone has reason to move anyway, and they take that into consideration as part of the move, that is one thing. For it to be the sole reason for moving is extraordinarily stupid in the vast majority of circumstances, short of someone working out of their home and needing that level of speed, and no less, to do their work.
Sorry for sounding like a broken record, but I was just trying to make a point. If we all agree now that Streaming HD is the road we are all headed, then you have to look at Fiber is the way to go. People moving for faster Internet may not be the answer, but if a move is in the works Internet should be at the top of that list.

It might seem like Donster "Fantasy Island," but it's not that far fetched. I have moved several times, and one time I moved into a Community that only had Dial-Up and when I left it had Verizon FiOS. I Retired from The Industry, and the Copper Infrastructure was older than I am, and I'm almost as Old As Dirt. So when I say Fiber should be the Infrastructure, I think I know what I am talking about. I just see when I talk to people about this their eyes glaze over, so it just gets to me that most just don't understand.

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Sorry for sounding like a broken record, but I was just trying to make a point. If we all agree now that Streaming HD is the road we are all headed, then you have to look at Fiber is the way to go. People moving for faster Internet may not be the answer, but if a move is in the works Internet should be at the top of that list.

It might seem like Donster "Fantasy Island," but it's not that far fetched. I have moved several times, and one time I moved into a Community that only had Dial-Up and when I left it had Verizon FiOS. I Retired from The Industry, and the Copper Infrastructure was older than I am, and I'm almost as Old As Dirt. So when I say Fiber should be the Infrastructure, I think I know what I am talking about. I just see when I talk to people about this their eyes glaze over, so it just gets to me that most just don't understand.
And what point is that exactly?

Your work in the industry is rather moot with regard to this conversation. For one thing, it's not like someone has to have worked installing various types of wiring just to comprehend which is superior. And again, no one is saying that fiber isn't superior to copper. That's a huge part of your problem. You keep arguing in favor of it, as if people are arguing with you against it.

It's not a matter of people understanding it or not understanding it. It's a matter of it being something that is either out of their control (i.e. not necessarily available in their area), or is just a moot in regards to the point that they are making.

It's not like these tech companies are actively trying to get fiber out there all across the country as quickly as possible to as many areas as they can, and the people in those areas are actively rejecting it and stopping them from doing so.




It's hard to make a perfect analogy for this, but it's almost as if everyone else is debating whether TGI Fridays or Applebees is the better restaurant (kind of like the discussion in the digital vs physical thread), and you keep jumping in saying "Such-&-Such brand of food storage containers are the best of any brand for keeping your leftovers fresh for as long as possible!" And that brand of containers is only available in select regions, and mainly only in regular stores, and not sold online.

Then when you keep bring that up, you get replies such as:

- "I almost always eat my entire meal at the restaurant and rarely even have leftovers. And when I do have leftovers, I typically eat them later the same day and don't need to store them for an extended period of time." (kind of like people who feel that Blu-Ray and 4K Blu-Ray offer superior, more consistent experiences, and more importantly can be used where ever they live regardless of internet speeds, and gives them more control over their content).

- "Those containers aren't available in my area, and I have no easy way of obtaining them" (i.e. someone living in an area that doesn't have the best infrastructure and speeds, and can't realistically move because of it).

-Or, as more applicable to the subject of this thread, someone is focusing in on just one restaurant, talking about how the quality of their food even when served hot out of the kitchen is/has become substandard or disappointing (i.e. people with high internet speeds still getting sub-par streaming which likely has more to do with the streaming service in question and/or the quality of the file being streamed... meaning that even if they had fiber, it likely wouldn't make a difference since the delivery method isn't the issue).

In these three examples, the food storage container brand that you would be going on about would be completely moot. In the first example, no food storage container is even needed. In the second example, the person just doesn't have reasonable access to those containers, even if they have leftovers to store. And the third example is of the the person feeling that the food is of poor quality up front right when it's cooked, and in that case it's not even a matter of keeping leftovers fresh... it's of the quality of the food before "leftovers" are even a factor (it's not like storing poor-quality food in one of these containers for a while will magically make the quality improve). And in all three of these examples, NO ONE is denying the quality of the food storage containers that you are talking about... they just have pretty much little to no relevance to the points that these people are making.

But rather than acknowledging that, you act like these are all somehow counterpoints to and attacks against the quality of these storage containers, and you just keeping on replying, saying things like, "Such-&-Such food storage containers ARE the best!! They beat any and all competitor options! They are the undeniable future of all food storage!! Why does everyone keep denying this and not understand?! I worked in the food-store-container industry for YEARS and know what I'm talking about! If these aren't available in your area, then you should make moving to a region where these are available a top priority!"

And then you wonder why you get the reactions that you do.
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