how do i get tru HD and dts hd on my onkyo sr705/ps3??

[TheShinigami]

Hi guys i have an onkyo sr705 receiver and a PS3 as my bluray player. I had them for a while but i have never been able to get truHD or DTS HD on in. what im trying to say is that when i watch a movie i dont see the truHD letters on the receiver screen. what are the setting that i have to set my ps3 and my onkyo receiver to listen to my movies in truHD??? Im using 1.3 HDMI cables. please help me !!!

[ShelbyGT500]

As long as you have the PS3 set to linear PCM it will decode the True HD and DTS-MA then send them PCM to the 705. Your receiver will not show TrueHD or DTS-MA due to the PS3 decoding them.

All you have to do is make sure you have selected the True HD or DTS-MA track on the BD options when you start the movie. You can check what audio you are on by hitting select or display on your controller or remote.

[Zman2k2]

You can't. The PS3 does not bitstream to a receiver. It decodes and sends the audio out via LPCM. As long as you have the PS3 as your player, the only time you will see TrueHD or DTS HD-MA is when you select audio on the PS3 and have it show up in the top right corner of the screen.

[BrendonR]

I've been wondering this aswell...

Just picked up a yamaha 6160 for christmas and have the same issue. I've figured out the Linear PCM solution... however....

Why does the PS3 give you the option to bitstream audio if it can't bitstream TrueHD/DTS MA? I assume so that it will bistream any base DTS tracks (SD DVD?)

BrendonR

[Eddie2u]

Originally Posted by BrendonR

I've been wondering this aswell...

Just picked up a yamaha 6160 for christmas and have the same issue. I've figured out the Linear PCM solution... however....

Why does the PS3 give you the option to bitstream audio if it can't bitstream TrueHD/DTS MA? I assume so that it will bistream any base DTS tracks (SD DVD?)

BrendonR

You should set your PS3 to output Bitstream if you are using an optical digital connection from the PS3 to your Audio/Video Receiver.
The PS3 will not bitstream advanced audio formats to your AVR through optical digital connection. It can only bitstream basic Dolby Digital and DTS surround audio formats.

[Driver_King]

Please tell me that you have been at least getting lossless since you've had both. You have everything selected in the HDMI audio menu on your PS3, are in some sort of normal or THX mode, have HDMI Monitor out on, are selecting the lossless track on your BD's, and have your PS3 set to Linear PCM? If not...

[ryoohki]

Originally Posted by BrendonR

I've been wondering this aswell...

Just picked up a yamaha 6160 for christmas and have the same issue. I've figured out the Linear PCM solution... however....

Why does the PS3 give you the option to bitstream audio if it can't bitstream TrueHD/DTS MA? I assume so that it will bistream any base DTS tracks (SD DVD?)

BrendonR

The HDMI 1.3 chip that is the in PS3 is a HDMI 1.3 'Lite' chip witch do most stuff that 1.3 does, but lack the ability to transmit Bitstream for High Bandwitdh Audio like TrueHD and DTSHD. It's a hardware thing...

[TheShinigami]

Originally Posted by ShelbyGT500

As long as you have the PS3 set to linear PCM it will decode the True HD and DTS-MA then send them PCM to the 705. Your receiver will not show TrueHD or DTS-MA due to the PS3 decoding them.

All you have to do is make sure you have selected the True HD or DTS-MA track on the BD options when you start the movie. You can check what audio you are on by hitting select or display on your controller or remote.

thanks shelby

[TheShinigami]

Originally Posted by Driver_King

Please tell me that you have been at least getting lossless since you've had both. You have everything selected in the HDMI audio menu on your PS3, are in some sort of normal or THX mode, have HDMI Monitor out on, are selecting the lossless track on your BD's, and have your PS3 set to Linear PCM? If not...

hey king ok so let me see if i got this right.
1- check everything on the ps3 audio menu
2-when i watch the movies i put it on normal or thx mode
3- HDMI monitor out turned on on my receiver
4-select the HD track on the Bluray
and
5-have my ps3 set to linear pcm ?? (you mean on my receiver i have to select linear pcm for ps3 ??

[Joe Cain]

Originally Posted by TheShinigami

hey king ok so let me see if i got this right.
1- check everything on the ps3 audio menu
2-when i watch the movies i put it on normal or thx mode
3- HDMI monitor out turned on on my receiver
4-select the HD track on the Bluray
and
5-have my ps3 set to linear pcm ?? (you mean on my receiver i have to select linear pcm for ps3 ??

No. On the PS3's XMB, go to Settings>Video Settings>BD/DVD Audio Output Format (HDMI) and select "PCM." (Online manual here.)

[My_Two_Cents]

Originally Posted by TheShinigami

hey king ok so let me see if i got this right.
1- check everything on the ps3 audio menu
2-when i watch the movies i put it on normal or thx mode
3- HDMI monitor out turned on on my receiver
4-select the HD track on the Bluray
and
5-have my ps3 set to linear pcm ?? (you mean on my receiver i have to select linear pcm for ps3 ??

You didn't mention this, but you must also make sure the 705 HDMI audio out is set to NO or OFF (can't remember which right now). If you are passing HDMI sound to your set, then you will never be able to listen to HD audio as it will all downres to 2-channel (whatever your set supports).

[Yog-Sothoth]

[TheShinigami] Also, If you have 6.1 or 7.1, set your Listening Presets to Dolby PLIIx:

If you have 6.1, set it to PLIIx Movie for 2.0 sources and PLIIx Music for multichannel sources, including multichannel PCM (this is what your receiver receives from the PS3).

If you have 7.1, use PLIIx Movie for 2.0 and multichannel sources.

When using Listening Presets, the receiver will use always PLIIx (or whatever you chose) to matrix sound to 6.1 or 7.1, even after the unit has been powered down. If your listening material is already 6.1 or 7.1, PLIIx will not be used.

There are other options that you can use for the back surround(s), but most people prefer PLIIx. I use PLIIx for everything (except perhaps for music), and add THX Cinema when watching movies.

[solarrdadd]

sorry but the bottom line for you, if you want to see your receiver light up to say: "Dolby True HD or DTS HD MA", then you are going to have to buy a standalone blu-ray player that bitstreams HD audio; remember, bitstreams HD audio this is an important feature. there is no other way and don't let anyone tell you that there is, well, unless you buy an HD-DVD player and get some movies that were recorded in either of those HD audio but I don't think you want that! Go Blu!

[BrendonR]

Originally Posted by Eddie2u

You should set your PS3 to output Bitstream if you are using an optical digital connection from the PS3 to your Audio/Video Receiver.
The PS3 will not bitstream advanced audio formats to your AVR through optical digital connection. It can only bitstream basic Dolby Digital and DTS surround audio formats.

SOOOO....


right now i've got an HDMI from PS3 to yamaha 6160/HDMI from 6160 to LCD. Output settings are set to Linear PCM on the PS3 through HDMI.

IF!

I add a digital optical cable (which i have already) to the ps3-6160 and change the audio input (receiver) and output (ps3) to the optical cable (& bitstream)..... I can make that little "trueHD" or "DTS MA" symbol light up on my 6160?

Thanks
BrendonR

[My_Two_Cents]

Originally Posted by BrendonR

SOOOO....


right now i've got an HDMI from PS3 to yamaha 6160/HDMI from 6160 to LCD. Output settings are set to Linear PCM on the PS3 through HDMI.

IF!

I add a digital optical cable (which i have already) to the ps3-6160 and change the audio input (receiver) and output (ps3) to the optical cable (& bitstream)..... I can make that little "trueHD" or "DTS MA" symbol light up on my 6160?

Thanks
BrendonR

No. The PS3 cannot bitstream HD audio codecs, and never will (unless redesigned). You will only get HD audio by setting the PS3 to LPCM and sending audio over HDMI. DO NOT connect an optical cable, as you will only get lossy DD and DTS if you bitstream. The only way you'll see the lights on your receiver is if you purchase a stand-alone player capable of bitstreaming HD audio. But why bother? You're getting it now with your current setup.

[BrendonR]

Originally Posted by Ricshoe

No. The PS3 cannot bitstream HD audio codecs, and never will (unless redesigned). You will only get HD audio by setting the PS3 to LPCM and sending audio over HDMI. DO NOT connect an optical cable, as you will only get lossy DD and DTS if you bitstream. The only way you'll see the lights on your receiver is if you purchase a stand-alone player capable of bitstreaming HD audio. But why bother? You're getting it now with your current setup.

That's what I figured - the first sentance from my other quote there confused me (should set to bitstream if you're using digital....).

I'm certainly not bothered enough to buy a standalone player that's for sure. I'll just have to be satisfied that the display button puts up the "DTS MA" logo on the top fo the screen.

Jeeze - I watched 80% of the Dark knight the other day in DD5.1 before I realized that the blu-ray didn't default to TrueHD... wasn't paying close enough attention i guess - note to self, "hit 'display' when a movie first starts EVERY time"

[TheShinigami]

thanks guys for your replies. i do have another bluray play but that one i have it upstairs in my room and i dont have a set up for my room just my 40" bravia and my sony bx1. i was thinking of getting a 2.1 system for my room what do you guys think???
klipsch c500??
klipsch c700??
denon s302??
bose 321 ???
or is it a waste of money to get one of them ???

[My_Two_Cents]

Originally Posted by BrendonR

I'm certainly not bothered enough to buy a standalone player that's for sure. I'll just have to be satisfied that the display button puts up the "DTS MA" logo on the top fo the screen.

LOL. I was at Costco today and almost bought the Pany BD35 for $229 just so I could get my 705 to display HD audio. Luckily, I came to my senses and got out of there before I changed my mind again. I need to stay out of that store.

Originally Posted by BrendonR

Jeeze - I watched 80% of the Dark knight the other day in DD5.1 before I realized that the blu-ray didn't default to TrueHD... wasn't paying close enough attention i guess - note to self, "hit 'display' when a movie first starts EVERY time"

You'll get used to it. I think this has happened to many of us PS3 owners more than once.

[PanasonicPlasmaMan]

Originally Posted by Ricshoe

LOL. I was at Costco today and almost bought the Pany BD35 for $229 just so I could get my 705 to display HD audio. Luckily, I came to my senses and got out of there before I changed my mind again. I need to stay out of that store.


You'll get used to it. I think this has happened to many of us PS3 owners more than once.

lol. im still not use to it

[TheShinigami]

lol i work for costco. i got my bx1 there for $189 on black friday . we dont get discounts , sucks huh ,,,,,