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Old 01-03-2009, 10:16 AM   #1
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Already been done.
Didn't you guys see Final Fantasy: The spirits within ? Or the totally nonsensical Advent Children ? Or more recently Beowulf ?

Incorrect as those above-mentioned titles did not feature truly photo-realistic CG-renderings of people. That hasn't come... yet.
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Old 01-03-2009, 10:24 AM   #2
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Incorrect as those above-mentioned titles did not feature truly photo-realistic CG-renderings of people. That hasn't come... yet.
Dude we probably did not see the same version but (and unless my memory plays tricks on me), Angelina Jolie in Beowulf looked pretty damn much like Angelina Jolie though it was not really her. Same with Anthony Hopkins.
Now you could argue that this technology can go further but the fact remains that these Beowulf characters are photo-realistic, with colors closer to animation that realism granted but that was done on purpose.
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Old 01-03-2009, 10:48 AM   #3
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Dude we probably did not see the same version but (and unless my memory plays tricks on me), Angelina Jolie in Beowulf looked pretty damn much like Angelina Jolie though it was not really her. Same with Anthony Hopkins.
Now you could argue that this technology can go further but the fact remains that these Beowulf characters are photo-realistic, with colors closer to animation that realism granted but that was done on purpose.

What I meant was although certainly leaps and bounds in terms of quality over far previous attempts at such CG-characterizations of real human beings, you can still very clearly tell in something like "Beowulf" that the characters you are seeing on screen are NOT REAL but created.


What I am talking about is seeing a film and literally not being able to tell the difference between a CG-rendered person and a real, physical actor... that has not yet been done or could be done. It is, however, coming closer and closer to realization than most realize.
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Beowulf was technically impressive, about the best I've seen for human character CGI. Yes it will only get better, but human emotion and mannerisms are difficult to capture. I don't know if we'll see a film which is impossible to distinguish between human and human CGI because of this.

Inhuman (Golem) from LOTR was more impressive IMO because as a creature, he appeared real and was so well fleshed out as a character of the films, he could have been nominated for an oscar. Serious.
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Dude we probably did not see the same version but (and unless my memory plays tricks on me), Angelina Jolie in Beowulf looked pretty damn much like Angelina Jolie though it was not really her. Same with Anthony Hopkins.
Now you could argue that this technology can go further but the fact remains that these Beowulf characters are photo-realistic, with colors closer to animation that realism granted but that was done on purpose.
Wasn't Angelina rotoscoped; i.e. she was filmed and then the CGI guys make her look different? I think the original article was talking about creating a digital actor from scratch that looks just like the real person.
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Dude we probably did not see the same version but (and unless my memory plays tricks on me), Angelina Jolie in Beowulf looked pretty damn much like Angelina Jolie though it was not really her. Same with Anthony Hopkins.
Now you could argue that this technology can go further but the fact remains that these Beowulf characters are photo-realistic, with colors closer to animation that realism granted but that was done on purpose.
They said photo realistic. None of those movie looked anywhere near photo realistic... You could clearly see that they were CG.
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Al Pacino already did that and her name is Simone
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Al Pacino already did that and her name is Simone
I think there was a 1 in her name somewhere.
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Al Pacino already did that and her name is Simone
In fact, the movie was originally intended to be "The first movie boldly using a digital star"--
Until both the budget and Final Flop made them chicken out, they used flesh-and-blood Rachel Roberts instead, and pretended it was a "quirky fairytale allegory".

(Similarly, the live-action "Thunderbirds" movie was supposed to be the first American-made "Final Fantasy"-type action CGI, until guess the reason THEY also ultimately chickened out and used live actors...)
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I thought this going to be a thread on Keanu Reeves acting skills.
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(And because "Final Fantasy:TSW" gets mentioned so often every single time this thread comes back up, a musical moment from the movie for your enjoyment:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0I_XdjE-MU )
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I thought this going to be a thread on Keanu Reeves acting skills.
HEY now he kicked butt in the matrix films. NO lets not start in about the matrix deal, I started a thread about that a month or so ago.
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