Chances that barebones releases will eventually be re-released with all extras? - Blu-ray Forum

IndyMLVC · 10-20-2016, 01:14 PM

One of the biggest annoyances about 4k is that I have to hold on to the older BD disc for all the extras. What are the chances that these early discs will eventual be re-released with all their bonus features on the same disc?

Rich1631 · 10-20-2016, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

One of the biggest annoyances about 4k is that I have to hold on to the older BD disc for all the extras. What are the chances that these early discs will eventual be re-released with all their bonus features on the same disc?

Next to zero. A ton of the barebones early BD releases (AVP, Man on Fire, XXX, Mr. and Mrs. Smith, King Kong, Pearl Harbor, Day After Tomorrow etc.) never got re-released with the extras from their DVD counterparts. The days of double dip special editions are over. I have basically been taking the extra discs and putting them in a paper sleeve and then placing them in the 4K box.

bailey1987 · 10-20-2016, 03:52 PM

How annoying, they should just port everything over with the ideal situation being to create a 4K copy of the special feature. I will have to keep hold of my Da Vinci Code blu because the ultra hasn't got the extended cut apparently.

Rich1631 · 10-20-2016, 04:44 PM

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How annoying, they should just port everything over with the ideal situation being to create a 4K copy of the special feature. I will have to keep hold of my Da Vinci Code blu because the ultra hasn't got the extended cut apparently.

There is no extended cut on the 4K, however the 4K package does include all of those scenes in a separate section on the bluray under the deleted/extended/alternate scenes. So you technically don't lose them as they ported them over.

IndyMLVC · 10-27-2016, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich1631

Next to zero. A ton of the barebones early BD releases (AVP, Man on Fire, XXX, Mr. and Mrs. Smith, King Kong, Pearl Harbor, Day After Tomorrow etc.) never got re-released with the extras from their DVD counterparts. The days of double dip special editions are over. I have basically been taking the extra discs and putting them in a paper sleeve and then placing them in the 4K box.

Maybe not in the U.S. but many are available overseas. And PH does have all the extras from the first disc.
It just sucks that these 4k discs are, essentially, superbit discs

Rich1631 · 10-27-2016, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

Maybe not in the U.S. but many are available overseas. And OH does have all the extras from the first disc.
It just sucks that these 4k discs are, essentially, superbit discs

What is OH?

willbfree · 10-27-2016, 04:34 PM

100%. All these initial runs with no extras are going to be thought of as weird.

Buckster666 · 10-27-2016, 06:35 PM

Defo, Hollywood love to sell you the same product over and over again.

IndyMLVC · 10-28-2016, 12:21 AM

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What is OH?

Sorry. Meant PH (aka Pearl Harbor).

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100%. All these initial runs with no extras are going to be thought of as weird.

I wouldn't be so sure about that.
TBH, the lack of extras and the need to save 100% of my older Blu's makes me really uninterested in jumping in. It's one thing if "some" titles on 4k didn't have all the extras, as was the case when Blu-ray and even DVD started out. In this case, NONE of them do.

Rich1631 · 10-28-2016, 12:38 AM

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Sorry. Meant PH (aka Pearl Harbor).

Yea but it doesn't have the director's cut nor any of the special features from the 4-Disc Vista Series DVD.

IndyMLVC · 10-28-2016, 12:52 AM

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Yea but it doesn't have the director's cut nor any of the special features from the 4-Disc Vista Series DVD.

Right but that's a separate release and a cut of the film. Doesn't apply here.

Rich1631 · 10-28-2016, 12:59 AM

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Right but that's a separate release and a cut of the film. Doesn't apply here.

How doesn't that apply!? -_- They didn't port over any of the good stuff. That vista series disc was awesome! I'm a firm believer that if your releasing another edition of the movie, you should port everything over to the new disc. It is an "upgrade" after all. Why would I want to buy another edition if the stuff isn't being carried over from the previous release? I feel like I'm being asked to pay more money and I don't get everything. Hard to explain but that is my logic.

IndyMLVC · 10-28-2016, 01:35 AM

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How doesn't that apply!? -_- They didn't port over any of the good stuff. That vista series disc was awesome! I'm a firm believer that if your releasing another edition of the movie, you should port everything over to the new disc. It is an "upgrade" after all. Why would I want to buy another edition if the stuff isn't being carried over from the previous release? I feel like I'm being asked to pay more money and I don't get everything. Hard to explain but that is my logic.

It doesn't apply to my point.

The Director's Cut was never released on blu-ray disc. Therefore, the bonus features that went along with that release shouldn't be expected to be a part of the regular theatrical release as well. The bonus features that were initially included with the theatrical DVD release of the film ARE, however, included.

Your argument is different.

cinema sickness · 10-28-2016, 01:02 PM

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\It just sucks that these 4k discs are, essentially, superbit discs

Guess it's time for "4K Deluxe" releases.

IndyMLVC · 10-28-2016, 02:21 PM

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Guess it's time for "4K Deluxe" releases.

That might be believable...if the 4k barebones releases were selling well enough to warrant that possibility. And I seriously doubt they are.

IndyMLVC · 01-27-2018, 06:12 PM

I see the Lionsgate is the only studio that's bothering to do this. If they can, why can't others?

pottyaboutpotter1 · 01-27-2018, 07:24 PM

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That might be believable...if the 4k barebones releases were selling well enough to warrant that possibility. And I seriously doubt they are.

Aren't all the studios reporting sales of 4K UHD discs are much higher than expected?

fitprod · 01-28-2018, 01:09 AM

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Aren't all the studios reporting sales of 4K UHD discs are much higher than expected?

Yep... Well ahead of their 3D counterparts at any point.

fitprod

DMRI2006 · 01-28-2018, 05:28 AM

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Yep... Well ahead of their 3D counterparts at any point.

Given that 3D is dead, that doesn't say very much.

I'm cautiously optimistic about 4K UHD but I doubt it's ever going to provide much of a forum for catalog releases. Even now it's not like the floodgates are opening up or anything close to it.

IndyMLVC · 01-28-2018, 03:13 PM

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Given that 3D is dead, that doesn't say very much.

I'm cautiously optimistic about 4K UHD but I doubt it's ever going to provide much of a forum for catalog releases. Even now it's not like the floodgates are opening up or anything close to it.

Considering I'm still waiting for some movies to hit Blu-ray, never mind 4k, those gates may never be opened. Regardless, there's absolutely NO reason for studios to not include the bonus features on the main disc unless they're so substantial that it would push them over to another disc size.

10-20-2016, 01:14 PM	#1
IndyMLVC Blu-ray Duke Top contributor Member since:Oct 2010 Location:New York City, NY 4K collection:296 Blu-ray collection:738 DVD collection:58 Digital collection:754 iTunes collection:2 Trading Score:62	Chances that barebones releases will eventually be re-released with all extras? One of the biggest annoyances about 4k is that I have to hold on to the older BD disc for all the extras. What are the chances that these early discs will eventual be re-released with all their bonus features on the same disc?

10-20-2016, 03:52 PM	#3
bailey1987 Special Member Member since:Sep 2009 4K collection:6 Blu-ray collection:204	How annoying, they should just port everything over with the ideal situation being to create a 4K copy of the special feature. I will have to keep hold of my Da Vinci Code blu because the ultra hasn't got the extended cut apparently.

10-27-2016, 04:34 PM	#7
willbfree Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jul 2008 4K collection:3 Blu-ray collection:468 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:4	100%. All these initial runs with no extras are going to be thought of as weird.

10-27-2016, 06:35 PM	#8
Buckster666 Senior Member Member since:Dec 2009 Blu-ray collection:107 Trading Score:14	Defo, Hollywood love to sell you the same product over and over again.

01-27-2018, 06:12 PM	#16
IndyMLVC Blu-ray Duke Top contributor Member since:Oct 2010 Location:New York City, NY 4K collection:296 Blu-ray collection:738 DVD collection:58 Digital collection:754 iTunes collection:2 Trading Score:62	I see the Lionsgate is the only studio that's bothering to do this. If they can, why can't others?

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