Detroit (2017) 4K UHD - Blu-ray Forum

McCrutchy · 02-07-2018, 03:12 AM

Coming from Concorde Video in Germany on 5 April 2018:

http://www.amazon.de/dp/B079JPHK84

Pieter V · 02-07-2018, 10:55 AM

Charlie_C · 02-07-2018, 12:18 PM

Geoff D · 02-07-2018, 01:26 PM

Hmmm. They shot this movie on Alexa Minis in 'Super 16' mode (1600x900 sensor crop upscaled to 1080p in-camera) with lenses designed for 16mm cameras and added grain in post to dirty it up. 2K finish.

If the German UHD doesn't have HDR - and I don't think it will - then this will be an interesting test of what an upscale can do for a straight 2K SDR 709 source.

McCrutchy · 02-07-2018, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

Hmmm. They shot this movie on Alexa Minis in 'Super 16' mode (1600x900 sensor crop upscaled to 1080p in-camera) with lenses designed for 16mm cameras and added grain in post to dirty it up. 2K finish.

If the German UHD doesn't have HDR - and I don't think it will - then this will be an interesting test of what an upscale can do for a straight 2K SDR 709 source.

Supposedly, it will have HDR.

Geoff D · 02-07-2018, 07:01 PM

A local release mit HDR? That's a first.

McCrutchy · 02-07-2018, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

A local release mit HDR? That's a first.

Bluray-disc.de is claiming as such, and as a 2017 film, Detroit has doubtless had an HDR pass done. Normally, I would be suspicious, but Concorde are also claiming their release of the 2017 Russian film Salyut-7 will have HDR, and they have released numerous discs which have been released with HDR in the USA, so I assume they are familiar with it by now. I expect the likes of Howards End will be SDR, but for new films, I have to assume that HDR is not only possible, but likely.

Also, this is technically far from the first local release with HDR, as almost all of the recent local Japanese UHD BDs claim to have HDR, too. So really, I don't think it's that surprising, coming as this is from Germany.

EDIT: I think the Iron Man trilogy also all have HDR, so perhaps all Concorde discs will, and perhaps they are doing them in-house. Perhaps someone fluent in German could ask them?

Zoland2020 · 02-08-2018, 11:30 AM

Interesting that this movie is getting 4K in Germany but not here in the States. If I hear the 4K release of Detroit is good, I'll get it from there instead of buying the regular Blu-ray here in the States.

McCrutchy · 02-08-2018, 10:48 PM

The official link for the release is here:

http://www.concorde-movie-lounge.de/...d133ac610c7a2c

It looks like the disc should have German and English DTS-HD MA 5.1 tracks, plus a German: Dolby Digital 2.0 track and optional German and German SDH subtitles. It should also contain the same exact extras as the Fox Blu-ray, plus the German trailer.

IndyMLVC · 02-09-2018, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by McCrutchy

The official link for the release is here:

http://www.concorde-movie-lounge.de/...d133ac610c7a2c

It looks like the disc should have German and English DTS-HD MA 5.1 tracks, plus a German: Dolby Digital 2.0 track and optional German and German SDH subtitles. It should also contain the same exact extras as the Fox Blu-ray, plus the German trailer.

But will the Blu-ray be region free, I wonder?

sukraj · 02-09-2018, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by McCrutchy

Supposedly, it will have HDR.

hope so bruv

d514 · 02-09-2018, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

But will the Blu-ray be region free, I wonder?

Concorde Blu-rays are usually Code B only.

Zoland2020 · 02-09-2018, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by d514

Concorde Blu-rays are usually Code B only.

So I will most likely need a region-free or Region B player to play discs like this, am I right?

IndyMLVC · 02-09-2018, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoland2020

So I will most likely need a region-free or Region B player to play discs like this, am I right?

UHD has no region code. But you'd need it for the extras.

Zoland2020 · 02-09-2018, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

UHD has no region code. But you'd need it for the extras.

Got it, thanks!

McCrutchy · 02-09-2018, 03:09 PM

Unless the extras are also presented on the UHD disc, and authored in the proper 1080p24 format. Then you arguably wouldn't need the 1080p Blu-ray disc at all.

IndyMLVC · 02-09-2018, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by McCrutchy

Unless the extras are also presented on the UHD disc, and authored in the proper 1080p24 format. Then you arguably wouldn't need the 1080p Blu-ray disc at all.

Lions Gate seems to be the only studio doing that, though. Is anyone else?

McCrutchy · 02-09-2018, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

Lions Gate seems to be the only studio doing that, though. Is anyone else?

So far, it seems to be more common on local European releases. From the looks of things, Concorde might be one of them, but someone who has played one or more of their discs needs to chime in.

andreasy969 · 02-10-2018, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoland2020

Interesting that this movie is getting 4K in Germany but not here in the States. If I hear the 4K release of Detroit is good, I'll get it from there instead of buying the regular Blu-ray here in the States.

Tbh I wouldn't get my hopes up with this release. I'm importing most of my movies for a reason and Concorde is one of the reasons I'm doing so. Seriously, their releases are among the worst in Germany imo. Concorde is standing on my "avoid if possible"-list due to stuff like localized masters and subpar encoding.

Concorde is the same company that released the "Iron Man Trilogy" on UHD, which, while not having seen it for myself, but going by people I trust with these things, is supposed to be UHD-crap.

With this being natively 1080p, like Geoff pointed out, I'm a happy camper with the US BD.

trevrox · 03-07-2018, 02:59 PM

Anyone import this? How is it? Bluray is cheap at $14 right now... worth importing the 4K?

02-07-2018, 03:12 AM	#1
McCrutchy Contributor Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:East Coast, USA Home Theater Gallery:2 4K collection:1265 Blu-ray collection:6775 DVD collection:253 Blu-ray reviews: 5 Trading Score:17	Detroit (2017) 4K UHD Coming from Concorde Video in Germany on 5 April 2018: http://www.amazon.de/dp/B079JPHK84 Last edited by McCrutchy; 02-07-2018 at 03:27 AM.

02-07-2018, 10:55 AM	#2
Pieter V Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Oct 2010 Location:The Netherlands Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:14

02-07-2018, 12:18 PM	#3
Charlie_C Special Member Member since:May 2017 Location:UK 4K collection:140 Blu-ray collection:376 Trading Score:10

02-07-2018, 01:26 PM	#4
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	Hmmm. They shot this movie on Alexa Minis in 'Super 16' mode (1600x900 sensor crop upscaled to 1080p in-camera) with lenses designed for 16mm cameras and added grain in post to dirty it up. 2K finish. If the German UHD doesn't have HDR - and I don't think it will - then this will be an interesting test of what an upscale can do for a straight 2K SDR 709 source.

02-07-2018, 07:01 PM	#6
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	A local release mit HDR? That's a first.

02-08-2018, 11:30 AM	#8
Zoland2020 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Oct 2017 Location:Clarksville, TN 4K collection:43 Blu-ray collection:54 Digital collection:373 iTunes collection:183 Prime collection:11 Blu-ray reviews: 149	Interesting that this movie is getting 4K in Germany but not here in the States. If I hear the 4K release of Detroit is good, I'll get it from there instead of buying the regular Blu-ray here in the States.

02-08-2018, 10:48 PM	#9
McCrutchy Contributor Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:East Coast, USA Home Theater Gallery:2 4K collection:1265 Blu-ray collection:6775 DVD collection:253 Blu-ray reviews: 5 Trading Score:17	The official link for the release is here: http://www.concorde-movie-lounge.de/...d133ac610c7a2c It looks like the disc should have German and English DTS-HD MA 5.1 tracks, plus a German: Dolby Digital 2.0 track and optional German and German SDH subtitles. It should also contain the same exact extras as the Fox Blu-ray, plus the German trailer.

02-09-2018, 03:09 PM	#16
McCrutchy Contributor Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:East Coast, USA Home Theater Gallery:2 4K collection:1265 Blu-ray collection:6775 DVD collection:253 Blu-ray reviews: 5 Trading Score:17	Unless the extras are also presented on the UHD disc, and authored in the proper 1080p24 format. Then you arguably wouldn't need the 1080p Blu-ray disc at all.

03-07-2018, 02:59 PM	#20
trevrox Special Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2012 Location:New Hampshire 4K collection:706 Blu-ray collection:1762 DVD collection:169 Trading Score:11	Anyone import this? How is it? Bluray is cheap at $14 right now... worth importing the 4K?

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