Why should I choose Blu-ray?

[davewolfs]

Originally Posted by MatrixS2000

Capacity is not the only problem...the more critical one is bandwidth. Blu Ray can have up to 48Mb/s for video and another 8Mb/s for audio. This allows it to handle the more difficult encodes.

As far as studios having intentions fo utilizing all available storage space - well that depends on the studio. The Blu Ray exclusives ones do - they use high bit rates encode. The neutrals don't because they do want to do 2 separate encodes...so they use the lowest common denominator - the HD DVD version.

Not sure if that means much.

Assuming that all BluRay DVD's have a 50GB capacity and are utilizing the maximum rate you have outlined (assuming it is correct). The longest movie that could that could fit on a BR disc would be 15 minutes which is clearly not the case.

48mb/s + 8mb/s = 56mb/s * 60 seconds = 3360mb/min

So again I ask, is it a know fact or assumption that studios are applying more compression to the video on HD DVD movies vs BluRay?

[Elessar]

I support both and have not regretted it yet. Mainly because Universal puts out the best movies IMO. Children of Men, The Jason Bourne movies, Big Lebowski just to name a few. Blu is awesome too though and if Universal ever went neutral I would have to cease my support of HD-DVD. It's all about getting the movies you want in HD.

[movies3]

Originally Posted by Elessar

I support both and have not regretted it yet. Mainly because Universal puts out the best movies IMO. Children of Men, The Jason Bourne movies, Big Lebowski just to name a few. Blu is awesome too though and if Universal ever went neutral I would have to cease my support of HD-DVD. It's all about getting the movies you want in HD.

i like some universal movies aswell, but to buy another player just to play them....i think not, to much money when bluray is winning.

Also look at it this way davewolfs HD dvd was out for 1 yr before bluray even came out. Now bluray has the same amount of movies out and they are winning the format war between the 2. And bluray hasnt even been out a yr.

Plus with 6 million ps3 sold now, and more more standalone players being sold i say this format war it over between the 2. The next battle will to be taken over DVD which will be awhile.

[MasterXeus]

davewolfs

http://blog.pixelperfectproductions.com/?p=54

Maybe this is why Target and BJ are selling Blu-ray players in there stores only.

As of June 28, 2007
Of the top 100 2007 (YTD) films, 47 are from Blu-Ray exclusive studios, 14 are HD DVD exclusive studios, 29 are dual-format studios and 10 are not supporting either format currently.

Looking back at 2006
Of the films, 53 were from Blu-Ray exclusive studios, 14 from HD DVD exclusive studios and 33 from dual-format studios. There were no films in the 2006 top 100 from studios that had not declared a format preference.

[BadCompany89]

Who signs up for a forum site just to be able to flame? Oh wait, the world is full of these pathetic people.

[The Don]

you never answered the question masterxeus asked..

"what movies do you like?"

you're saying there aren't any must haves on blu-ray...

then you're saying 80% of the movies out there aren't must-haves....

are you saying that only Universal titles are must haves?...

just wanting to know..

[MasterXeus]

Originally Posted by The Don

you never answered the question masterxeus asked..

"what movies do you like?"

you're saying there aren't any must haves on blu-ray...

then you're saying 80% of the movies out there aren't must-haves....

are you saying that only Universal titles are must haves?...

just wanting to know..

I'm glad someone else notice davewolfs didn't answer my question.

[MasterXeus]

Originally Posted by davewolfs

So again I ask, is it a know fact or assumption that studios are applying more compression to the video on HD DVD movies vs BluRay?

MatrixS2000 did answer your question the first time.

As far as studios having intentions fo utilizing all available storage space - well that depends on the studio.

[Elessar]

Children of Men would look damn good on a 50gb BD.

Oh well, a man can hope.

[Blu-Light]

This guy obviously has made up his mind. Not sure why he posts here asking these silly questions that sure seem alot like the typical HD-DUD troll posts perhaps disguised a tad bit better from the start. If they are truly not troll posts then I will add that you are out of your freakin mind if you are going to invest in a format that is about to bite the dust. i.e. HD-DUD. It's on it's way out, there is no way around it at this point in the game. Now if you want to help prolong and perhaps sustain the life of the most viable, most technically sophisticated HD disc format created to date then go out and buy a blu-ray player and stop with this HD-DUD nonsense.

[JTK]

Originally Posted by Blu-Light

This guy obviously has made up his mind. Not sure why he posts here asking these silly questions that sure seem alot like the typical HD-DUD troll posts perhaps disguised a tad bit better from the start. If they are truly not troll posts then I will add that you are out of your freakin mind if you are going to invest in a format that is about to bite the dust. i.e. HD-DUD. It's on it's way out, there is no way around it at this point in the game. Now if you want to help prolong and perhaps sustain the life of the most viable, most technically sophisticated HD disc format created to date then go out and buy a blu-ray player and stop with this HD-DUD nonsense.

Almost every weekend we get one of these. You can almost set your clock to it.

[Blu As Hell]

davewolfs...

Why you would sign up for a Blu-Ray forum and rave on about HD DVD, I can't figure out.

But it seems to me that you have made up your mind even with all the reasons you were given in this tread why Blu-Ray is the better buy. I say since you are an adult go ahead and buy your HD DVD player, but you won't get to enjoy POTC 3 or Spiderman3 in Hi Def. Now you will get Transformers, but we Blu-Ray owners will get all Three of them. I already know Disney, Sony and Paramount will blow the bitrates for them out of the water.


We'll see ya.

[Elessar]

to be fair though, Spiderman 3 was awful.

[BorrowedTime]

Originally Posted by Blu As Hell

davewolfs...

Why you would sign up for a Blu-Ray forum and rave on about HD DVD, I can't figure out.

But it seems to me that you have made up your mind even with all the reasons you were given in this tread why Blu-Ray is the better buy. I say since you are an adult go ahead and buy your HD DVD player, but you won't get to enjoy POTC 3 or Spiderman3 in Hi Def. Now you will get Transformers, but we Blu-Ray owners will get all Three of them. I already know Disney, Sony and Paramount will blow the bitrates for them out of the water.


We'll see ya.

Don't forget that Transformes on Blu will probably be superior to the HD-DVD version, as recent Paramount trends show them utilizing AVC and PCM encodes for picture and sound on their latest releases. Now, if only WB would follow suit...

[davewolfs]

Originally Posted by Blu As Hell

davewolfs...

Why you would sign up for a Blu-Ray forum and rave on about HD DVD, I can't figure out.

But it seems to me that you have made up your mind even with all the reasons you were given in this tread why Blu-Ray is the better buy. I say since you are an adult go ahead and buy your HD DVD player, but you won't get to enjoy POTC 3 or Spiderman3 in Hi Def. Now you will get Transformers, but we Blu-Ray owners will get all Three of them. I already know Disney, Sony and Paramount will blow the bitrates for them out of the water.


We'll see ya.

Who says I am "raving" about HD DVD. I simply brought up a few points.

[movies3]

Originally Posted by Elessar

to be fair though, Spiderman 3 was awful.

yea i didnt like it either, but he wont get cars or any other disney movie or star wars or any fox movie.
plus we have the simpsons movie, fantastic four 2, all spideys, harry potters, matrix all coming this fall/winter not to mention the ones already up on amazon for pre-order

Im not going to try to change him from HD dvd to bluray because he seems set on HD dvd which is fine. But when its all over said in done, hes gonna have alot of disc's to get rid of and money lost.

[davewolfs]

Originally Posted by The Don

you never answered the question masterxeus asked..

"what movies do you like?"

you're saying there aren't any must haves on blu-ray...

then you're saying 80% of the movies out there aren't must-haves....

are you saying that only Universal titles are must haves?...

just wanting to know..

Well it still all depends on what initial player I go with. But the initial titles that I was looking at are Planet Earth, Children of Men, 300, Blades of Glory and Heroes. The best of compilation looked kinda cool too.

Some movies that I would like to have that are not available are Casino Royale and POTC. I really couldn't care less for Spiderman.

[Smackos]

Ultimately if Content is King.. then HD DVD's the court Jester...you cannot ignore the sheer volume of titles from major studios that will not be available to HD DVD.

I'd also say that now it is being realised which way the format wars going and how much Blu-ray has been constrained by HD DVD the neutral studios are starting to cater now to what the formats capable of.. link

Also on the calculations of bandwidth you've got to consider that it's not a constant number that is put through the system and onto your screen.. whats the point of having 48mb maxed out when your fading to a dark screen or watching end credits for example. When the raw power is needed the player even buffers some of it to top out even that "maximum" rate when it's needed when a lot of visual info is on screen.

I USED to be a big fan of HD DVD but I could not ignore that it from both a consumer point of view and the studio's point of view Blu-ray is a better end product.

[movies3]

Originally Posted by davewolfs

Well it still all depends on what initial player I go with. But the initial titles that I was looking at are Planet Earth, Children of Men, 300, Blades of Glory and Heroes. The best of compilation looked kinda cool too.

Some movies that I would like to have that are not available are Casino Royale and POTC. I really couldn't care less for Spiderman.

theres is only 2 movies from that section you mention you cant get on bluray yet.. and thats children of men and heroes.

everything else you can get

[msallaq]

Originally Posted by davewolfs

I am completely new to HDTV so I figure I will play devils advocate

Here is my logic to jump on the HD DVD bandwagon until the format war is over.

1. There is no indication that HD DVD has plans to give up anytime soon, in my opinion the available HD DVD content is decent, there is nothing explicitly on Blu Ray that I MUST have.
2. The video quality is virtually on par, videophiles may say otherwise, but they are pretty damn close, perhaps in the future this will change but lets be realistic both formats are serving high quality content in comparison to standard DVD's.
3. There is no guarantee that current Blu Ray players will be capable of supporting the 1.1 spec. Which means a $500 investment could effectively turn into what I would deem an expensive paper weight.
4. For someone who is just entering the market and enjoys renting movies online, $230 is a minimal investment in comparison to the cost of a Blu Ray player.

These are just my thoughts after researching the topic. My largest concern is that there will be no true winner in either of these formats, so I am choosing to reduce my risk by going with the cheapest available player.

Dave

another hd dvd fan boy got nothing to do but to go to blu ray forum and start a argument.